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Nov 23, 2019 07:05:23   #
I am fed up with this silly game ! ..........Religious Fundamentalists appear to be pre - programmed like a child's computer..............

Press any key and " God is the Answer "..........But sincerely ........." have a nice Christmas "......... but for God's sake try reading some

different books and widen your narrow horizons............Over and Out...........Chippy 65
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Nov 22, 2019 17:34:34   #
cwp3420 wrote:
And yet you still won’t answer my question. Where’s your science that you base your eternity on, chippy, old boy?


Everywhere you look and listen, Every library, Natural History Museum, TV programs, Scientific American, New Scientist even some newspaper articles.

take the blinkers off your eyes and your fingers out of your ears......the overwhelming evidence is all around you and you make yourselves look

" Canute Like" in your ridiculous contortions to avoid the obvious conclusion that we live on an evolving world, shared with evolving species.
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Nov 22, 2019 17:24:40   #
LWW wrote:
Irrelevant to the discussion at hand.


How can that be????...........first element in this, by now, rather boring discussion
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Nov 22, 2019 17:22:58   #
Architect1776 wrote:
Where is the science?
And you think that God who is infinitely more intelligent than the entire scientific community can not use science to make his creations?
Just because mankind cannot figure it out and guesses as to what happened etc. does not make them smarter than God.
Today's 15 year old would seem like a God to society 500 years ago with our feeble toys. The drones, aircraft cell phones etc. Would seem like magic to that society.
What makes you so smart that you think that you have all the answers when 90% of science is a guess.
Look at g****l w*****g h**x as an excellent example.
Where is the science? br And you think that God wh... (show quote)


People from your mindset would have them chained to a post and incinerated as " Witches " 500 years ago.,

James 6 of Scotland, later James 1 of England, in addition to re-writing the Holy Bible wrote a fearsome treatise on Demonology and Witchcraft,

resulting in, if my memory serves me correctly in the " Salem Witch Trials" and similar shameful events here in Britain
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Nov 22, 2019 12:31:56   #
COLUMBUS, Ohio (WKRC) - Ohio lawmakers are weighing in on how public schools can teach things like evolution.

The Ohio House on Wednesday passed the "Student Religious Liberties Act." Under the law, students can't be penalized if their work is scientifically wrong as long as the reasoning is because of their religious beliefs.


Instead, students are graded on substance and relevance.

Every Republican in the House supported the bill. It now moves to the Republican-controlled Senate.

How does this benefit the students and their education ? You cant tell them that they are wrong ?

Further education se******n, Employment potential to be assessed by " This student cannot be wrong.....look how well he has memorized the Bible "
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Nov 22, 2019 09:20:27   #
I did as you suggested and asked Google for a definition of " Supernatural " .........it came back to me.........and I quote......!!

" Unable to be explained by science or the laws of Nature : of, relating to, or seeming to come from magic, a god etc "


That seems to also fit quite closely to a definition of "Superstition"
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Nov 22, 2019 09:01:25   #
LWW wrote:
Got it ... you believe yourself to be a bot.

Now, you obviously have a stiffie towards the Christian faith. Thats your right, just have the testicular/ovarian fortitude to admit it.

Next, the universe probably isn't 14,000,000,000 years old and it probably isn't 6,000 years old either ... and it doesn't matter.

The issue is whether the universe is one of determinism or one of free will.

You actually have science on your side to a point as science in many ways dictates that the universe is a determinist one as the neutrinos passing through both of us were set in motion at the moment of Creation. Back to us all being bots as free will is wholly incompatible with a determinist universe.

The alternative ... and science is about to slay the determinist myth.

Quantum theory dictates that there are always two or more possible outcomes ... no determinism ... and that actions/choices and/or observations made by consciousness are what determines the outcomes and causes the reality to solidify.

Taking that to it's logical conclusion, at the moment of creation the universe both did and didn't exist until an action/choice/observation by intelligence occurred.

This demonstrates that on the other side of the singularity lies something and that something cannot possibly have been a part of this universe as time/space/energy/matter did not yet exist.

Please look up the definition of supernatural, and the BB fits it.

Now, consciousness is obviously the fly in the ointment of determinism.

