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Sep 21, 2011 17:39:26   #
APhelpsPhoto wrote:
I've been fooling around with it for a bit and everything I do takes the colors out of the water and keeps the brightness of the goose. I'll try a few more things and then post them up here. I also just uploaded a new topic called High Pass with an example of what I was thinking. It's of a dog...but more the colors


Cool. Thanks. I'll go have a look.
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Sep 21, 2011 17:33:10   #
[quote=tainkc][quote=gessman][quote=tainkc][quote=gessman]
tainkc wrote:
gessman wrote:
tainkc wrote:
As you can tell I'm easily confused.


Why, my friend, I can't tell that at all. I'm just an old geezer having a little fun here and there and don't intend to do anyone any harm. I've been looking at your pics and you're doing some really good stuff. Don't worry about me. There's folks in here who's knowledge is so far superior to mine that I try to let them get their 2 cents worth in and I only step in if they fail to do so. I couldn't decide which way I liked the flower either and that's why I posted the options I thought were most reasonable. As we say nowadays, "it's all good!"
quote=tainkc As you can tell I'm easily confuse... (show quote)


Yes, I agree. It's all good and a lot of fun at that. Right at this very moment I am editing butterfly shots that I took yesterday. I already posted one of them showing 2 butterflies on the same flower. In about a 10 minute span, I took 156 pictures all with a 200mm kit lens. If I were more awake at the time, I would have whipped out my 30mm macro lens. I am kind of glad that I did not now that I think about it because it is an f2.8 prime. The wing tips or something else would surely be out of focus. I am having a blast with my new Sony.

This is the only forum that I have joined and I have to tell you that I am glad that I did. Between you and a few of the others, I have already learned and expanded so much in such a short time and I thank you very, very much.
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I'll go see if I can find your butterflies. It sure isn't hard to fire off some shots. I used to try to do that with film and it almost caused me a divorce a couple of times. We're all learning in here and that's a good thing, well all of us but a couple and it's really good that they're in here. I'm grateful. Later.
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Sep 21, 2011 17:20:44   #
mortonfarm wrote:
gessman wrote:
SQUIRL033 wrote:
the rule of thirds is a guideline, not a hard and fast law. most images look better when the composition makes use of those guidelines, but there are certainly viable exceptions and reasons to ignore the rule of thirds.

that said, i'm not sure the merganser shot shouldn't have more in front for the bird to move into. you can still show the wake behind, perhaps not as much, and you might need to take a wider crop to do it, but this one's just a bit too cramped on the right.

the goose shot is okay as it is. you've got some nice colors, including that blue wake, but it could benefit from a bit less contrast and some judicious toning down of the bright spots... the whites on the goose are a bit too hot.
the rule of thirds is a guideline, not a hard and ... (show quote)


Thank you. I can already tell that I'm going to enjoy this thread. The merganser is an in camera crop. I didn't take anything off and shot it that way on purpose. I'd have to clone in more water in front and above her which will what, change the perspective and push back and diminish my attempt to get as much of the action in the frame as possible. I guess enough to back her up. How far? ...to the rule of 3rds point on the still short side of the pic? If you have the time, please pull it in and show me what you have in mind and put it back out here. I would sincerely appreciate it. There's violence connected with their landing and I was hoping to convey that they pretty much land out of control and nearly run off the end of the landing strip. I guess I missed.
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IDK...made me kinda wonder what was coming up behind him...tho I do agree that there could be just a little more water in front of him...but if it isn't there it just isnt there huh? I don't know anything about edge extensions, haven't moved into that yet. I do agree that the white in the 2nd shot is too white...at least for my taste....but the Canadian Geese are so regal appearing...!I like your photos and the way you kinda challange others to think and apply it to their own work...Linda
quote=gessman quote=SQUIRL033 the rule of thirds... (show quote)


Thank you Linda. I've toned down the goose as you'll see. As for the merganser, I've got to see if I can find my sequence of that to see what's available to me.

Before...


After...

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Sep 21, 2011 17:11:44   #
APhelpsPhoto wrote:
There is no reason for you to need it. You have amazing photos. The one of the goose I am just in love with. The colors are great...my way does'nt improve it. It just gives a different, I guess more 'artsy' view to it. I'll work on it and post it if you want. But as I said before, it won't improve the picture! :)


Thank you and absolutely, I'd like to see your vision of the goose. I'm not a very artistic person and am open to all suggestions. Thanks again.
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Sep 21, 2011 17:05:27   #
bobmielke wrote:
Dolmen wrote:
Canon's 70-300 is capable of very good results,trouble is,people are unable to master it,too slow shutter speed being the most common cause of bad results.So get to know your equipment,& stop whining.


