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Oct 9, 2023 01:03:55   #
bnsf wrote:
Oct 9th is Monday.


Yup. But I needed to order from them last week at latest. Leave for Cortez Tuesday. It’s all ok. Did practice shots. Sensor is fine. Thx.
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Oct 9, 2023 01:01:30   #
User ID wrote:
16 stops is ND 4.8, and anything from 4.0 or beyond is safe for solar observing. Youve got an extra 3 stops beyond 4.0, just in case the sensor possibly needs even more protection than your eyes.

As to counting up all your zeros, you might find that the standard density notation is far more comprehensible than those ginormous lengthy numbers that you mentioned. (Its a little trick called an inverse log scale. It can take really unwieldy numbers and compact them into manageable bite-sized notation.)

In whole stops the scale goes 0.3, 0.6, 0.9, 1.2, 1.5, 1.8, and on and on. Each 0.3 that you add is one more stop. Its just plain dirt simple addition, over and over. (NEVER ask WHY the increment is always 0.3 and your head wont hurt !)
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Right. Not asking. Head hurts just thinking about asking. Do not need to know! My idea of ‘math’ is phone numbers and the Dewey Decimal System and recipe measurements.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:51:48   #
User ID wrote:
Likewise the full moon. The lighting and the "composition" are not of the photographers doing so who cares who shot whatever full moon pic is posted. Material proof that one can aim and focus a long lens isnt worth a second glance (really not even a first glance).

Blue moons and super moons are not visually distinct from any other moons, but dimbulbs anxiously seek advice about recording those "rare special events".


I guess that’s true, but for novices like me, it is fun trying to get the shot and improve those basic focusing skills.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:47:19   #
wdross wrote:
One of the three total eclipses I have been to ended up under the clouds. It still offers a different perspective but it is nothing like a total eclipse. Hopefully there will be a clear area close by so you can at least see your annular eclipse.

Also, you can see where all the eclipses of the world, including the USA, will occur using the NASA web site.


Good to know! It will be fun just to be there. I’m sure many will post on UHH soon after.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:37:41   #
rehess wrote:
B&H re-opens tomorrow morning, and aparently expects to get a filter ordered then to the user by the 14th, since they have a banner ad on their opening page. They also sent a “eclipse” ad to me tonight!


I’ll contact them first thing. Thx.
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Oct 9, 2023 00:10:32   #
User ID wrote:
Anything can get expensive if you let it. Did you have beads in your macrame ? Theres a rather pricey bead shop here in town ....


No patience for macrame..or knitting!
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Oct 8, 2023 22:56:20   #
wdross wrote:
I love your road though the trees shot. I am sure the Milky Way shot looks good too. Have fun with the annular eclipse. And make your plans for a total eclipse. I hope to be around for the total eclipse that will cover literally half of Colorado in 2045 (about 5 minutes long in Salida, Colorado). You might try for the total eclipse in 2027 (I believe). I think it will going from Texas to Maine. And there will be other total eclipses around the world. If you do go to one, you will learn why the say the different between a total eclipse and an annular eclipse is "like night and day". The stars and planets come out plus a major temperature drop. There is no filter needed for the actual totality. And the chromosphere is absolutely beautiful. I hope this all encourages you to go to one.
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Thanks so much! I appreciate the encouragement. Moved to Salida 18 months ago and miss my Littleton photo club a lot. Learned so much! Am on my own now.
We missed the last eclipse—only partial in Michigan. Will check out the next one!
Turns out Oct 14 may be cloudy in Cortez area—-we’ll have a good time anyway.
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Oct 8, 2023 22:34:03   #
User ID wrote:
What youve quoted from the article is approx correct bright sunny day settings WITHOUT any filter. Some Hogsters call that "sunny 16" but avoid such jargon unless you really WANT to seem like a dimbulb ....

Worse yet, mention of "sunny 16" can trigger 3 pages of verbose BS from our resident geek wannabee about how its actually off by 5/16 of a stop :-(


That jargon was from before I took up this hobby! But this week i feel like a dimbulb! Maybe I should have stuck with macrame—oh wait, I missed that craft’s era too! Sure would have been less expensive, though!
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Oct 8, 2023 22:30:53   #
bnsf wrote:
Are you using an eclipse filter if not you can damage the sensor from the light of the sun.


