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Feb 21, 2024 23:13:06   #
MountainDave wrote:
You already have a great camera. Why not invest in better glass? The R7 <snip> If you watched Wegener's videos, you already know the 100-500 is a better lens overall. However, I was very impressed with the performance of the 200-800, especially for the money. I shoot a lot of small birds and rarely need more than 500mm on my R5. Long shots result in atmospheric distortion and haze, so I find them unappealing anyway.
I have a 1.4X but seldom use it. The R5/100-500 combo weighs 5 lbs and I can carry it for miles comfortably. The R5/200-800 is probably around 7 lbs. I also use the 100-200 range quite a bit. The eye detect and tracking is like cheating. Almost every shot is precisely focused. It also has a short minimum focus distance and….
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You make a compelling case for the RF100-500.
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Feb 21, 2024 22:08:07   #
robertjerl wrote:
Well, I already own the R7 & RF 100-500L. They work great together but my R7 with my EF to RF mount adapter on my 150-600 also takes great images when mounted on a tripod and I do my part.

If money is a problem for you, I would be tempted to say get the R7 and an adapter for your Sigma. I am going on the assumption you want to do birds, wildlife, planes, sports etc. that call for a "Long Reach". Then start saving your pennies for the RF 100-800L.

Oh, do you own an RF body now? You mentioned R5 and R6 so I don't know if you own one of them or are just thinking about it.

What gear are you usig now?
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Money isn’t a problem per se, but I just set a limit for myself not to spend over $2,000 (additional out of pocket). Your assumption is correct that this will be mainly for birds and to a lesser extent general wild life. As I mentioned in another reply, the Sigma is good but I’m sure the keeper rate would be better with one of the RF mounts.
My current gear (for birds) is the R5 with the Sigma 150-600.
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Feb 21, 2024 16:37:04   #
MtManMD wrote:


What is the current shortcomings of your 150-600mm? It is a really good focal range. If it's not broke, don't fix it!


Well, probably the main thing is, while it does take sharp pictures, I find that the keeper rate isn’t what you would call super high. I have heard that the RF lenses are much better at auto focus and tracking. So I don’t know if I would call that a shortfall, but it would be nice to have a better keeper rate when I’m shooting for example, birds in flight.

Weight is another factor, though less important. The sigma lens is not super heavy but it’s also not super light. I can handhold it but it does get tiring after a while. Of course, the 200–800 would be even worse in this regard.
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Feb 21, 2024 10:45:32   #
Jimmy T wrote:
From experience, I can only address my Canon R5 and the Canon RF 100-500, I have not used the other combinations referenced.
I am very happy with this combination handheld. Handheld it will focus sharply on a groundhog's eye at 100-150 yards w/o any problems or a tripod.
Since I am 77 y.o. I usually shoot at higher shutter speeds.
If routinely, further reach is required, I would consider the Canon Extender RF 1.4 or 2X: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=canon+extender+rf+2x+teleconverter
We do have a UHH member who uses a Canon Extender RF 2X with great success.
Personally, I crop and process using Topaz Phot AI "Upscale" as required, since I rarely shoot birds.
The 100-500 OR Can TELECONVERTERS Make The DIFFERENCE? Canon RF 200-800 vs RF 100-500 Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBSnE1qAxI0&t=637s
Best Wishes,
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Thanks for the links. I actually had already watched the Jan Wegener comparison of the 100-500 vs 200-800.
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Feb 21, 2024 10:41:01   #
mikegreenwald wrote:
I've had the Sigma in the past, but sold it because it was slow and clumsy to use, though certainly a sharp lens when used on a tripod. I have the Canon RF 100-500 now, and overall it's a great lens, though the f7.1 is sometimes a handicap.
If I were to make the choice today, I'd buy the Canon 200-800. I'm well covered in the shorter focal lengths, and don't feel strongly enough to make the change.
Still, it boils down to what your usual targets are, and how quickly you can change gears between manufacturers when working quickly in the field.
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When you say if you were to make the choice today, do you mean you'd get the RF200-800 instead of the RF100-500? My biggest hesitation with the RF200-800 is the small aperture. If I sold the Sigma for the RF100-500, I'd only be giving up a 1/3 stop but also be giving up 100mm of reach. If f/7.1 is a handicap, I can only imagine f/9 is a much bigger handicap. I like to shoot birds at the Bosque Del Apache and some of the best shots occur in sunrise or sunset conditions. I'm wondering how high I'd have to crank the ISO to compensate.
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Feb 21, 2024 10:30:33   #
billnikon wrote:
If your shooting primarily wildlife, sale the Sigma and purchase the 200-800. And make sure you shoot in lots of light.


