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Jun 17, 2022 19:23:31   #
Texcaster wrote:
Why the dodgy straw men from you all the time?

Surely iron clad control of who gets to legally own and wield awesome semi-firepower addresses both groups.


That's already been addressed. Haven't you been paying attention? It's called the 2nd Amendment.
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Jun 17, 2022 18:58:45   #
DaveO wrote:
Keep trolling little fella, but your confusion is obvious. Projecting does not make you look any less guilty than you have frequently proven yourself to be. You joined the Attic and jumped on the trolling bandwagon, which is fine, but playing b-boy games really defines you.


That's my purpose in life. Trolling clueless liberals. And I seem to have achieved my mission with you. Talk about sensitive fellas. Your skin seems to be paper thin. LOL Consider yourself trolled.
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Jun 17, 2022 18:46:42   #
DaveO wrote:
Every so often we get a sexual intellectual who pretends to be the new sheriff in town and most of the time it’s a whiney little whacko.


It's time to quit embarrassing yourself. We see what you are. You don't have to keep proving it for all to see.
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Jun 17, 2022 18:13:08   #
DaveO wrote:
You thin skinned character! Someone can’t find humor in what you say? In no way was I being disrespectful, but you wasted no time slipping into the bs. ‘Bye!


That's fine. Now I know who I'm dealing with.
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Jun 17, 2022 18:01:07   #
DaveO wrote:
LOL, there was mention of other persons that fuel the partisan rhetoric, Pelosi, etc, but no mention of every single what if. “Reasonable” people should be able to reach some reasonable conclusion without playing lawyer or crying foul with their every breath.

I don’t believe the real objective was to investigate what happened on J** 6, but rather to lay out Trump’s culpability in various the aspects of motive and planning.


I thought we were having a respectful conversation where we could agree to disagree, but since you find something I said funny with your LOL, I guess I was wrong. I think you should educate yourself and read SEC3: PURPOSES of the committee's own page.
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Jun 17, 2022 17:03:36   #
DaveO wrote:
Are the actions of others supposed to mitigate the basic charges of the inquiry?


No, not at all. But I thought this was an investigation to find out what happened on 1*6. I didn't know it's sole purpose was just a fishing expedition to incriminate Trump. Wouldn't you like to know if there were FBI instigators in the crowd? It certainly wouldn't absolve those who r**ted, but it certainly would throw a different light on things.
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Jun 17, 2022 16:44:20   #
Kmgw9v wrote:
This is not a trial. It is a fact-finding investigation. If those subpoenaed, and are now being held in contempt of Congress by refusing to testify, had different stories they would have been heard. They refused to participate in this fact finding investigation, by choice and design. John Eastmanwho wrote the infamous memo pleaded the fifth over 100 times when he testified. He then wanted to be put on Trump’s pardon list.
The investigation is then presented, or not, to the Justice department, and then Garland makes a decision to indict, or not, based on indisputable facts. This is not a TV entertainment show—far from it. It is an attempt to find out what happened when our republic was threatened, to protect it in the future. Luttig testified that his main objective was to fix what went wrong before 2024. Trump tried to execute a c**p, and that must be investigated. Every American who values our e*******l system should be watching this “TV entertainment”. This is real. “Seven Days in May” pales in comparison to what Trump’s people have revealed.
This is not a trial. It is a fact-finding investi... (show quote)


You have repeated ad nauseam, that there aren't any more witnesses. You ever hear of Ray Epps? Why are we not allowed to hear his testimony? Hmmmmm? Why are we not allowed to question Nancy Pelosi and her dereliction of duty? What about the DC mayor?
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Jun 17, 2022 16:36:06   #
Fotoartist wrote:
Really, a fact finding investigation? Have we learned why a Capitol officer lethally shoot a petite unarmed woman entering a Capitol window? And why was the officer’s identity and, indeed all information about his record, withheld from the public?

Have we learned anything about the large numbers of FBI agents and informants who were everywhere among the crowd? Even the NYT claimed, “There were a ton of FBI informants amongst the people who attacked the Capitol.”

Have we learned why there were lots of warnings that a large crowd would assemble, but little government follow-up to ensure security, should just such an event turn violent?

Have we learned why the government and media promoted the lie that officer Brian Sicknick was k**led by Trump supporters—even when it was known he died of natural causes the next day?

