I have noticed that you do a lot of sincere "giving back" to the UHH members. And I pictured you having a large high tech personal lab. Oops. Your White Paper changed that mind's eye picture. But your words define a very knowledgeable career. Never have I doubted your statements.

Without the cataract surgery I probably wouldn't be able to see much. I also got the toric lenses, but I still wear glasses for close vision. Legally I can drive without glasses and often do. I also have dry eyes. Yes, that's fun, especially when I forget to take drops with me. I have already had that film zapped off of one lens. Very simple and very quick. Have somebody drive you because they're going to dilate you. For me that usually means I'll have a headache the rest of the day. Sitting at my computer, I have to close the curtains not to be blinded in one eye. To make it more fun, like my older sister, I have advanced to needing a refractive lens to keep from seeing double. That thing of not needing my glasses to drive kinda went bye bye. And I have gotten the joy of ocular migraines. I keep closer tabs on Sis cause I seem to be following her lead. I just hope I don't get her headaches.

So any time you want to talk eyes n getting old in general send a PM.

Bill

My head hurts. LOL.

Maybe part of my confusion has come from my XSi. I set it to record raw. But when I downloaded files to my computer, some were tagged CR2, others were tagged jpeg. CR2 is a raw file, correct?

Then I got an RP. Again, I set it to record raw. When I downloaded into my computer I get two files, a CR3 displaying no image and another file showing the image. Both show the same image number.

So, are you saying that setting the white balance in camera will negate the in camera raw file and change it to a jpeg?

The rest of your information about post processing I pretty well followed.

And I thought I was getting a handle on this raw thing. I have my XSi set to record raw. But when I downloaded into my computer, some files were tagged CR2, others were tagged JEPG. Do you know why? I don't.

Thank you. I did not know that shooting and saving are considered to be a single act. I had been corrected years ago that shooting jpeg was a form of in camera post processing. So that has probably influenced my thinking.

Sorry, I was not trying to make mountains.

I thought about going PM, but thought maybe someone else might learn from my mistakes.

Please correct me if I am wrong. To shoot raw, I can set shutter speed and aperture, but nothing else. Setting anything else like ISO or white balance puts me in jpeg. Correct?

User ID hot me straighten out on "both". So you can take my vote out of the survey.

No, because I still don't understand how some terms are used or, evidently, what they mean to most of you.

Yes, I did "interupt it another way", because untill an hour ago. my interpretation was different. Now I know.

Oops. I'm going to quit making short responses. That always seems to turn out badly.

Please help me understand. So many photography terms seem to be used in different ways.

In the words of Obi-Wan Kenobi, "from a certain point of view", all digital cameras shoot in RAW or Raw or raw (whatever is correct), because that is what the sensor sees. What the camera's processor does with that information that it sends to the recording medium determines if it is recorded as RAW or JEPG high or low, or BOTH.

Maybe I'm confused.

The original question is, what do you shoot?

I am aware that some cameras can be set up to save RAW on one card and Jpeg on a second card. It is my understanding that some can be set up to save both RAW and Jpeg on the same card. But this is saving the file to the SD card, not shooting.

Depending on what camera I'm using; RAW is not an option for the SX710HS. Otherwise I try to shoot in RAW. At least I have tried to set things up that way. What my XSi and RP actually save to the SD card sometimes surprises me.

Which brings me to this: I have asked the following question before because I have not found a clear explanation, and I have not received an answer from anyone on UHH. Is there a specific way, or group of settings to use, to shoot RAW?

Does setting ISO, shutter speed, aperture, and anything else negate RAW?

So, what do I shoot? With one camera only JEPG. With another camera , RAW, I think. So to answer the posted question, BOTH.

Or is my logic flawed?

I'm Trying to learn.

Your original post did not specify what "BOTH" means.

Both

No, no nerve touched. I assumed,.., and made.... Well that's never a good thing to do.

I got about half way through your white paper before my eyelids dropped. Your knowledge of all aspects of photography is impressive, while your equipment is quite humble. I've been amazed at your constructs. But my knowledge of the technical aspects of photography are way below yours. You've spent your lifetime in this pursuit. For me it's just one of many hobbies. I'm not sure I could build and make my own gadgets that I would happy with as you have. I will probably stay in my comfort level. But I do admire your hard earned knowledge, your willingness to help and teach those of us in need. You go to great lengths to provide understandable explanations, and I appreciate that.

Sometimes I attempt to give a short version of my thoughts, and that always seems to backfire. I think it did again.

No had feelings on my end. I hope I did not cause any on your end.

On the subject of cataracts. I'm not happy that you are having problems. I'm just happy to know that I am not alone. I went for the corrective implants. The doctor told me after it was all said and done that my left eye was lazy. Odd, it never was before. As I move my head around, I find spots in my glasses that are sharper that others. Some lights (LEDs) drive my eyes crazy. Bright sun was hard to deal with, now it's overcast days. Two years and I still wear the sun glasses they gave me. Any thing sound familiar? I'm considering going back to ground glass lenses. Yes, they're heavier, but these plastic ones are driving me crazy. And after 33 years of teaching school, it's gonna be a short drive.

Thanx and enjoy what you can.

My Dad was born in 1910 and my Mother in 1911. I have often thought what a wonderful time to have lived. Even thought there were a few cars traversing the dirt roads(?), most people were getting around by horse and buggy or steam powered trains. Yet they lived to see a man land on the moon. Dad even talked about reserving a flight to the edge of space. I can't help but wonder what he would be doing today with a laptop and smart phone and photos from Hubble and the new improved telescopes.

You are assuming I have a 4K monitor.
No, All I have is the 1080P monitor on my 17" laptop. Oh, I could hook it up to my 60" big screen, but that too is a 1080P. It would be nice to have all your equipment, I do not. And I have no real desire to acquire it. I'm not complaining because I do not nor complaining because you do, I'm just stating facts. Maybe I could come to your house and use yours. LOL No that's not going to happen either. I am not a pixel peeper. While I have no doubt that you have an excellent setup, I am sure that I will find a way suitable to my ways and means.

(I also have Borg implants from my cataract surgeries. My vision is not what it was in 2019. It does not help that the people making eyeglasses seem to think that everyone must wear blended glasses. I did quite fine wearing executive cut tri-focals. I really don't care what people think if they see lines in my lenses. At least I could see them. Ok. Rant over.)

I consider you to be a well educated ad trained professional photographer. And while you are well of my league, I still try to read and learn from your posts. Thanx for everything and what I can learn.

These old photos from 2 and three generations back are all at exist. It's either deal with what you have or have nothing. On the other hand, the photos I have taken will have some that are not so good. My standard practice is to scan, look at them on the computer, then decide wether or not to keep.

I will look into that when the time comes. Thanx.

OK. You just addressed a concern I have wondered about. The old odd sized negative that I scanned directly on the glass turned out sharp. But I have wondered what the thickness of the plastic holder (and the curl in slides and strips) would do to focus. Now to learn about "Newton's Rings".