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Jan 2, 2014 15:36:52   #
artBob wrote:
Why would you take an unexceptional beach shot? Well, perhaps you didn't. Perhaps your unconscious saw something unique. Perhaps my example or some other aspect of this shot was what stimulated your mind/shutter.

1. Tried various crops that included the out of focus boat and the woman. (I think about 20). Settled on one that excluded the distractions (hat) or difficult to balance compositionally (water under knee, blue swimsuit).
2. Sharpened and saturated the boat to add emphasis to the contrast with the woman (sleeping? gazing at the boat and wishing?)
3. Tried various combinations of burning/dodging/(de-)saturating to bring out the dynamics between head and boat.
4. Burned the guy's leg to provide clarity of intent and story.
Why would you take an unexceptional beach shot? We... (show quote)


Wow, I missed this perspective. You did a really nice job with what there is to work with. Guess I need to study a picture from a different perspective.
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Jan 1, 2014 20:44:37   #
Graham Smith wrote:
The light is coming from behind my right shoulder so that side of the larger man is is shadow, to illuminate it would be look. It was shot, by natural light in a very dim auction barn with strong, very contrasty sunlight through small windows. It is not a portrait but a Street type picture of two farmers intently watching the proceedings in the auction ring. It is not posed so the background, which was very dark, cannot be controlled.

As too the eyes, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "did the eyes not convert well in B/W?". Are they too dark? Not bright enough? I did lighten the whites somewhat but to go any further with that would give them a very unnatural spooky stare.

Thanks for commenting,

Graham
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Maybe it's my monitor, vision, or something I need to learn but some pictures show the eyes clearer. But also, since you stated available light etc... That would explain it. Now, since I know more of the scene I believe you did a wonderful job with what you were working with. The lack of background etc... Clears up all the items I mentioned. I assume a slit second later the larger gentleman probably also looked at the camera.
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Jan 1, 2014 20:02:41   #
Dragonfly, Man these are fast


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Jan 1, 2014 19:59:52   #
Just a flower snap shot.


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Jan 1, 2014 19:24:23   #
Graham Smith wrote:
The guys leg, to me, is over dominant. The picture would work better if the girl (or guy) wasn't present, she makes his outline too muddled. The boat should go too as it adds nothing. But his knee is the real killer, you have too look at it but it is not interesting.

Graham

Many thanks Graham. The knee does protrude quite a lot. If the sailboat was in better focus would it be better? The sand and surf do pretty much tell the story so it is a extra that should be removed.
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Jan 1, 2014 19:19:19   #
Heirloom Tomato wrote:
Red spots under the bridge are navigation boat warning lights. Red spot on bridge is a vehicle. Why remove?


I see. I thought they were possibly a camera pixel.
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Jan 1, 2014 19:09:19   #
chaser48 wrote:
Funny you mentioned that............I am kinda leaning the same way. :thumbup: :thumbup: The pictures have no PP. These are straight out of the camera. I like to keep it real simple so try to shoot right or real close to right the first time. :-D


Per our PM conversation I will post the edit. I found a red hotspot on the bridge and removed, removed the cars, left the crop that removed the sign, darkened and contrasted the sky, add exposure to the water, removed some light spots on the underside of the bridge and pillars, tweaked the saturation, contrast, sharpening and adjusted the tint slightly. Though I do see the concrete posts need more work to be smoother.


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Jan 1, 2014 13:51:22   #
Nightski wrote:
Nice sharp focus on your subject, perfect exposure. The in focus sand fading to the soft sand accentuates your subject. You're right, the crop is a little tight. I would have like to see the whole shadow in the frame. Overall, I think it conveys the idea of a lazy day at the beach. And boy, can I feel the warmth. Of course where I live, the temps have not reached above 0 Fahrenheit for days, so this looks very inviting. :-)


I wonder if I clone some sand in the shadow it would remove the distraction?
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Jan 1, 2014 13:18:49   #
As stated, the larger man's head is a little dark on the backside. As a portrait I would think both would need to be looking at the camera. I personally would like to see some farm type Atmosphere in the background. I wonder, did the eyes not convert well in B/W? Most say the eyes are the most important part but do not appear that well. Correct me if needed.
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Jan 1, 2014 13:10:41   #
dirtpusher wrote:
you on wrong side of recliners. lol


I have thought of that many times. Wish I could retake this. Next time I will ask the people to swap places.
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Jan 1, 2014 13:06:44   #
I'm glad you post your photo's here. The challenge to find something and the discovery of what is found is very informative. Keep posting!!
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Jan 1, 2014 13:03:14   #
Just a snap-shot of a typical "Day at the Beach". All Edits allowed!!! Cropping I think is a little tight. Do you think the DOF is good or not on the sailboat in the distance?? Are colors a little to vivid for this scene? I did have to remove a chair at their feet and a pole in the middle and straighten the horizon so there is no more room to expand the scene unless I stretch it, so how good a job did I do. The usual composition, exposure, focus. I really want you to tear this up and critique this photo, so harshness is totally allowed but explain your reasoning, Please.


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Dec 30, 2013 22:41:24   #
photoninja1 wrote:
I like the big cats too, but I'm a bit confused about the title. This isn't a lion!


LOL, correct, Cheetah, maybe I should stick with big cats, so far I've called a Cheetah a lion, a tiger a lion. Boy, I need to watch it huh!! :thumbup: :shock:
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Dec 29, 2013 23:32:18   #
abc1234 wrote:
Here is what prompted my private exchange with deej.

I use a web-based exif viewer, Jeffrey's Exif Viewer, that reveals much more information than usual. One of the helpful things is depth-of-field.

"At 6.7m, with a depth of field of about 12cm, (from about 5.9cm before the focus point to about 6.0cm after)"
Translated, the camera was 22' from the lion and the depth-of-field was 5"

"28-300 mm f/3.5-5.6
Shot at 300 mm
Auto exposure, Shutter priority AE, 1/160 sec, f/6.3, ISO 200, Compensation: -1/3"

Too bad we cannot have a depth-of-field table built-in into our cameras because in this instance, focusing on anything other than eyes as has been pointed out will cause the face, the center of interest, to be out of focus. Knowing this, I would have stopped down further and been more careful as to where I focused. This would have been at the expense of a longer exposure or higher ISO. When shooting a moving object, we usually do not have the time to think this through.

Deej, I hope this helps you and keep shooting those lions.
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Thanks a lot for the information. Grasping and using DOF scales or at least the knowledge of how to apply them is very crucial for many images. I have learned a lot from all who posted. Bmac and Lighthouse mentioned it and ABC1234 confirmed it by using the scale and his knowledge of photography. That's the great thing about this forum that Nightski and Countrymama monitor. Many thanks for what they do too! Believe me, I will be using and applying DOF scales in the near future.
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Dec 29, 2013 21:57:41   #
Nightski wrote:
This is an excellent observation. I saw it, but it didn't register. Great leading lines. Good eye, JRB!


The napkins create a leading line to the men and is reinforced with the table cloth. The one stray napkin acts like a distraction but plays a part in fooling you by not realizing you followed the lines into the scene. My, my, Graham, you are quite a photographer. I'm learning with your captures they need to really be studied and with all the comments it helps to see the depth of each one. The one thing I notice is the light just over the mans shoulder almost creates a halo on his head. Very minor, unavoidable and I am digging for issues with my limited skills.
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