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May 2, 2020 17:37:39   #
Properframe wrote:
I use a red dot for Spring training to help smooth panning and tracking. It is easier and develops good technique. I do not use it in the filed because it IS DISTANCE DEPENDENT. If I dial in and adjust the sight for 50 yards and then a Heron at 15 yards the dot will not be aligned with the camera focal point.
I have been meaning to test it to see what the variance is for every ten yards to see if it is material.
Here is something explaining the angle issue and I see someone else responded they use CONSTANT method. I can't imagine always aligning the dot 3 inches OVER the focal spot but like anything I guess it could be learned. Photography is easier as you can discard wind and gravity issues.
Unfortunately the accompanying images did not copy. The Zero is an angle that meets at the target. Constant offset is like a set of train tracks that never meet.
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What is “Zero?”

Generally, shooters will zero their weapon sights – whether it is a laser, an optical sight or something else – for a certain distance. What does this mean? Picture the trajectory of the projectile as it leaves the muzzle of a firearm. Disregarding bullet drop, wind, atmospheric conditions and things of that nature, the trajectory should be roughly along a line parallel to the center axis of the barrel. Ideally, to target where the projectile will impact, the shooter would want to sight along that trajectory.

The line of sight for a scope or iron sights is a straight line between the shooter’s eye and one or more points in the sight. That straight line is a bit easier to visualize for a laser sight. Since sights are typically placed above, below or to the side of a firearm’s barrel rather than looking down it, something called parallax is introduced. Due to this offset, the line of sight and the center axis of the barrel are almost – but not quite – parallel. At some point downrange, where the two lines intersect, is where the sights are zeroed.

Pistol Zero

The image above shows this concept. Zeroing a sight for a certain distance is easy enough to understand and accomplish but, as you can see, at ranges other than the distance for which the sight is zeroed, the point of impact (POI) will vary from the point of aim (POA). In this example at closer ranges the round would impact above the laser dot while rounds fired at longer distances would impact below the laser dot. The further the target is away from the zero distance, the further the POA will be from the POI. Greater distance between the center axis of the barrel and the sight will increase the severity of the POA vs POI difference because the angle between the two lines will be greater.

An Alternative – Constant Offset

There is an alternative configuration for laser sights that is popular with some shooters that eliminates the problem of the sights only being accurate at one distance. The downside is that they are not entirely accurate at any distance. The upside, however, is that the inaccuracy is the same at all distances (again, disregarding wind, bullet drop, etc.).

Pistol Parallel

The image above shows the constant offset scheme in which the line of sight is parallel to the barrel’s center axis. You can see that the line of sight never intersects the line of the bullet trajectory, so the projectile will never impact where the laser dot is. However, since the lines are parallel, regardless of the distance the point of impact will be the same distance, h, above the laser dot. Of course, in the real world, there is bullet drop so gravity will eventually pull the projectile down across the laser beam. According to this ballistic chart, assuming a 2″ distance between the barrel axis and the laser aperture, that will happen somewhere after 50 yards (150 feet) – much, much farther than the average defensive firearm situation which happens between 0 and 21 feet. At these distances, bullet drop is less than bullet diameter.
I use a red dot for Spring training to help smooth... (show quote)


I Never considered a CONSTANT Offset, however, maybe with practice it would be something you could adjust to on the fly. It has some merit IMHO.

Thank You for the insight
-Gary
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May 2, 2020 17:06:03   #
wdross wrote:
That is were the differences between the gun site and the dot sights are. No distance calibration and can be view from a fairly wide angle. I comes down to what one is willing to pay for. Absolutely nothing wrong with your setup. You have my vote for doing it yourself.


Oh there IS a distance and windage adjustment, but you need an allen wrench and the time necessary to make adjustments. Considering the parallax effect, I dont think ANYTHING can be perfect or quickly adjustable unless it was actually looking thru the lens somehow.

-Gary
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May 2, 2020 14:11:13   #
billnikon wrote:
Some good thoughts. I personally would not attempt to shoot a bird at 150 yards or even 100 yards. The result would mean extensive cropping and quality image loss.
I shoot much closer than that, my max. range would be 100 feet. I like to put as many pixels on the bird as I can. That is why I do not need this gadget.
However, I do appreciate those that like and use them. But for me, they are ineffective at best.


In ideal conditions I agree with you totally. Although sometimes (See pic) you have to shoot under less than ideal circumstances. 925' for this picture.


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May 2, 2020 14:01:05   #
Blaster34 wrote:
Concur about the parallax Gary but if the sight and the lens are calibrated at whatever distance, presumably within the preferred range you'd be shooting (~100 yds) and the reflex dot is placed anywhere within the focus area, the camera should acquire focus. Again we're not talking about 1 moa as we would for shooting sports, 3, 4 or greater moa would seem appropriate for cameras....seems for less than $100 I could get the A-S mount, the Picatinny Rail and a decent holographic sight and try it....Cheers
Concur about the parallax Gary but if the sight an... (show quote)


You are 100% Correct. If you're distance is calibrated to 100 yards, and (within some tolerance) you aim at a bird in that range, the red dot sights are extremely accurate. Plus the best thing is they give you some situation awareness. But what happens when that bird just appears at 50 yards, or even 150 yards when you're dialed in at 100? That's where I find the red dot lacking. Its just not something you can adjust immediately, and its hard to compensate by the "seat of your pants" on a moments notice.