None of these questions will be answered because none will be asked. After all, the committee’s role is not inquiry but to ensure Donald Trump doesn't run a third time.
Really, a fact finding investigation? Have we lear... (show quote)


That is the one and only goal. He upset the Swamp. If they were interested about what happened on 1*6, they would put Pelosi, the Mayor of DC, and the head of the C*****l p****e on as witnesses.
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Jun 17, 2022 16:31:41   #
Kmgw9v wrote:
What witness can t***hfully say that Trump didn’t conspire to overturn the e******n by illegally sending the e******n back to the Congress? There was no “There” there, no legal way to do anything but what Pence did—certify the e*******l v**es in accordance with his Constitutional duty. Trump exhausted his court cases, his efforts to influence e******n officials, his attempts to have Pence act illegally. At that point, he enlisted the P***d B**s and others to create such havoc that the Constitutional process was disturbed—which the world watched on TV. These facts are indisputable, and ther is no witness on God’s green earth that can t***hfully offer dissenting testimony.
Eastman wanted to be on Trump’s pardon list, because he that he f….Ed up badly, and failed in his illegal attempts to help in Trump’s rubber room madness.
What witness can t***hfully say that Trump didn’t ... (show quote)

Well,OK, that's it then. Some nobody on the internet named Kmgw9v has issued his decree. We can do way with the legislative and judicial bodies and just wait for his decree about THE T***H and guilt.
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Jun 17, 2022 15:04:02   #
FrumCA wrote:
The issue IS getting to the t***h. I don't intend to speak for all but I believe the problem most conservatives who are pushing back on this have is that the witnesses called so far are only those who were carefully selected and have a negative story to tell. No witnesses have been called that might have a different view on what happened. A one-sided investigation does not get to the t***h. It only proves partisanship.


Exactly. But it's futile trying to get that point across to Kmgw9v and others who know who they are. It just doesn't compute for them. Trump may very well be guilty of everything they say. If so fine. Prosecute him if it's determined it's a crime. But I'm not willing to throw someone's life away after hearing only one side of the story.
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Jun 17, 2022 14:26:09   #
letmedance wrote:
The T***h is not true until it is questioned and proven beyond any reasonable doubt, when will that happen, until then it is just a soap opera.


Wow that's what I've been trying to say, but you said it much better than I could.
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Jun 17, 2022 14:21:24   #
Kmgw9v wrote:
It is an investigation, not a trial. . There is only one side,T***h. The witnesses are Republicans, Trump and Pence’s inner circle. The Republican leadership don’t want to know. The crazies who still Think Trump has honor, or is honest don’t want to know.


You keep repeating the same talking points. These are all Trump's inner circle. So what? There may be member's of Trump's so called inner circle who would say the opposite of what these people claim. The point is, we are only hearing testimony from the one's of the same opinion. You're just a hypocrite. You don't believe in THE T***H. All I'm asking for is fairness. But you, you believe in facist, N**i, Stasi style star chambers. Admit it.
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Jun 17, 2022 14:10:34   #
spokie wrote:
If you totally understand it’s not a trial then you totally understand that it’s not at all a question of evidence to convict. Here it is a question of getting to the t***h, to the bottom of what happened. Then after, if it is determined that laws were broken, it’s up to other departments to bring it to trial.

Trump’s supporters have gotten used to the concept that various versions of the t***h are acceptable. No, either something happened or it didn’t. Either something is legal or it’s not. No matter how you try to spin it.
If you totally understand it’s not a trial then yo... (show quote)


We'd all be better off if you just admit you believe in facist N**i Stasi style star chambers. You don't believe in fairness. If you're interested in the t***h, you would want to hear both sides.
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Jun 17, 2022 13:58:55   #
dirtpusher wrote:
Lol this is an open forum lol


You're quite right. For earthlings.
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Jun 17, 2022 13:16:25   #
Kmgw9v wrote:
It is an investigation, not a trial. . There is only one side,T***h. The witnesses are Republicans, Trump and Pence’s inner circle. The Republican leadership don’t want to know. The crazies who still Think Trump has honor, or is honest don’t want to know.


I totally understand it's not a trial. I was born at night, but not last night. Were the Watergate Hearings a trial? Then I guess according to your standards, they shouldn't have taken evidence from both sides????? You hold yourself up as some super patriot only interested in THE T***H. But in fact, you only want THE T***H that validates your preconceived notions. If you really wanted THE T***H, you would want to hear dissenting opinions before passing judgement.
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