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Apr 19, 2020 12:05:06   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Are you denying trump's R****T history?


There is no known evidence that Trump ever wore blackface. But this picture may be evidence that Trump is in fact a r****t.

Trumps black ex-girlfriend lol

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Apr 19, 2020 11:41:27   #
BooIsMyCat wrote:
My argument was in response to tomcat - HE stated that Clinton was responsible for NAFTA - which was and still is wrong!

Then, you jumped in and stated that the bill passed in 1993, still blaming Clinton when in fact, it was started under Reagan and the groundwork was set in place by Bush.

Now, you come along and bolded "initialing of the draft"... for why? It was still STARTED by someone other than Clinton.

The FACT remains... no matter WHO signed the bill - ECONOMISTS back then AND now still feel that NAFTA was good for the country (as a whole). Tariffs are not!
My argument was in response to tomcat - HE stated ... (show quote)


I agreed with you that NAFTA was a Republican idea, that again wasn't my argument. I also didn't initially blame Clinton for that idea, yet he did sign the bill so it's on his head as well. Again, it was a Republican idea supported by many Democrats and signed into law by President Clinton.
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Apr 19, 2020 11:26:13   #
mwalsh wrote:
Is that really what you got from his post?


Seems petty.


Do you know Thom? lol
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Apr 19, 2020 11:23:56   #
photosbytw wrote:
............I wasn't fast enough to amend my posting.........and I don't argue. I try to comment when I feel there's a need for clarification........ironically enough, it was my post that needed it..........


You are fine, its human nature that we all suffer from.
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Apr 19, 2020 11:19:52   #
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Isn't that nitpicking to justify a false claim?


BOTTOM LINE: NAFTA was a Republican idea! It was IN THE WORKS way before Clinton moved to 1600 Penn Ave.


Accuracy to support actual facts is nitpicking? Yes, NAFTA was a Republican idea, but that wasn't your argument.
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Apr 19, 2020 11:16:21   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Do a little research!

Most of those 515 businesses aren't actually active businesses, trump only keeps them on paper to boast about!

Provide a list of actually active businesses and then compare those against the bankruptcy filings, and the percentage will change considerably!

The trump financial picture isn't as rosy as he and you keep trying to make it out to be.

Deutsche Bank is about to call in the trump loans which trump personally guaranteed.

With the cash flow from the active trump businesses almost nonexistent right now, that's a place no business wants to be, and there's very little that trump can do about it right now, because he's the sitting president and has allegedly turned over the day to day running of the businesses to his sons.

I can't wait to see the fallout from Deutsche Bank calling in the trump business loans!
Do a little research! br br Most of those 515 bus... (show quote)


Lol OMFG its like I'm talking to a moldy wall, you are always deflecting and bringing up more BS. You just can't accept the fact that trump was a successful business man and you will always focus on the businesses or investments that have filed for bankruptcy, but you should refuse to look at the whole picture because it doesn't fit your narrative in your bias.
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Apr 19, 2020 11:12:31   #
photosbytw wrote:
Sorry, that's not true.........The Atlantic City Casinos.......Trump’s casino, the Trump Taj Mahal, found itself 3 billion dollars in debt with Trump personally guaranteeing nearly 1 billion dollars worth of the debt personally. Trump was forced to sell off several pieces of personal property including a yacht and an investment in an airline to satisfy the debts and even then he was forced to make payments on the debt for several years after due to debts that weren’t discharged in the bankruptcy.
Sorry, that's not true.........The Atlantic City C... (show quote)


Lol what was not true? Trump was probably not managing the property personally but most likely had a contracted management company at those businesses. But once again, THAT WAS NOT MY INITIAL ARGUMENT.
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Apr 19, 2020 11:07:14   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Because a man with four bankruptcies has been able 4 times to bring his business back to life and be successful. Many of our greatest Americans suffered failure numerous times before reaching real success. It used to be in America that someone who went bankrupt and then rebuilt his fortune was respected. But you and yours continue to put down just about anything Donald Trump has done for the good of this country.

