It's late and I'm not sure I even spelled the words correctly, but to finish tonight's research, I want to pose the question: What is the difference to ensure that a lab printing my photos gets its printer settings adjusted to how I calibrate my monitor? I'm only assuming that the X-rite Colormunki is an example of a colorimeter, and the X-rite i1Pro a spectrophotometer. (I also want to know if I should consider buying the X-rite i1Studio.) I use an Asus Vivobook laptop. Since the X-rite i1Pro is apparently older technology, though time-tested, I'm also concerned if it will work for the monitor of my recently purchased Asus.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Thanks again!

I have bookmarked this comment trail. Burkphoto, you've been very helpful. Your knowledge is an astonishing introduction to printing for me.

So once I get a SpyderPro or X-rite (I've checked datapro and an Adorama video that recommends X-rite thus far), it's PPA Competition Standard to which I make the adjustments...I'm also thinking it might be wise if I ask the lab up front what adjustments to choose. One of the comments mention that standards are the same pretty much across the board, but then again, if I ask, that might ensure things go well.

Thanks for everybody's help. Monitor calibration is new to me, and I'm going to go over recommendations here with my son, who is better with the technology by far than I am. Also, I'm surprised silver halide chromogenic process is good for only 20-40 years...are "wet processed color papers" the only sort of papers used chromogenically? Also, as an ancillary interest, I assume large gallery prints are all done by ink jets?

About the two bad prints, the proprietor, who did return my money, said he doesn't use an ink jet, but he didn't say what he does use. I gave him room to tell me if he could change settings or what have you. That didn't get very far. I had immediately driven back to discuss the prints with him, having discovered the problem at home. I hadn't begun yet begun to look into the printing process. I know something was amiss on his end, because I got 4 x 6 prints of the same 8 x 12 images, which were closer to what I had done in Lightroom, although even these prints were not quite right.

Thanks again and you've been very helpful.

I shoot RAW with a Nikon D7100 and D850, develop in Lightroom, and so far I've limited my images to the computer. I used to get prints made when I used 35mm and a Nikon D60, never had any complaints. Today, I got two 8 x 12's back from a local camera shop & couldn't recognize my own work, told he doesn't use inkjet. I then did cursory research on how printing is done, and my guess is that the local shop doesn't use silver halide, either. Do most online services use that? Can anyone lead me to good ones who will not make me feel my Lightroom work is in vain? Also, if anyone is interested in comparing halide vrs. inkjet, I want to hear.

Thinking of transferring Nikon D850 images, by the cable that came with the camera, to my computer. I notice online that a lot of devices work on 3.0. I don't notice any specified for 3.1. And I don't know if a device specified for 3.0 will work on 3.1. (Maybe the cable is 2.0? I do have a 2.0 port.) Also, to upload images by cable from the camera, do I simply plug the camera end through the specified camera port (I see that), the other end to the computer's USB port, and then turn on the camera...and the computer should respond with a message to click on for the upload? I began searching for an SD card reader. I found a nice-looking UGreen 3.0 for only $7.95 Amazon Prime, but I don't know if 3.0 will work...thanks.

I see. Missed page two here, at first. So you can offload the files. But if they have to return as zip files, does that change their status as either lossless compressed or uncompressed? Also, I'm not clear on that difference to begin with. If I'm shooting uncompressed on a D850, does anyone know how large I should expect files to be, and does it make a difference for the dynamic range of the jpgs I create, or what have you else?

All of you are very helpful. I had forgotten that One Drive still takes up hard drive space. The NEF files and jpgs arranged in folders would still be there and weighing on my RAM. It's also a big eye opener to be reminded that while using my D850, space will crowd very quickly. Jerryc41 is approaching 3T, and I can see this happening to me as well. Sooner than later. I burn all of my NEF files to discs. I'm thinking of eventually investing in M-discs and an external disc drive compatible with this new archive technology to store developed jpgs. I have only the 480GB ssd external at present, but will be purchasing more space. Thinking also of continuing with Carbonite. The 5GB of free One Drive space is all I will need to send jpgs to magazine editors. I still think it is possible I will find a use for the Publisher feature of Office 365, but the other side of that coin I thought of on the job today. By not having it, I'm going to work all the more single-minded at getting my book published commercially, which is what I really want to have happen. If that does fail, well, then I can punish myself by uninstalling Office 2019 and buying a subscription to Office 365, if indeed I find Publisher can help.

Also, if any of you know better about lap tops than I do, which is very likely, I bought an Asus 8 RAM, 128GB ssd drive, 1T hard drive, Ryzen 5 Processer. Quick. And we will advance RAM to 20 by removing 4 RAM and replacing that with a 16GB stick, my son and I. But Staples, Mitt Romney's store here in America, transferred my files from the old HP laptop with not enough punch to a Data or D-drive, because the tech couldn't get the 500GB or so onto the C-drive. Apparently, because that C-drive is the 128GB ssd. (I guess, need to look into this...) I was told the files I create hereon will go on the C-drive, and so I'm going to need to use externals. My big question is, aside from the annoyance of two extra clicks to access my pictures or documents, and clicks can become problematic at times as a computer ages, hopes that 20GB of RAM carries this one a ways, how do I get Lightroom, which isn't reinstalled yet, to import files from two drives? Or should I move all of my pictures out of D and onto externals, importing what files I need to work with from C?

Thanks again,

Bruce

A little more about myself and photography. (I was feeling mighty pressed to get some form of Microsoft Office on my new computer.) I began shooting at age 9. On a Kodak Instamatic, believe was the name. Felt such a rush of excitement. At 16, I bought a Pentax K-1000. I owned four of those in total for many years, three of them stolen. I have shots framed on my walls. Even two or three shots framed I took with throw-away cameras, during the interim between my third and fourth K-1000, when I couldn't afford another K-1000 just yet. Moved on to Nikon D60. Strapped to my neck, I took a headlong spill with it into the Salmon River, NY. Moved on to Nikon D7100. After three years, I was able to afford Nikon D850, but after almost exactly a year, I got tipped out of a kayak with that strapped to my neck--unfortunately into salt water. My second Nikon D850--refurbished--is currently in warranty repair. Mostly, I shoot outdoors. Landscape, waterscape, close-up nature shots, fish photos. I do like city-scapes when I get the chance. I don't exclude subjects, I just absorb most of my interest in outdoor photography. Very ambitious. But I try to stay realistic about whatever talent I have. Not all that tech-savvy, no, but eager to learn what I can. I have a feel for composition. It's like prayer called upon in the moment and answered when I look at the shot.

Hi, I'm new to the Ugly Hedgehog and excited to learn important new information. I'm working on a new operating system with some kick to handle Nikon D850 files, and I'm trying to back my feeling that it is better to invest in a Microsoft Office Personal 365 account, rather than buy a key for a Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 set-up. I can use the 5GB free One Drive for developed jpgs I send to magazine editors. I freelance. (I can always move images out of One Drive and back to folders and back to my 480GB external drive, also, to keep that total within 5GB.) But I'm thinking, with 1T One Drive storage using 365, my storage options might be significantly improved. Not to mention, as an aside, that I'm almost finished a hybrid memoir/how-to book on trout fishing, and finding an agent who will take any interest in me will be difficult, if not a failure, don't know. 365 comes with Publisher, and self-publishing is no longer vanity. So I'm also wondering if anyone here on Hedgehog knows of any synergy between Publisher and the improved functionality of One Drive through 365. I would want to illustrate my book. Finally, does One Drive support D850 RAW. Want to spell this out, just in case. Thanks for any help you may offer.