We see meteors, planets, galaxies, comets all move with incredible precision yet I haven't decided if I want another cup of coffee.

The meteors, planets, galaxies, comets cannot change their paths of their own free will because they have none. I can, because I have free will.

Now, what exempted me from determinism? What consciousness observed the BB?

Those are the philosophical questions that hang on faith because, as Hawking said, what lies on the other side of the singularity is both unknown and unknowable to science.

That something lies beyond it that caused the BB is undeniable, except by fools.
Got it ... you believe yourself to be a bot. br b... (show quote)



What a load of codswallop and waffle....I put my cards on the table..............you went and played at another game altogether.
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Nov 22, 2019 07:40:58   #
great place with good memories in the middle of "god's own county"
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Nov 22, 2019 07:35:16   #
BigWahoo wrote:
"The cases against Mr. Netanyahu involve allegations of giving or offering lucrative official favors to several media tycoons in exchange for favorable news coverage or gifts worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. "


Can you EVER trust ANY politician ??
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Nov 22, 2019 07:29:45   #
Quick , honest question,with an honest response ?! ...........Compare and contrast Evolution and Creationism..........Cards on the table !!

As a science based evolutionist I believe that the "Big Bang" took place approx 14 billion years ago, and that from these beginnings the earth formed

approx 4.5 billion years ago, after a long period of cooling life began to evolve with fragmentary evidence left in the geological record.

Creationism and the story of Genesis and the Garden of Eden, which is a lovely story, took place when? How many years ago? How old does that make our Earth?
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Nov 21, 2019 16:26:19   #
LWW wrote:
Impossible, within your stated beliefs anyway.

By your own words, your belief system dictates that the decision that you came to ...this conclusion was set in place at the moment of creation.

By this belief, everything was put in motion irrevocably by the Big Bang ... therefor you had no free will to come to any conclusion of your own actions.

You, therefor, admit to being a bot with no free will at all.


I do not follow your argument, my brain belongs to me, I am not told what to think, If I choose to not believe in a philosophy that demands blind faith

I can make that decision for myself. I can also change my mind if the evidence is challenged.

Looking through the pages of history and science how can it be that "God Given" human intelligence has got it so very wrong and that blind indoctrination

can be so correct?
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Nov 21, 2019 12:26:18   #
LWW wrote:
How did you arrive at this conclusion?


I used my brain, I read widely, I rejected the force fed faith based fairy stories. Look at the evidence round you.

the "Big Bang" theory of creation, while not complete in all the evolutionary stages of development is a very convincing set of evidences

and is a beautiful, utterly convincing series of observations that satisfy my question " where did I come from "?
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Nov 21, 2019 09:16:54   #
Architect1776 wrote:
Why has evolution stopped?


What a stupid,stupid question ! Evolution takes place very very slowly. Think about the intertwined historical development of mankind and his

influence on his companion dog, evolved from the wolf,.Look at the different breeds of dog, sizes ,shapes, breeds. Evolution in action over the

last few hundred years.Look at the changes wrought by man on domesticated animals and crops............Evolution in action.
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Nov 21, 2019 09:07:59   #
soba1 wrote:
My wife told me about a conversation she had with a hospice nurse who attended to people
during their last moments on this earth. Christians had more peace as they t***sitioned out
of here. Non Christians were not peaceful at all fearful of what awaited them on the other side.
It's their eternity, and eternity is forever. I like the best odds, if we are all changed to
benevolent loving beings at the end great. If there is reincarnation and we get another
chance all the better. But if not and there is eternal torment for those who chose
not to follow the Lord Jesus Christ then at least I have a good chance of landing on the right side.
My wife told me about a conversation she had with ... (show quote)


I envy people, who at the time of their death, can embrace their faith to provide solace.

I personally believe, that like all the other animals on Earth I will go out like a fused light bulb, but that if I have been

a half-decent individual there is a chance that I will be immortalized in a few people's memories.
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Nov 21, 2019 09:00:50   #


Yes, fits well with the geological evidence, terrible event enshrined in folk lore, may even have been naughty people !

BUT you cannot attribute it to a God training the crosshairs of retribution and sending a meteorite to do his work, look at the surface of the Moon

to see all the impact craters.........meteor strikes are quite common events.
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