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Dec 30, 2014 01:52:27   #
Photographer Jim wrote:
Well, once again I think I'll hop in and make a few comments. I'll start by saying that I have some very strong biases (and I believe in owning one's biases) when it comes to composition. My strongest is a striving for simplicity and economy. I try to keep in mind a quote by Antione de Saint-Exupery, "Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away".

I believe this idea needs to be applied to "environmental" compositions as well. If the environment is a key element to "understanding" an image, then its inclusion must be very carefully controlled. I think it can be very easy to fall into a trap of thinking that because we wish to convey a sense of place and time we can just add a lot of the surrounding environment, to the extent that we weaken the composition, and then convince ourselves that it's OK because we wanted an "environmental" composition. And more importantly, whatever we do decide to include, must be included in a way which maintains the overall balance of the image.

I think bebo's two shots taken in the blacksmith shop (both of which I like, BTW) can help illustrate where my thinking is going here. In the first, the environment of the blacksmith shop IS the subject, and the blacksmith is simply a contributing element, carrying no more "weight" than the rest of the objects in the image. In the cropped version the smithy IS the subject, and the small part of the shop we can see is the subordinate element used to establishes place and/or time.

My point is (finally, you say), that when thinking about environmental compositions it is key to consciously think about which type of shot you are going for, and include as much, and only as much, of the surrounding environment needed to accomplish that goal.

OK, just for fun, how does this crop fit into the idea? Illustration? Contradiction? Something altogether different?
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Thank you for the kind words about my Smithy, PJ.

As to your photo, as I understand what you say, this is an illustration of what you describe. It is elegant and simple as is. (I do like objects to be anchored a little tighter, so I might remove some (half) of the floor below the bench.)

Bebo
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Dec 30, 2014 00:18:04   #
Gotta love it. Her hands are beautiful here.
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Dec 30, 2014 00:12:59   #
It is good to hear your joy and enthusiasm. This site has wonderful members to advise you.
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Dec 29, 2014 23:45:56   #
Moxie wrote:
honeysuckle bloom


elegant
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Dec 29, 2014 23:39:01   #
Nightski wrote:
Great shot .. i'm sure his "mother" loved it! :-) He looks younger than my sons .. lol


He was definitely younger than mine - so it made it not too creepy while I tried to find him. He was a good sport.
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Dec 29, 2014 23:36:26   #
Nightski wrote:
This is a homecoming activity. The senior girls play the junior girls in a game of touch football. Senior boys coach the senior girls and Junior boys coach the junior girls. I think the coaches are all football players themselves. It's hysterical. Even though it's a fun activity, the kids are quite serious about it. I had never shot a sporting event and I thought this would be a good one for my first try. Here is a shot of the most athletic senior girls on the team. I had a heck of a time keeping up with this girl. She was amazing!
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Wow! I don't usually say "Fierce" but these girls are. It's fun to nail it like you did here.
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Dec 29, 2014 23:28:38   #
Nightski wrote:
Shot number one certainly has a little something for the ladies ... very nice, bebo. :-)


LOL Ms. Nightski - that was NOT what I had in mind here. However, here is one "for the ladies" - seen in NYC - composite by y.t. onto times square!
I took me several phone calls, but I did locate this adorable policeman and sent him an 8 X 10. He was very nice and said his Mother did not have one of him in uniform. This was taken from the "hop on hop off" bus. He was unaware!


8-)

Christopher Lambert look-alike!

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Dec 29, 2014 22:37:33   #
SharpShooter wrote:
Bebo, I know, maybe just a bad joke since you had a pretty good shot of their b*tts! Sometimes I get a little carried away. I'll try to behave myself, butt you have no idea how hard that can be! :lol:
SS

Edit: Bebo, when I responded your pic had not come through yet. Yes, #2 is a very nice shot. That is what I mean by cropping. It brings out and enlarges all the detail and the shot becomes more graphic and has impact because of it. That's what I meant by viewing everything on 50%. The important elements are still there. Now we can actually see his face and the wrinkles in his clothes! Very nice job. I also like the colors you used. ;-)
SS
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This preferred was my edited version that is 5 years old.
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Dec 29, 2014 22:27:51   #
ediesaul wrote:
Great colors, composition, story. Just plain great.


Edie - Your check is in the mail. :thumbup: The lighting that day (3 PM) was just perfect and there were very few people in line so I tried to put it all together. I'm so glad you like it.
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Dec 29, 2014 21:21:54   #
SharpShooter wrote:
Bebo, your first shot, maybe for the Ladies. Couldn't you find some girls to shoot?
Shot #2 is VERY nice. Lots of detail to help out!! ;-)
SS


I don't understand what you are saying re: shot #1 - this maintenance crew had no "girls".

I really prefer this cleaner version of #2

The Smithy

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Dec 29, 2014 21:12:17   #
Nightski Re: Powder Puff Coach - This photo certainly is thought-provoking - I have viewed it several times - he certainly has a cool demeanor.
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Dec 29, 2014 20:56:01   #
"Environmental"

Logan Circle, Philadelphia maintenance


The Biltmore

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Dec 29, 2014 20:36:10   #
minniev wrote:
thanks. Didja notice that the monk has his little cell phone tucked into his robe? I always love the little things, that's what gets me in trouble. I see a little thing...then another little thing..and I want to keep them all. I am a photo element hoarder.


minniev - I think you coined a new term - so funny - PEH - a new dysfunction.
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Dec 29, 2014 15:53:37   #
Nightski wrote:
I don't think I could take the subject out of one of the environment pics I posted and still have a shot. :-(

Another try! sigh!


SS: do the subjects have to come out??
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Dec 29, 2014 15:51:46   #
minniev wrote:
I could definitely take the Russian fish skinner out of the photo of Deception Point Bridge and still have a photo. Not so sure about the young lady in the dance studio, it would be boring. Where I always get slammed in critique is for including TOO MUCH environment, and not honing in on just the single subject.

Here's one of Trap Day in Maine and one of the Kuekenhof gardens in Amsterdam. In the second one I used focus to try to isolate the subject while keeping the background. The first one is "everything in" corner to corner but trying to hem them up with their traps.
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Both beautiful - each in their own way. The colors and mood in the fishermen photo are very appealing to me. I also photographed a monk in Holland - they certainly make for colorful subject matter.
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