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Sep 18, 2011 14:49:01   #
Imageme wrote:
Your reflection photos are beautiful. You obviously know when to show up to shoot because the water looks like glass! The mirror effect is perfect. If I may, there are a few things I would fix. In several of the photos, the shadow areas have lost all detail. They may be a little underexposed. In the first shot, I would have used a wider aperture to give dimension and put the focus solidly on the reflection. I like the composition in the second photo, but probably would have used a smaller aperture as the trees in the background appear soft. I like the idea your going for in the 3rd shot, my eye just wants a bit more of the shoreline in the upper right hand corner. 4th shot is beautiful on top! Again the detail is missing in the bottom portion. Color balance is better on this one. Has a warmer feel. In your last shot, the horizon is a little off. But the detail is better in the shadowed area. Could still be brought out a bit. Okay, now you critique this critique! LOL! I'm new to it.
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You're right on with everything you said. Not defending but explaining, this was as much an exercise in shooting my "new" camera and my first roll of Velvia 50 slide film. As I became more familiar with the somewhat narrow latitude of the film, I did improve with the wide contrast a little. Thanks. You did very well with the critique.
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Sep 18, 2011 14:44:13   #
photocat wrote:
One reason why far off places seem more interested. We pay little attention to what we know. It is just there and it becomes just part of background noise.

Interesting assignment. Take 100 images in your bathroom, can't go outside the door.

Or walk from your doorway to the sidewalk and try that.


You're right - it's that "new and different" thing for us that excites us and renews our vigor and interest.
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Sep 18, 2011 14:35:59   #
Francis M wrote:
Flowers look good. Maybe could have had a bigger depth of field on the first iris so more of it would be in focus, but it's all good. 8-)
Try stopping down more with a longer shutter


Thanks Francis. I was sitting at the dining room table, had just cleaned my lens, looked up and saw the solitary iris in a vase on the table in front of me, backlit by the light coming through the sheer peach colored draps, raised my camera and took one shot, haphazardly and thought it had SOME merit, and you're sure right, I should have at least bracketed if I wasn't going to pay closer attention. I'd been having some spots on some shots so I was trying to determine if it was the lens or the sensor. I already had some extension tubes onboard for something else I was doing. This is one of those "not set up almost good serendipitous shots." I'll do better next time and thanks again.
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Sep 18, 2011 14:25:10   #
DB wrote:
you two have some great photos.. I love the "Cool Willow" the best gessman. I also like the edits tilde531 did on the bridge. I agree it would make great notepaper. I also find that many snow pictures I take (be it very few in Tennessee) turn out almost black and white in appearance..... and tilde531 I very much enjoy your "spark" and wit.


Thanks DB. I'm from Arkansas, maybe you've seen where I've said before, on about the same latitude as Memphis and subject to much the same kind of weather so I'm not overly familiar with snow myself, that is until moving to Colorado. Still, snow in Denver is not nearly as predominate an issue as one might believe, not that it doesn't happen. Still, Denver has actually only had snow falling on Christmas Day 7 times out of the last century. I try not to purposely go looking for it except when I have camera in hand. Just a quick tidbit - our worst snows come from the east when a comma system gets stuck over Albuquerque pulling moisture up off the "Baja" and/or "Gulf." We get very little from the west, as one might think, and almost none from the north during those bad storms that bear down in the middle of the country and freeze everything, often including the oranges in FL.
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Sep 18, 2011 14:11:33   #
Strubbles wrote:
gessman wrote:
mommy115 wrote:
My favorites are the first two. The second I like as is...it gives the feel of a real snowstorm. I guess you could trim of a little from the right side to comform with the rule of thirds. The first one is nicely composed and I love the pure white background/foreground. I tried some things with it. See what you think. The idea was to make the bridge more of a point of focus.


