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Jan 19, 2020 02:26:25   #
.[/quote Can math explain why Pat Boone sounds idiotic while singing "Respect" when compared to Aretha Franklin? [/quote]

Simple. Lack of soul.
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Jan 19, 2020 02:25:02   #
rfmaude41 wrote:
Rhythm can also be based on FIVE, SEVEN, ELEVEN, (or any PRIME NUMBER), etc..

Hint: think of some of the pieces that were written (and played) by Brubeck and his groups, as well as others.


It would be more accurate to say were written by Brubeck and members of his group.
for example, Take Five was written by Paul Desmond, the alto player in the group.
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Jan 19, 2020 02:22:56   #
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I have played pieces on 8 track and Cassette in stereo...šŸ˜Ž


This put a smile on my face. I once knew a guy that ran the duplicating operation for early 8 track tape. It was done in an attic over the LearJet factory.
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Jan 19, 2020 02:18:17   #
wdross wrote:
There are pros that own their cameras and are not willing to risk them for certain risky shooting and business situations. I would seriously doubt that there is a pro that does not actually own a camera and is still a pro - although it would be possible. I have heard of many National Geographic photographers that will use National Geographic's cameras rather than risk their own. Renting just changes the name and cost of the business handing out the camera.


The ones I heard about were fashion and commercial shooters, doing things like magazine ads. The gear rental was billed to the client, along with other costs like film and processing, seamless, etc. Of course these were guys with absolutely top reputations where minor expense accounts were not questioned. So for the photographers, it made economic sense. But of course NYC was at that time ass deep in rental houses.

But I remember when I was working for the commercial studio we billed film and processing at a minimum of $20 a roll.
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Jan 18, 2020 17:42:22   #
chasgroh wrote:
...renting works! I've rented a large lens transitioning from west to east...price was OK considering what I was spending on the trip, so all is good. Now I own that lens and my carry-on IS that lens hooked to my body in a Tenba bag that fits in the overhead. Yes, I have to check a bag...dammit. But my 'puter bag fits under the seat and contains lots of odds and ends...but I guess my end-point is that I will spend the dough to get the equipment I need to do the job *to* the job (now, that "job" just might be a vacation trip, but I still want my gear!).
...renting works! I've rented a large lens transi... (show quote)


has anyone else heard the stories about NYC pros that own NO cameras or lenses? People you've all heard of. They get a job and go to one of NYC's many rental houses, grab what is needed and return the next day.
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Jan 18, 2020 16:56:03   #
Louderwo wrote:
Iā€™m 81, is this something I should be concerned about? So far I have never thought about it.


If you were 18 I would still say, "fuggaboutit"
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Jan 18, 2020 16:54:35   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Another thought: many of us would welcome discussion and "share" topics on the art of photography, the importance of light and any non-technical aspects. We do these kinds of threads occasionally in other sections of UHH, but main discussion has not had very many in several years.

You've only created one topic in three years of membership. I hope you will consider being more active in 2020 šŸ¤—


Time is a precious commodity for me.
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Jan 18, 2020 12:45:06   #
I'm having a problem with this thread, and I'm concerned about Linda. These sort of discussions turn our hobby or vocation from one of creating art to a Chines restaurant menu of one from Column A and one from column B.
We are getting close to the peril of falling off a cliff due to a wealth of rules.
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Jan 18, 2020 12:34:48   #
DirtFarmer wrote:
It does work the other way, in my experience. I hold a degree in Physics, and pretty much all the people I know who are in science fields heavy on the mathematics are, if not proficient, at least very interested in music.


In my experience, not the case. I will mention but not identify the people involved in this in order to not defame the dead, but I had as a personal friend a very prominent jazz pianist. We both knew a tenor sax player who as the big bands faded, took a job as an engineer at a S.California airplane factory, and I heard many colleagues demean him. And believe me, these guys were at a level where no jealousy was involved.
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Jan 18, 2020 12:28:07   #
Robert1 wrote:
You may have as many degrees in music as your intellect allows you, but make no mistake, music is math; photography is math; actually your body, mine, the whole universe is math. You may not see it, but it is. There's no denying, or room to wiggle here.

Even the chaos at the upmost subatomic levels follows physical and mathematical laws that although not consciously perceived by humans it is there in the form of a harmony that it is somewhat cognitively felt by all living beings.

So, in another words, just because you are not able to visualize the math in music, it doesn't means that it is not. Just like gravity, you don't see it but it's there and you can experience it's effects.
You may have as many degrees in music as your inte... (show quote)


So says a math person. I'm happy to look at you living in your bubble. As to things on a "upmost" ( is that a math word?) subatomic levels, as long as a mushroom cloud isn't involved, I don't really care what laws are followed. And there is wiggle room in all of life, even though some people don't all that.

As I said, math people can't admit there is a world outside theirs.
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Jan 18, 2020 02:26:31   #
I hold a bachelor's degree in music, and I've never been worth a damn at math. I've heard that music is math crap all my life, and everyone that says it, is someone that has taken naturally to math. None of us that had to work to keep our heads above water in math could never see how it's related.

It's been my experience that the people who see the comparison are very confined and are never very "musical."
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Jan 18, 2020 02:16:12   #
selmslie wrote:
That's an incredible mix of wrong and right ideas. It must have been way past your bedtime.


I believe there are conflicting statements.
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Jan 17, 2020 18:38:26   #
pesfls wrote:
This is educational but my head is slowly starting to spin. While I grasp that f stops are in a ratio to focal length, is that why I can see differences in behaviors of lenses of different focal lengths when using the same f stop number? In other words I tend to use larger aperatures on very short lenses compared to somewhat longer ones to get the results I want. Am I getting it in regards to my observations of my images?


Since I don't know what are the differences you see, you have rendered me mute.
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Jan 17, 2020 18:35:43   #
Harry13 wrote:
I dunno! I've never calibrated a monitor or used a profile. My Canon Pro-100 just keeps spitting out prints that look just like what my memory tells me they should. I have an in my 30s print on my wall from a pic I took in Sonoma many years ago: beach sand, bluffs and ocean. To me it looks just as I remember it. What gives? I just scanned the pic into my Dell computer from a slide from my Nikon (with my Canon FS4000US) and printed it on my Pro-100. No fuss, no muss, no agonizing. Simple as falling off a log! And everyone who sees that print says it's beautiful. I even like it mydamnself, that's why I put it where I can see it every day. And as I said, my memory tells me that it's almost perfect and I suspect that's because my memory ain't perfect anymore - or even as good as it was 50 years ago when I took that pic in my mid - 30s! Harry
I dunno! I've never calibrated a monitor or used... (show quote)


Harry, that's impressive. You should go buy a lottery ticket.
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Jan 17, 2020 16:19:39   #
I think if you are traveling to shoot iconic locations, you better be a really talented photographer so as not to be dissapointed. Do you want to die with this in your obit," he was a photographer that took competent photos of the same things that many others shot" or would you like "He was a photographer that discovered many iconic locations?"
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