If I were you I'd do it, but don't expect it to be a perfect solution to BIF photography.

-Gary
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May 2, 2020 13:31:52   #
Blaster34 wrote:
Thanks Gary, glad its working well for you. My question is that the reticle is just a point is on the glass and if calibrated to the focus mode, ie, center focus, flexible spot, the distance shouldn't be an issue since the focus point of the camera and sight reticle are always aligned (as long as you don't move the flexible spot to the extremes).


One would think that's true, but my experience has been otherwise. A good example would be this: Hold your finger a foot or so from your eye. Close your right eye and look, now close your left eye and look. The point jumps correct? That's because of the difference in the center point of your left vs right eyes. The amount of that Jump changes as the object moves nearer or further away. Now sight a doorknob 30 feet away. It doesn't appear to jump as much.

The same thing Happens with your Red dot sight, only the difference is the center point is higher and lower (not left and right like the example of your eyes.) The camera is looking thru the lens which is usually a few inches Lower than your Red Dot. Therefore distance DOES affect where your focus point really is. Especially if your trying to focus on a birds eye at 850mm.

My advice is try it. It works, it helps, but its not the "end all" perfect solution to BIF. It's just another tool in the bag, but it doesn't make every shot a keeper.

I Suspect if you had a point and shoot or rangefinder type camera where your not actually looking thru the lens itself, the rangefinder viewer would be physically closer to the red dot sight and therefore have a lesser effect on distance.

-Gary
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May 2, 2020 12:13:48   #
Blaster34 wrote:
Question; Does anyone own or has anyone used/experience in using a holograph/reflex sight attached to the hot shoe for BIF's? I've seen a few articles on the net where some of the photographers are using the subjects sights for BIF's. Understanding the sight would have to be calibrated before any photographic session but that seems a very minor nuisance. Curious.....Pro/Con's, gimmick, useful, I would appreciate any input.


I Made mine from a $12.00 Red Dot Sight, and a Picatinny rail & Cold Shoe mount I purchased off eBay.
Yes, you have to make adjustments to the sight initially, but the most difficult thing (to me at least) Distance accuracy changes. If you're using it for BIF, and trying to get directly on the eye of the bird good luck. Left and Right accuracy is perfect, but remember the sight isn't in line with the center of the lens, its usually a few inches higher and therefore distance changes things a lot sometimes. Now if I spent hundreds of dollars for this, I'd be disappointed. But I have less than $20.00 in mine, and it works perfect as long as I shoot Birds within the distance I've calibrated the sight for.

-Gary
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Apr 16, 2020 18:39:25   #
Voss wrote:
Or is it? I've gotten this response a couple times. The only things I know of that it represents are "victory" and "peace," but I don't feel either of those here. Is there some other meaning out there?


Voss,

If I'm not mistaken, he's visually indicating he's going to "Snip" some part of your anatomy if you take another picture. (Just My Guess)

-Gary
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Apr 14, 2020 21:09:40   #
Guyserman wrote:
I'm sure there's a good one out there but it escapes me!


Look Out! Cowboy wannabe comin' thru
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Apr 8, 2020 00:17:36   #
frankraney wrote:
Good shot......can't s I her in Fresno, to cloudy.


Thanks Frank, It was absolutely HUGE when it began to rise, but I didn't have any type of shot because of trees & houses being in the way. Just a few mins later, after it was above the obstructions it seemed to shrink 200% or more. Its a shame I wasn't in a better spot initially.
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Apr 7, 2020 23:42:35   #
Merlin1300 wrote:
While on vacation in Ireland several years ago, a Gnome stowed away in my Wife's luggage and set up housekeeping in her back yard herb garden. As we were busy doing 'Spring cleaning' today - the Gnome got out his rake, borrowed a bit of our mulch and spruced up his yard.


Well its about time, them dang Gnomes are inherently lazy. You gotta keep on them all the time ! He did a good job though.
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Apr 7, 2020 23:36:02   #
I Had to take a picture of the pink moon tonight. Although it doesn't look real pink.


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Mar 9, 2020 20:11:41   #
I Only have one word....... WoW.

-Gary
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Mar 3, 2020 14:57:18   #
waynpete wrote:
Spotted at a Fly In event.


If the Tail Number is N32RN, it says its a Christen Model "Eagle II"
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Feb 25, 2020 19:54:05   #
Saleavitt10 wrote:
Considering setting up a Raid system to store my growing photography collection. I’d like to get rid of the multiple external hard drives that currently hold the collection. I’d love to hear from those of you that use a Raid. Why you chose the one you have, etc.

Thanks in advance.


Like others have echoed, a RAID box doesn't negate the need for an offsite backup. I Know... after the fire in Paradise, you couldn't even recognize the burnt out shell of the RAID Array. I Lost every picture I ever had. Don't make the same mistake I did.

Gary
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Feb 23, 2020 12:08:18   #
I'm just content knowing what it is now. It was bugging the "you know what" out of me. I do however agree its 99% likely to be an antenna of some sorts. I just hope its a good one for his sake, he's got a lot of them to sell.
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