Thanks mommy. I'm not enthralled with the "auto-contrast" version because it strips part of what I intended to convey - namely, that after the fresh snow it was so cold that there was a fog set in that caused everything in the scene to lose clear focus, even to the naked eye. I like the re-composure fine except for one thing, as in the first one - it makes the bridge look ever so slightly bigger, which is actually an optical illusion, and leaves the impression that I was closer to the bridge than I was and would hence diminish the degree of severity to which the fog impacted the scene. I don't know, maybe my idea of what I wanted to convey is a little over the top with respect to what I CAN convey. We can sure talk ourselves into stuff, huh? It was not the bridge or the tree in the first two that was my subject - it was the atmospheric conditions that existed in a record cold incident. Thanks.
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I kind of got that... that you were thinking of the snow and weather and not the bridge.....
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Thanks Strubbles. I also wanted to convey the potential feeling of lonely isolation that one could ascribe oneself to, transferring to a human condition the act of being out there alone in that kind of weather, forever - knowing all the while that the bridge, the tree, the lake, indeed the park were all surrounded by a densely populated area just feet away all conveniently removed by mother nature solely for the purpose of allowing me to get such a picture. It's beginning to look like I failed in my intent, imagination run amok. That may be the major thing wrong with my sense of one of the main purposes of photography. The mind races ahead and imagines situations that the camera cannot depict. It's almost seems to be a little "nuts."
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Sep 18, 2011 14:02:07   #
ShakyShutter wrote:
...publishers purposely take a "myopic" view of story suggestions just so they don't end up looking like copy cats but in the end they end up looking exactly like copy cats.


Well said and very informative - casts a new and valid light on the subject. Thanks.
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Sep 18, 2011 13:48:55   #
photocat wrote:
The question I ask about your local guy. Did he pass this off as his idea, or he wanted to re-create the images of Jackson and hung them with that intent.

It is doubtful I would be interest in either the project or purchase, but I do believe for me at least, if he did, good for him. At least he is giving the orginal credit.

The other reality, I know when I take a group of people out to the same area, there will be several images that will be very similar, but it is also more common to see just how different the results can be. We used to do shows like this all the time.
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His book was about 11x14, landscape naturally, and it was set up so Jackson's shot was on the left side and the local guy's on the right. It's sole purpose was to convey and contrast the images side by side. It was very interesting and he sure did a good job, never passing his role off as being anything other than that.
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Sep 18, 2011 13:42:34   #
mommy115 wrote:
My favorites are the first two. The second I like as is...it gives the feel of a real snowstorm. I guess you could trim of a little from the right side to comform with the rule of thirds. The first one is nicely composed and I love the pure white background/foreground. I tried some things with it. See what you think. The idea was to make the bridge more of a point of focus.


Thanks mommy. I'm not enthralled with the "auto-contrast" version because it strips part of what I intended to convey - namely, that after the fresh snow it was so cold that there was a fog set in that caused everything in the scene to lose clear focus, even to the naked eye. I like the re-composure fine except for one thing, as in the first one - it makes the bridge look ever so slightly bigger, which is actually an optical illusion, and leaves the impression that I was closer to the bridge than I was and would hence diminish the degree of severity to which the fog impacted the scene. I don't know, maybe my idea of what I wanted to convey is a little over the top with respect to what I CAN convey. We can sure talk ourselves into stuff, huh? It was not the bridge or the tree in the first two that was my subject - it was the atmospheric conditions that existed in a record cold incident. Thanks.
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Sep 18, 2011 13:05:54   #
This conversation is warming up nicely. Interesting the comment about "finding other's tripod leg holes." Let me revisit our local photographer who snowshoes and camps in a snow caves to get "those special pictures" I mentioned earlier. He recently spent some great amount of time putting his tripod in those holes left by William Henry Jackson when he came out west with Albert Bierstadt and the rest of the survey team. He did a remarkable job and it was hailed as a monumental success and sold like crazy. Jackson's shots were in B&W, naturally, and our local man's was in color. It offered quite a contrast but in reality, most of the shots, especially those with structures in them when Jackson shot them, structures now gone, yielded shots I would walk right on by on any given day never raising my camera. While it was an intriguing study in how things change in just over 100 years, it otherwise made little or no sense to me. Which raises another question in parenthesis for this subject - can we truly argue with success without it looking like "sour grapes."
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Sep 18, 2011 12:48:05   #
aaron wrote:
so why not go out and look at the Canon Rebel line? now that theres a T3i, maybe the T2 series has good prices. cant go wrong with the Canons.


I don't think anyone in this post said anything about not liking the camera they now have which would almost make your contribution seem as though it is an advertisement for Canon.

You sir/ma'am, it would appear, seem to be contributing to this forum solely for the purpose of pumping up Canon sales. You have submitted no images for critique and a noteworthy portion of your posts are urging people to buy Canon, use Canon, or get support from Canon.

I don't mind your advice but I have been using Canon since the FTb came out, along with several Nikon products over the years, currently using the EOS 5D MkII, but if your purpose here is only to pump up Canon sales, it might be a good thing if you were to frequent some other avenue to achieve your goals. Your suggestion that I look at the Rebel line makes little sense given that it would represent a sizable step backwards for me.