Please take this poster's comments with a grain of salt. He has posted no photographs and has listed his location as "In Hiding". When confronted in a private message about his antagonistic approach his response was that he "likes to shake up the weenies on this forum".
quote=Dolmen Canon's 70-300 is capable of very go... (show quote)


Ya know, I was just about to ask him to post some of those "tack sharp" shots from that lens. I'd like to see them. One other quick point about equipment - those sites that test lens and show you the graphs and curves - what you want is a side by side actual shot for shot comparison and you can get that at www.luminous-landscape.com in many, not all, instances. I am in no way associated with that site except as a fan and appreciator of the man's efforts. I wouldn't buy a piece of equipment without seeing if he'd tossed it up against its nearest competitors in a "shootout." His methodology is clear, correct, and his results are apparent and believable. "L" glass cost an arm and a leg. Get what you pay for. He tells it like it is. I keep saying this and hope I'm not becoming a nuisance about it but I can't stress it enough.
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Sep 21, 2011 13:39:36   #
THEMRED7007 wrote:
WHAT'S THE STORAGE LIFE OF MEDIA ON AN SD CARD ?
MR.ED


I didn't mention flash memory because, although getting better, the cost has been fairly prohibitive to use as a backup/storage medium from my perspective. I haven't heard just yet what the manufacturers are claiming probably due to the fact that I've not been paying attention, but it would probably be real good as long as it is totally safe from natural disasters, fires, floods, etc. I do know that it has to be superior to hard drives that are kept in service over a long haul because there are no moving parts which is often what affects hard drives, bearings, etc. It's much more fool and fail proof than anything up to now but, as I said, I haven't noticed how far we can expect it to take us into the future. My guess that it would be a long time, if not permanent. Good thinking if you've got the bucks.

I did have a mishap recently with a 16 gig card. I pushed it into my reader and didn't think it had seated so I gave it another push and it snapped right in the middle, not into two, but bent and broken. Now, it shows me that it's a 6.5 gig card but won't format. So, like anything in life, if you tend to be a little stout, be extra gentle and don't push too hard. If it doesn't seem like it went in right, pull it back out and do it again - as many times as necessary to ensure you're not breaking anything. I can't give you an estimate how many time you may have to do that, but you'll figure it out without my help, I'm sure.
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Sep 21, 2011 13:15:56   #
jbert wrote:
Check this out. Great scanner


http://www.imaging-resource.com/SCAN/DSEIII/DSEIIIA.HTM


I didn't overlook those but, like our original poster about this, ThomasS said, he wants one that can handle a stack loader and work without being hand fed one at a time and unless I missed it somewhere, the Dimage is a single feeder - not what was asked for. I don't know about all other scanners but I did answer his question with what knowledge I do have.
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Sep 21, 2011 02:24:32   #
Yooper wrote:
gessman wrote:
I meant to induce a feeling of tension and thought the best way to do that was put her too close to the leading edge. I guess we can't always convey what we desire without causing an imbalance somewhere.


Well, gessman, I think you succeeded nicely, and I think that tension helps to make this image for me; I think I prefer it the way it is because it is moving. If it was just swimming, I don't think I would like it, but this works for me. The goose, on the other hand, not so much.
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Thank you sir. I agree about that ol' goose. It just wasn't very exciting. I've got to remember to get in there and see if I can tone it down a little and see how it looks. Digital really does some unusual things to some images compared with film, which I suppose did some equally but different things almost as strange as digital. You're up a little late tonight. Seems like several folks are up late on the forum, more so at this hour than I think I've previously seen. Wonder what's troubling folks so they can't sleep.

I'm heading for the sack soon myself. Got to go see my cardiologist in the morning early and don't want to be all tired out. He'll want to slap me in the hospital and shoot me full of fluids. :-) Can't have that. I'd miss the next chapter of "As the Ugly Hedgehog Turns." 'night.
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Sep 21, 2011 02:18:09   #
[quote=tainkc][quote=gessman][quote=tainkc][quote=gessman]
tainkc wrote:
As you can tell I'm easily confused.


