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Apr 24, 2019 11:13:48   #
I assume you see yourself as a Christian God-fearing man who knows and understands the Bible in its truest form. However, you spend your time here criticizing a minister and her husband, and if you knew that my daughter became a minister of a country church a couple of weeks ago you would be criticizing her too.
And it takes a special kind of stupid to do that.
I don't stand for people who criticize my family, or a servant of God. So get lost.
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Apr 24, 2019 11:02:30   #
She loves God and loves others, whereas you are judgmental of others. I will take what's in her heart over what's in your heart any day.
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Apr 24, 2019 10:02:45   #
I have seen the changes in peoples lives that she helps bring about as their pastor. I see a woman who is in love with God, and is looking forward to working on a Doctorate because she thinks this will help her bring people closer to God. She even leads a mission trip to Mexico every year to build a house for a family, and when they are done building each day, she takes a couple of people with her to share the gospel with the folks who live there.
You can do all the exegesis you want, and you can argue all you want about what the bible says and who understands it correctly. But in the parable of the sheep and goats there were no discussions about the scripture, the only thing that mattered is what people did or did not do for others in need. And she is doing it.
As some cooks say, the proof is in the pudding.
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Apr 24, 2019 09:42:13   #
rpavich wrote:
Sorry, wrong again.

Not only did you not get what I said, you seem to know very little about what the bible says on this subject. I'm sure your wife is sincere, she means well but if she's at all concerned about truth then she'll get her truth from God's OBjective word and not her SUBjective feelings about what she does or doesn't want or "feels led" to do or not do.

This is precisely why God's word is the standard and not feelings and emotions.


Should I defer to you, the apparent the all-knowing self-righteous one, who apparently feels like he can limit what God wants to do?
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Apr 24, 2019 09:34:17   #
rpavich wrote:
No she doesn't.

PS: Getting your wife to do something isn't sexist, it's normal. God set up the household hierarchy, the husband is the head of the household because Jesus is the head of the church. The picture of the husband and wife team mirror Jesus and the church. (That's in the bible by the way).


Right, I am the head of my household, not the church. And also correct, Jesus is the head of the church. As the head of the church my wife correctly depends on the Holy Spirit to lead her in ministry, and not me.
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Apr 24, 2019 09:30:29   #
rpavich wrote:
All of which illustrates your woeful lack of knowledge on this subject.

So now that we've established that you don't know anything about the translation and transmission of the bible, don't bother to say anything further about it...you are speaking from a place of ignorance.

I've done a LOT of studying in this area and have no issues with many translations; 99% are fine, some better than others but in no way does that mean that no version can be correct.

I'd discuss any specifics about the certain translation choices but since you don't actually know anything about it, it would be a waste of time.
All of which illustrates your woeful lack of knowl... (show quote)


What I hear is a lot of self-righteousness and judgementalism of others because they don't believe the same as you do.
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Apr 23, 2019 22:47:35   #
LoStrunzo wrote:
Thank you for your service.


Thank You
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Apr 23, 2019 22:06:52   #
KTJohnson wrote:
You're probably referring to Matthew 7:1 where it says, "Do not judge lest you be judged".

This passage has erroneously been used to suggest that believers should never evaluate or criticize anyone for anything. Today, people hate absolutes, especially theological and moral absolutes, and such simplistic interpretation provides a convenient escape from confrontation. People in modern society, including many professing Christians, tend to resist dogmatism and strong convictions about right and wrong. Folks prefer to speak of an all-inclusive love, compromise, ecumenism, and unity.

This passage nor any other part of Scripture does not teach that we are never to evaluate, criticize, or condemn the actions or teachings of another person.

If this part of the greatest sermon by our Lord teaches anything, it teaches His followers to be discerning and perceptive in what they believe and in what they do. They must make every effort to judge between truth and falsehood, between the internal and the external, between reality and sham, between true righteousness and false righteousness, in short, between God's ways and all other ways.

In the context of this sermon, what Jesus here forbids is self-righteous, officious, hasty, unmerciful, prejudiced, and unwarranted condemnation based on human standards and human understanding.

In particular, that's what the Pharisees were doing.


If you want to get a better understanding of this whole "judgment thing", maybe you could get your Pastor/wife to teach and preach on it. However, to get it right it would require actual study of God's Word.
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I think you have a lot of head knowledge that determines how you relate to God and live out your religious life. My wife has head knowledge too. A BA in Bible, a BA in Business Administration, a Master of Divinity degree, and will begin working on a Doctorate in Worship later this year. But what motivates her is her intimate relationship with God. It's a matter of the heart with her.

Me get my wife to do something? Quit being sexist. She has the Holy Spirit who leads her in ministry.
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Apr 23, 2019 19:28:07   #
We stood up to the wannabe at the last e******n
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Apr 23, 2019 17:28:32   #
rpavich wrote:
If that’s your response the that’s pretty telling about your woefully bad understanding of scripture


And I guess your bad understanding of what the bible says about judging others
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Apr 23, 2019 16:48:10   #
KTJohnson wrote:
1 Timothy 3:2 "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife ..." That word "bishop" refers to overseer/elder/pastor.

Those are just two of the requirements, God's requirements, not mine.

It's kind of hard for a woman to be the husband of one wife. Of course, in our current, sinful, perverted culture, most folks pay no attention to God's Word or His instructions anymore.


I suppose since we have women bishops now, if Paul were writing about them today he would write that "A bishop must be blameless then, the wife of one husband."
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Apr 23, 2019 16:29:19   #
rpavich wrote:
Nothing.
What's not biblical is having a woman be a pastor. I'm sure this isn't the first time you've heard this...right?


Yeah, but it wasn't biblical for men to show their ankles in public, but you probably know unbiblical men who wear shorts and sandals and who attend church right? Maybe even your pastor too?
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Apr 23, 2019 14:29:52   #
buckwheat wrote:
My pastor had an interesting trip to the podium. After discharge from the Army Rangers, he went into law enforcement, eventually ending up with the DEA. There he spent 10 years in Columbia as an agent, and one year in New York undercover with the Mafia. After 20 years he retired, became sheriff in an Arizona county. At one point he had a heart attack and died, had a near death experience and came back. That persuaded him to go into the ministry. He still carries, even on Sunday. When it's time to preach, he bounds up onto the stage like a 20 year old. He's over 80 years old, with no sign of slowing down.
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You must live in la-la land
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Apr 23, 2019 14:29:17   #
rpavich wrote:
A female pastor?

Certainly not biblical.

My pastor is a man...so he's at least biblical in that regard. Beyond that he's very faithful to the text of scripture so I'm thankful for him.


What's not biblical about preaching the gospel?
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Apr 22, 2019 23:46:54   #
PixelStan77 wrote:
Where are you located?


Missouri
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