Yes, thanks. I bought ND100000. 16.5 stops. After reading more, I felt misled and might have bought ND1000000 (6 zeroes, not 5). But no time to revise and 16.5 sounds like it will suffice.
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Oct 8, 2023 22:23:44   #
bnsf wrote:
Check with B&H photo and speak to the Professional staff. They told me that I needed a Solar Eclipse filter and if I do not have one I will damage the photo sensor in the camera which is not covered by factory warranty. I purchased 2 Solar Eclipse filters for my Sony a99ii and the RX10M4. $200.00 is well worth the price of both cameras.


They are closed until Oct 9 for Succos. Too late for me to order anything.

Here is their article re solar filters. ND100000. 16.5. Minimum required.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/buying-guide/lens-filters-for-solar-photography

And they have several of this strength advertised for sale for solar photography.

You can see why I’ve been concerned—lots of conflicting advice.

I’m not using my ‘good’ camera—hoping for the best.

Thanks for your input.
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Oct 8, 2023 21:27:43   #
rehess wrote:
I spent the time of the last solar eclipse watching college students watch the eclipse.


I’ve gotten some decent Milky Way shots from my patio this summer.
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Oct 8, 2023 19:45:57   #
rehess wrote:
I’m surprised at how much UHH brainpower is spent photographing the sun, something that NASA does routinely.


It’s a first for me, a lark! We’ll visit Mesa Verde and other areas too. A road trip with good friends will be fun.

Have enjoyed CO colors lately too.


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Oct 8, 2023 10:33:28   #
User ID wrote:
What does the playback data say about the black frames ? 1/8000 at f/22 at 100 ISO ? That would be black in most situations even although the camera is fully functional.

The bright daylight setting for your filter at 25,000 ISO at 1/10 second is about f:4. Test that out. (Cloudy or rainy use at least a full second or more.)

Set a 5-digit manual ISO at a 2-digit shutter speed and widest open aperture. Does that render daylight scenes as black ? It should NOT. If still black, time to put the old a6000 into semiretirement, partially functional only.

BTW I am taking Riccardos word that you "ND100,000" is 16 stops. In the real world 16 stops is about ND4.0. Beats me what sort of scale your filter maker uses.
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I did as you instructed and got photos! It still functions! Yea! I had been following settings in an article. F8. 1/500-1/1000 and ISO 100. Started today with your formula and worked down to these and got a series of photos. Need to work on fine-tuning by putting it on a tripod and adjusting 1 factor at a time to get best histogram, then work on focus. Lots to learn! If I get any decent eclipse shots, I’ll post and let you know. Thanks so much.
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Oct 7, 2023 23:48:38   #
User ID wrote:
What does the playback data say about the black frames ? 1/8000 at f/22 at 100 ISO ? That would be black in most situations even although the camera is fully functional.

The bright daylight setting for your filter at 25,000 ISO at 1/10 second is about f:4. Test that out. (Cloudy or rainy use at least a full second or more.)

Set a 5-digit manual ISO at a 2-digit shutter speed and widest open aperture. Does that render daylight scenes as black ? It should NOT. If still black, time to put the old a6000 into semiretirement, partially functional only.

BTW I am taking Riccardos word that you "ND100,000" is 16 stops. In the real world 16 stops is about ND4.0. Beats me what sort of scale your filter maker uses.
What does the playback data say about the black fr... (show quote)



I’ll take a closer look at the playback. Good idea. Thanks for breaking it down.

I don’t understand the math re ND numbers but charts here confirm the ND100000 is 16plus stops. Anything over 16 seems ok for solar photography.

https://kolarivision.com/what-do-the-numbers-on-nd-filters-mean/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax1&gclid=CjwKCAjwg4SpBhAKEiwAdyLwvJv3XF6rVgLvq81ErG7b1zb8mK_JXdeIj-eGll7C4crD32RQ3rVWWxoCMnQQAvD_BwE
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Oct 7, 2023 21:22:09   #
User ID wrote:
The LCD screen and the eyepiece image are the same thing. Neither is looking through your lens on your a6xxx nor your a7xxx ... same as your phone image, just video feed.


Right. Thought so. Just being cautious. Thanks.
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