If I'm incorrect, I humbly apologize and while I'm not the "hall monitor" in here, I don't appreciate you taking my time to read a manufacturer's advertisement.
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Sep 18, 2011 04:36:01   #
...just so you ladies don't think I'm just all about bull elk, here comes my sissy side - what do you think about these apples? Tell me what I'm doing wrong with my flowers, please.

Look at the whiskers on that Iris


another wildlife shot


pollen inside a Moss Rose

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Sep 18, 2011 04:29:15   #
Jwilliams0469 wrote:
gessman wrote:


I'm glad to hear you're safe. A lot of folks aren't. I am aware of some of the sites but not all the ones you mentioned. I'm just real leery of online companies. Some of them aren't very secure and often when they go out of business, they just lock the doors and walk off. It's good the one you use has a plan. Now, if they'll only do what they say they will. My excessive method is my way of guarding against the unpredictability of those online companies. I'm going to trust 'em, just about as far as I can throw 'em. Thanks for the response and offering up those free sites. I'd do more'n one and still do gmail because some of the restore processes of "cloud" companies are not terrible convenient or quick whereas gmail is right there when you want it and as quick and simple as opening an email. My question about online storage is whether or not some of those guys are going to compress my images and degrade them to save themselves some bucks.
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Actually, if you aren't worried about Gmail going out of business then you shouldn't worry about weebly.com going out of business as it is created and backed 100% by Google. Technically, it's only free if you don't want to use most of the website creation tools like video, selling tools, and so on. I completely trust google to their part as it plainly states in the agreement that if google/weebly does not do their part in any such event they will be held 100% responsible to pay for or replace any of your properties.
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Yah, especially if they have funds to do that with or are not tied up in court for a few years. And, you bet, I AM not being very positive and AM looking on the dark side of things.
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Sep 18, 2011 03:49:46   #
Jwilliams0469 wrote:
I see your point... I too have multiple keepsakes of each and every photograph I have on my computer, but not only my photographs but my music, documents, and so fourth. I keep most of my stuff stored in what I say is the same thing as a
"Cloud storage" basically online... you might check it out as it is completely free and you can store unlimited amounts of files here. www.weebly.com and if you have google chrome there's an app for it a couple others are subhub.com and snappages.com. They are supposed to be used as websites for your company or whatever but you can choose it to be for personal usage and never publish it. However, if these company's ever sell out or go out of business they will send all of your files to you through a compressed zip file to e-mail... It works out great for me and the best part is, it's not using up your hard drive!
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I'm glad to hear you're safe. A lot of folks aren't. I am aware of some of the sites but not all the ones you mentioned. I'm just real leery of online companies. Some of them aren't very secure and often when they go out of business, they just lock the doors and walk off. It's good the one you use has a plan. Now, if they'll only do what they say they will. My excessive method is my way of guarding against the unpredictability of those online companies. I'm going to trust 'em, just about as far as I can throw 'em. Thanks for the response and offering up those free sites. I'd do more'n one and still do gmail because some of the restore processes of "cloud" companies are not terrible convenient or quick whereas gmail is right there when you want it and as quick and simple as opening an email. My question about online storage is whether or not some of those guys are going to compress my images and degrade them to save themselves some bucks.
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Sep 18, 2011 03:40:33   #
You have nice toys Jim. I'm having trouble making out the hood ornament on the car. It looks like a 33 to 35 in that range somewhere. Is it a DeSota or a disguised Ford or what? Yep, I'm an old biker. Bought a Harley when I was 18 and a Western Union messenger. The sucker had a suicide clutch and fell on me while I was juggling all the controls soon after I bought it so after short run at another Harley I gravitated to British bikes, the first one being my beloved Triumph. To me, no bike ever sounded sweeter. Harleys were too big for me, a short guy, and still make way too much noise for me.
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Sep 18, 2011 03:24:27   #
sinatraman wrote:
The stupidest thing my dad did to get a photograph was the time we had twin funnel clouds over our house and dad who was a professional photographer was outside with his nikon shooting away happy as a clam, with mom yelling at him to get in. the funnel clouds were swirlling but hadn't touched down (I think they were looking for a trailer park) Unfortunately with all my moves that is one photo that got lost.


Being raised in the Bible Belt/Tornado Alley, I spent way too much time being shoved under the bed or the table when it got cloudy by my lil' God fearing mother that I think I'm way too conditioned to stand right in front of a tornado. Dodging a hungry cat is pretty tame by comparison, I reckon.
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