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Jul 1, 2020 14:57:16   #
pendennis wrote:
You have a wrong premise. The number of diagnosed cases has no relationship to the number of deaths. Death rates are determined from the total number of exposures. Total exposure to the virus is 40x-50x the number of reported cases, anywhere from 80-120 million people. The death rate from Wuhan then becomes .127%, based on an infection number of 100 million.

The Wuhan virus doesn't kill anyone. Anyone who has died, has succumbed from a cardiovascular, pulmonary, renal, or other body system failure. The largest percentage of deaths is among those over 75, who frequently have compromised immune systems, or preexisting conditions. The smallest number of deaths is those under 25 is 159. If you want to say that Wuhan is an exacerbating factor, you'd be correct.

Dr. Fauci has been all over the map on this, from day one. Every press conference has been something different. Isolation, if anything has exacerbated exposure to Wuhan. Viruses don't do well in the outdoors and sunlight, and that's where folks should have been all along, not inside, spreading the virus to family, etc.

This pandemic has been politicized from the get go.
You have a wrong premise. The number of diagnosed... (show quote)



True dat! Cytokine storm syndrome Is responsible for over 50% of all deaths to date.

The fascist left continues to prove they either cannot read or are simple minded partisan hacks and trolls, relying on emotion as that is the best way to gin up the masses.....


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Jul 1, 2020 14:52:03   #
gorgehiker wrote:
A president who can't even wear a mask during a p******c wants to put all of the blame on China and his cult members believe him. That level of stupidity is amazing!


The level of stupidity of the cult f*****t progressives who think keeping social distance and only wearing a mask when not doing so (THAT is the current science) by any one person has either created or extended C***D is amazing!
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Jul 1, 2020 14:50:20   #
DukeTarHeel wrote:
Make things up much? You know my TV habits? Dabble in hyperbole?

What you have said is BS. You want to float your own misinformation.... why?


I watched every single one and took notes...... yes, F***i flopped a lot, yes it may have been due to new information, and yes you f*****ts should either call him a liar or quit calling the President one when he does the same.
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Jul 1, 2020 14:49:07   #
[quote=steve03][quote=Fotoartist]It's not necessary because only China could have prevented it.

Once China didn't even if F***i had said all the right things in a timely manner which he didn't, we still would have had a p******c.[/quote

Yes but the death rate would have been much lower. Trump disbanded the p******c response team, he lied about he C***d ** in this country ( remember when he claimed there was only 1 case in this country and later 15 soon to be one). not to mention the BS about the Hydroxychloroquine, Disinfectant, and ultraviolet light. It truly amazes me that you not believe men of science and doctors but will believe a reality TV host. No wonder this p******c is out of control.[/quote]


Your just pandering lies again.there was no disbanding of the p******c team, there was only one known case when he said that (the numbers were revised weeks and weeks later), you might want to read up on the studies by HCQ and ask yourself why thousands of doctors around the country were self-medications with it, And the remainder of your comments just showboat your absolute ignorance. Newsflash! UV k**ls C****-** in the air and on surfaces, given enough time, according to the University of Pennsylvania.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/c****av***s/article243802222.html#storylink=cpy
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Jul 1, 2020 14:45:12   #
FRENCHY wrote:
China was well aware of it.

Trump pisses them off when he stops partially their abuse of the USA. so, no need to scratch our heads, they did it INTENTIONALLY.




The f*****t progressive left and their incompetent leaders like Pelosi, Schumer, et.al. still not only won’t call China on the carpet for C***D, they continue to call those who do r****ts.

Why?

Clearly they are in the pocket of China....,possibly started with Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein’s 20 years as a Chinese spy enabler?????
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Jul 1, 2020 14:43:30   #
DennyT wrote:
Do you understand what “ right now “ means


Of course.....I just wish you f*****ts did.

If Trump said the exact same things F***i did you would add it to your “lie” list.

Oh, wait.....you f*****ts did! It is clear that Trump relied on data and advice from F***i, yet you and the other f*****ts continue to bring up comments from Fe rusty and call him a liar.

Simply out, you and the rest of your f*****t crowd are liars.
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Jul 1, 2020 14:41:45   #
DennyT wrote:
That was the world which is now at 500,000 after 6 months and no v*****e .