Take a look around at what our economic figures were before the v***s. Were those numbers something to disrespect? Not in my book yet the Left has disrespected President Trump, even threatening impeachment before he took office. And yet the economy has soared under his leadership. There is employment for anyone who wants it including minorities who suffered greatly under past presidencies. Welfare numbers down, military strength up, ISIS pretty much defeated even though our last President, Obama, told us it would take what, 20 years. Trump did it in one year. Trade deals signed that the Left would be failures. Whoops, guess not. And yet the Left continues to tell us that Trump policies are failures. Even with the v***s the past two weeks the economy has risen.

Is Trump the nicest smoothest talking baby kissing politician we have ever had? No, not by a long shot. But against what the Left tells us he is no dummy either. But of course the Left wants to foist Joe Biden upon us in the next e******n. What would we expect the Left to tell us of Trump and his policies? The Left is doing what it needs to do in order to win the next e******n, Lie through their teeth and hope for the best.

Dennis
Because a man with four bankruptcies has been able... (show quote)


The incessant refusal by the Lefties on here to accept facts is disturbingly bizarre.
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Apr 19, 2020 11:02:12   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Actually the way that trumps businesses are structured, the income from them all roll up into his personal income and taxes.

He was only buffered by that structure, but the bankruptcies there just the same!

Mismanagement by trump was the cause each time, especially with the THREE casino bankruptcies!


Nonsense, Trump was most likely not personally managing those Casino's, but that's not the point of my argument which you seem to refuse to address. TRUMP NEVER HAD TO FILE BANKRUPTCY PERSONALLY!


Context is usually helpful. Trump has about 515 businesses and investments, maybe up to 12 had to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. 12 out of 515 are pretty good odds for business. That t***slates to about a 98% success rate, is that not an indication of a successful business person?
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Apr 19, 2020 10:59:24   #
PAR4DCR wrote:
Trump Taj Manal --- 1991
Trump's Castle & Trump Plaza Casinos --- 1992
Trump Plaza Hotel --- 1992
Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts --- 2004
Trump Entertainment Resorts --- 2009


Maybe not personal but not a great business man either.

Don


Context is usually helpful. Trump has about 515 businesses and investments, maybe up to 12 had to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. 12 out of 515 are pretty good odds for business. That t***slates to about a 98% success rate, is that not an indication of a successful business person?
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Apr 19, 2020 10:48:16   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Failure to act fast enough to close the United States to all travel allowed the p******c spread of the C****-** V***s all across the United States.

That virulent spread caused the closing down of the country.

The eventual closing down of the country by governors in a patchwork fashion caused the loss of those 2.2 MILLION jobs.

How is that not the fault of trump, the commander in chief, who was derelict in his duties to protect the residents of the United States?

If trump hadn't ignored his National Security briefings for over two months until the United States hit the point of no return, many of those 2.2 MILLION jobs wouldn't have been lost!

It wasn't until an acquaintance of trump became infected that the reality of the C****-** V***s hit home and he finally began to respond.

Too little, too late!
Failure to act fast enough to close the United Sta... (show quote)


Lol that's just bs lies and conspiracy bs. Lol
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Apr 19, 2020 10:43:48   #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
He never filed for personal bankruptcy, but his businesses sure did.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-business-failures-were-very-real


Yes, but that wasnt my argument.
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Apr 19, 2020 10:43:01   #
mwalsh wrote:
People never seem to be able to figure that out...


I wonder if any thread that was started in the Attic was ever moved to another section like Photo "Analysis".
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Apr 19, 2020 10:40:18   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Get with the program, you can ONLY ENROLL IN ACA through your state Healthcare connector!

Not knowing that means that you're NOT enrolled in ACA yourself!

So how do you get your Healthcare insurance?


LOL I am very aware how the ACA works and how to establish enrollment. Yet you seem to refuse my questioning as to why YOU who support the ACA refuse to enroll in the ACA.
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Apr 19, 2020 10:34:44   #
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Scroll down on your link.... look to the RIGHT for a photo.... you will see.

Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, at the initialing of the draft North American Free Trade Agreement in October 1992.


Yes I read that, but be mindful of the words printed, I will highlight the words for you.

Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, at the initialing of the draft North American Free Trade Agreement in October 1992.[/quote]
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