If I were to get the RF200-800, I would not need to sell the Sigma.
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Feb 21, 2024 10:28:22   #
goldstar46 wrote:
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Dear Curious..

I own both. Go for opt 2.
... Canon is the better lens

When I go out, I have not taken the Sigma in 2 years


Cheers
Goldstar46
George Veazey
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Thanks! That's a valuable data point.
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Feb 21, 2024 10:27:50   #
Canisdirus wrote:
I'm sure Canon limits third party lenses performance in their top tier cameras.

Native will almost always bring out the best in a lens.

They restrict them...on purpose...so does Sony...and Nikon...it's their sandbox after all.


That's likely true. My Sigma does pretty well on the R5, but I'm sure there would be a higher keeper rate with a native RF lens.
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Feb 21, 2024 10:26:01   #
robertjerl wrote:
Well, I don't have the Sigma 150-600, I have the Tamron second generation(had the first before that) and kept it, I do have an RP* & R7 and the 100-500L, it is a great lens. Plus I still have some EF bodies and the 100-400L with RF adapter. My 150-600 spends most of its life mounted on a tripod for shots out the back door of birds at the feeders in my yard.


So, if you were in m y shoes, given you have a "similar" Tamron, and you have the RF100-500L, if you were in my shoes, which of the three options would you choose? (Assuming you had to give up the Tamron to get the RF100-500)
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Feb 21, 2024 10:19:26   #
tcthome wrote:
Under $2k, 100-500rf, =USED? I haven't seen it sell for that price, even on sale.


I wasn't as clear as I could have been. I'm talking about under $2k "additional" out of pocket. So, if I sold the Sigma for, say $700, then my "additional out of pocket" would be around $1900 (or maybe less if I went with a Canon refurbished).
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Feb 20, 2024 11:32:15   #
Without listing all the specs of each (most Canon shooters probably already know the specs), if you have or had the Sigma 150-600 with an R5 or R6, which of these three options would you choose, if you wanted to keep expenditures under $2k) and why?

1. Keep the Sigma and use the money to buy a R7 as a second body
2. Sell the Sigma and put the money towards the RF100-500
3. Keep the Sigma, don't buy a second body, but instead buy the RF 200-800

Which would you choose and why? Curious.
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Feb 14, 2024 16:23:36   #
Howard5252 wrote:
Perhaps I was not clear; I am asking for suggestions for a solar filter to place onto the lens of my camera.

The one I used is this;

https://formatt-hitechusa.com/products/firecrest-ultra-neutral-density-irnd-solar-eclipse-filter?variant=43967732089081

Note this filter will not add any additional tint to the image. The sun is actually white and this lens will yield a white disk
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Feb 14, 2024 08:38:55   #
I’ve had good luck with these folks:

https://bluemooncamera.com/
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Feb 13, 2024 10:58:54   #
Howard5252 wrote:
It makes no difference, it would not be a good idea to point a lens at the sun without a solar filter on it. I am looking for suggestions for a filter for the front of my lens.


Yes, it does make a difference. You said, "I need something I can look at the sun thru the camera viewfinder with." You were specifically asking about a filter that would allow you to "look through the viewfinder." The reason I asked whether you have a EVF (electronic viewfinder) or a rear LCD screen was NOT to suggest in any way that you should point your camera at the sun without a filter. I didn't say that at all and sorry if you inferred that.

The reason I asked about whether you have an EVF or a rear LCD view finder is because, with the filter I use (Firecrest 16-stop Eclipse filter) you can safely point the camera at the sun AND can view the sun on a rear LCD screen OR an EVF. BUT, if you have an optical viewfinder, you should NOT look through that with this filter nor should you use this filter (Firecrest) to look through it directly at the sun. I hope that makes sense.

By the way I shot the 2017 eclipse with this filter but I ONLY looked at the sun on the back of my LCD screen (WITH the filter attached until totality, at which time I removed the filter). Because my camera at the time (5D Mark IV) had an optical view finder, I did NOT look at the sun via the viewfinder, only via the rear LCD screen. My current camera is the R5 which has an EVF (but I'll still probably only view the sun via the rear screen as it's a lot easier).

Me shooting the 2017 Eclipse from a ranch near Glenrock, WY


My composite total eclipse image from the 2017 eclipse.

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Feb 12, 2024 22:12:53   #
Howard5252 wrote:
I need something I can look at the sun thru the camera viewfinder with. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Does your camera have an EVF or rear LCD screen?
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