Why, my friend, I can't tell that at all. I'm just an old geezer having a little fun here and there and don't intend to do anyone any harm. I've been looking at your pics and you're doing some really good stuff. Don't worry about me. There's folks in here who's knowledge is so far superior to mine that I try to let them get their 2 cents worth in and I only step in if they fail to do so. I couldn't decide which way I liked the flower either and that's why I posted the options I thought were most reasonable. As we say nowadays, "it's all good!"
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Sep 21, 2011 01:46:54   #
tainkc wrote:
gessman wrote:
tainkc wrote:
I dunno. You taught me to stay off center a little but in this case, I think your flower ( pistol ) is touching too close to the left. It needs a tad bit more room. What do you think? Excellent photos anyway.


Thanks. You said, "what do you think?" No offense but it appears to me as thought you didn't get in on the first of this thread but are responding to someone else's comments and a picture they may have put up after "fixing" mine. If I'm wrong about that then please forgive me. But here was my original question - "Which is better, my #1 pic which is the unaltered original, or #2 which is that same shot cropped, or #3 which is with no cropping but turned 90 degrees up, or #4 which is #2 turned up 90 degrees. All the same picture just 2 uncropped, 2 cropped the same, and 2 turned up instead of to the left.
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I must be lacking somewhere because I like #3. What I was saying is that it seems to me that the left or the bottom side ( depending on which photo one is looking at ) is cropped just a little too close to the edge.
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It seems to be a tossup between 1 & 3. No crop occurred except in the camera on those two. I just had my lens too far down in the flower for your liking. I can see what you mean and maybe next time I'll get a shot for you and then one for me. :-) How's that. Thanks again.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:35:30   #
I like it a lot. That appears to be 1955-56 Schwinn Traveler 3-speed disguised as a John Deere bicycle, an item of which I have never heard. I did have a Schwinn Traveler though. I bought the first one that came into Arkansas. Again, at the risk of repeating myself, I was a Western Union messenger. I had my bike on order for almost a year as soon as the were announced. It was like a going on vacation after that 50 pound thing I rode up to then. That's a real piece of history someone is letting go to rack and ruin. "The Pickers" on the History Channel would go nuts for that.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:25:51   #
Ugly Jake wrote:
One last comment, Gessman - and yes, please call me "Ugly"(It's a theme ) - just don't call me late for supper !

I wanted to show you a lily with a white background, but couldn't find it - it was still in the camera!!

This is in front of the junk Audi in the bushes - not quite a "natural" backdrop (Except maybe in VT and some of the "Hill-William" states.)


Nice! I see your point. Stands out. As for the Audi, those are lawn sculptures and we use commodes and bathtubs for planters in my "Hill William" home state of Arkansas. Thanks Ugly. Dinner is usually ready around 6 mountain time here in my transplanted home of Denver. You're welcome any time.
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Sep 21, 2011 01:19:46   #
APhelpsPhoto wrote:
I LOVE the goose. If you have Photoshop try To use 'High Pass' and turn it up to 250 pixels. I know it sounds strange...but I did this with a photo I took of a Lab out while we were hunting and everyone who sees it wants it and wants to know how I did it. I tried it with your photo (hope you don't mind, I didn't keep it) but it darkens the really bright colors a bit.
But I would hang it the way you have it! :)


Thanks. I'd like to see what it looked like as you corrected it. I use Elements 2 I've had for years and know nothing about PS and "high pass." Have no idea what it does. I've been hunting a reason to get PS but I really don't do all that much editing. Give me a reason. I'm serious. Thanks.
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Sep 21, 2011 00:43:44   #
FuzMuz wrote:
Your very welcome - If you have Elements 9 you could try stitching the sequence togther in a sudo panoramic. Then play with the result. I am retired and tend to forget that others don't have my kind of free time to play with their photos.


Good idea. I don't have 9 - have been using 2 for years. Don't recall running into stitching but I think I have a stitching program. In fact, I think some of the Canon software that came with my camera allows that. I really don't play with my pics very much. I tend to spend too much time shooting when not doing this. I just don't know if I have the image back to the first touchdown point. That water patters isn't probably going to be easy to match up. Would be a good puzzle, eh? I, too, am retired so time isn't an issue with me either. Thanks and I'll see if I can't pursue it further.
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Sep 21, 2011 00:06:28   #
betsout06 wrote:
I love this shot....especially the water tail....what do you think?


Thanks. FuzMuz just before you made a very good point in that he/she felt it would be even better if I could re-crop to show the entire trail from the time the bird first hit the water and then draw her back to the lower right junction of the 3rds rule. As I told FuzMuz, I don't recall cropping this shot but it was part of a sequence and I may have gotten the whole slide in zone or not. I also don't remember panning but I may have. I'm going to try to dig out my other shots in the sequence and see if I have that. I like your crop and the way you brought the bird closer even if it is an unconventional dimension. Thanks again.
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