You’re either wrong or lying....the 2-3 million was the U.S. figure.
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Jul 1, 2020 14:41:03   #
steve03 wrote:
We're only 4 months into the p******c and at best 6 months to go including a 2nd wave. If we don't mask and use gloves we are sure to make it. By July 4th we will be at 130,000. It is sad because this is not necessary.




Really? Given our 10th amendment, our non-homogenity, our horrendous leadership in big cities, you think this was all avoidable?

Please share, and try to use dates and data instead of emotion,
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Jul 1, 2020 11:12:00   #
DennyT wrote:
Well said. I guess as situations change some here don’t allow advice to change based on the current situation but would rather find fault . That is stupid .


No, that’s an ignorant and/or partisan statement.

It’s your f*****t progressive sect that fixates on statements regardless of how many times they are eventually changed based on new information, so we just need to point it out when your arguments and statements fail.
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Jul 1, 2020 11:10:14   #
sb wrote:
Well - I think the number of deaths is 500,000 and still rising. So he is not wrong about that. F***i, by the way, is the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. That would pretty much make him the "top infectious disease expert in the nation". I have not heard ANY public health or infectious disease expert contradict anything he says. In the beginning of the crisis there was not enough PPE for health care providers and the public was running around buying up every N95 mask at Home Depot, for example. Those not at potential risk did not really need to wear a mask. Now we are pretty much all at risk, and we understand a lot more about the v***s than we did at the beginning - like the fact that you can be contagious without having symptoms. Sorry that this disagrees with all the "alternative facts" that FoxTV has been telling you.
Well - I think the number of deaths is 500,000 and... (show quote)


clearly you don’t watch FOX or you would understand the ignorance of your slam.
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Jul 1, 2020 11:09:34   #
Rose42 wrote:
He has. I can read and understand just fine. I’m not talking about your post. F***i has been contradictory.


Yes, he has......

Dr. Anthony F***i himself said on January 21, "This is not a major threat for the people of the United States. And this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about." Multiple media outlets, including CNN and MSNBC, gave similar commentary through early March.*

https://twitter.com/brithume/status/1246156119938080776
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Jul 1, 2020 11:05:59   #
steve03 wrote:
127,000 dead in four months is less deadly than feared? Thats more the the Vietnam and Korean War combined. What would it take for you to call this truly deadly?


Yes, it is less deadly then Feared as the original projections were in the 2,000,000 - 3,000,000 range.
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Jul 1, 2020 11:04:53   #
[quote=DennyT]Nice try but nonsoap
1. He did not say we “ we didn't need masks.” As you claim.
First you could listen to your video and hear that,

2. The full interview was “

“””@ LaPook, March 8: There’s a lot of confusion among people, and misinformation, surrounding face masks. Can you discuss that?

F***i: The masks are important for someone who’s infected to prevent them from infecting someone else… Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.

LaPook: You’re sure of it? Because people are listening really closely to this.

F***i: …There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.

LaPook: And can you get some schmutz, sort of staying inside there?

F***i: Of course, of course. But, when you think masks, you should think of health care providers needing them and people who are ill. The people who, when you look at the films of foreign countries and you see 85% of the people wearing masks — that’s fine, that’s fine. I’m not against it. If you want to do it, that’s fine.

LaPook: But it can lead to a shortage of masks?

F***i: Exactly, that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it.
“””

But of course you knew that since the YouTube video you tried to pawn off was only posted on you tube [u]today]/u] BY YOU. To fabricate your own back up.
You cherry picked a single phrase out of context to support you phoney lie .

Shame on you. From now on all will know you and what you are !

Oh I might add that was 20 March and at that time CDC recommendation was medical community were first in line for short supply of mask[/quote]


Just apologize....you were wrong.
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Jul 1, 2020 10:58:34   #
alexstolis wrote:
I do take action and am active in my community.

I also happen to be a member of this community and part of my responsibility is to not remain silent.

Ad hominem attacks don’t advance any agenda.


You mean unlike your attack??????
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Jul 1, 2020 10:56:59   #
alexstolis wrote:
It’s not really a very good parody. More on the junior high cafeteria joke spectrum.

What it does highlight is white privilege and lack of understanding and knowledge of history.

You are not necessarily responsible for your ignorance but you are responsible for doing something about it. It’s not about changing minds. It’s about being able to argue your point effectively and the ability to demonstrate insight.

This is an insult to your own intelligence.



White privilege is a r****t/bigoted comment on its face....you wear it well.


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