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Apr 27, 2021 11:02:22   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Exquisite work, Keni. Great to see you again!


Thanks Linda! I know I haven't been a regular poster this past year but I have tried to stop in and at least read through the posts. So many talented folks. I like the changes that were made to the two post processing sections.
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Apr 27, 2021 10:55:53   #
Thank you!
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Apr 26, 2021 20:36:08   #
A weekend wasn't long enough here.


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Apr 26, 2021 16:58:14   #
I am so excited! I finally upgraded from my little Rebel T6 to a Canon 80D and I couldn't be happier. I added a macro tube for this shot and processed this in PS and Color-Efx. I recently purchased the NIK collection and I am learning to use it but I can already see it is an excellent tool.


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Mar 12, 2021 16:51:22   #
Thank you all for your assistanced with these. Here are three of the photos of my friend. Please view them in download. She has not seen them yet so I can still make changes if needed. I know they are not sharp. As I mentioned she has been very ill and it has taken its tole. I used a lot of clarity reduction and some healing. She also wants them printed on canvas. I promised her I would show her at her best while remaining true to who she is. Your comments would be very much appreciated.


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Mar 4, 2021 19:11:08   #
So today I changed to my 55mm lens and used loop lighting (main light almost directly in front and overhead) with a backlight. Not as dramatic as yesterday with the Rembrandt lighting but more flattering I think and hopefully not too dark with just a little bit of shadow on the right side of the face to give it some depth and interest. I just wished she would have smiled!


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Mar 4, 2021 17:56:19   #
robertjerl wrote:
Keni, I for one approve of the restriction lifting - note just because they are not now telling people they "must" follow the protocols doesn't mean the more intelligent and prudent "won't" follow them on their own.
Think of it as an "IQ" test or Darwin at work. Survival of the fittest/most intelligent. I for one believe that one of the main reasons for there seeming to be a larger % of "stupid" people today is that modern society protects them from fatal results of their stupidity and keeps alive those who in the past would have been killed off by Darwin's Law so they survive long enough to produce more of their kind.

50 years teaching 1st Grade - tell your Aunt I salute her! That is truly outstanding.

I thought my 35 years of Jr & Sr High was pretty good. Actually I had planned to teach about 10 years longer until our youngest graduated from college but health problems hit and since I was already at the top of the scale for retirement pension my wife (Surgical Nurse/OR Charge Nurse) spent 6 months talking me into retirement.

I was resisting but one day in April on the way to work I got sick and had to pull over on the side of the road for 5 minutes. (diabetes and stress) I got to the High School and walked into the office to pick up my mail and sign in. The Principal was behind the counter so as I signed the book I looked at him and told him I had decided to retire the last day of the semester (June 29). He smiled, shook my hand and told the office manager to put the paperwork in my mail box so I could fill it out later that day.

All day I told my students what I had decided and just kept feeling less stress and better as the day went by. Some of them got together and the next day told me that in spite of the rules the last day was going to be an all day pot-luck and retirement party with all their friends who had been my students being invited also. Even some who had graduated showed up. And that last day a group stayed when school ended at lunch, helped take all my pictures off the wall, pack my stuff and load my SUV. When I drove off they were sitting on the steps finishing off the food left from the day.
After almost 14 years I still miss the students and teaching history - not the commute, paperwork or faculty meetings. Just teaching the students and telling them stories. I spell it history and was very good at making it a story, my students and even my wife told me so. Once she had a Candy Stripper who was one of my students and said she was having trouble in my class, it was "too hard". My wife told her I was her husband and "Just ask him about what you don't understand and then listen to his stories. You will understand it when he is done."

Sorry to ramble so long, today is one of those days I really miss being in front of a class and telling stories about history.
Keni, I for one approve of the restriction lifting... (show quote)


Robert thank you for sharing your story and I understand. My aunt loves teaching her babies but the system and frustration dealing with the parents, especially when they had to switch to online classes, has been stressful for her as well. At the beginning of the school year all of her kids were at home and she was teaching virtually with little to know direction from the district. They had to figure it out on their own. She works in a low income area were many of the parents speak little to no english, don't have computers and/or they have to work and can't or won't supervise or push the kids to pay attention. Now part of her kids are in class and part of them are online at the same time. She was not very "technically" inclined. She just got her first smart phone a couple of years ago and only because her old flip phone finally died but she has worked hard this past year to get up to speed on the technology. I know she thought very seriously about retiring this year but she hung in there. She will be 74 in a couple of months. She is my hero.
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Mar 4, 2021 12:13:22   #
MrT wrote:
I would put up a hair light to give separation between her and the background. It is to dark for me but I like it otherwise. As Thomas pointed out very elegant looking. I am normally a color guy. I need to rethink that. Good luck and have fun.


Thank you MrT. Although my model here has light hair, my friend has dark hair. I think a hair light is a good idea for her with the black backround.
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Mar 4, 2021 12:03:16   #
charlienow wrote:
Keni. I like the portrait although it is way to dark for my taste. For my taste I like what Robert jerk did.

Fergmark brought out the skin tones rather nicely.

And of course Thomas did an excellent rendering.

Good luck. And I am looking forward to seeing your friends portrait posted

Chuck


Thank you Chuck. I am just a hobbiest but I want to do this right for my friend and her family. I will post the results after the shoot next week.
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Mar 4, 2021 12:01:17   #
Thomas902 wrote:
Keni such a lovely rendering of this enchanting mature Princess... superb hair styling... chic ear decor... albeit the choice of plaid wardrobe isn't in harmony with the "elegance" latent within... moving forward please consider plaids for causal candid only, k?

btw, asking for assistance in a photography forum is likely going to generate somewhat narrow minded responses... a.k.a. Maslow's hammer... Commercial portraiture is a team effort involving hair stylist, makeup artist, wardrobe styling etc. The photographer is only one player on this team no more and no less important in all other players. My credentials? I worked for "Glamour Shots" as a makeup artist at the bottom end and as the Key Makeup Artist on many high end Beauty Genre sessions. Enough said.

To answer your query I'm sharing with you some of the wisdom I've gleaned over the years. As other "Photographers" have previously mentioned you've not exposing this capture correctly... The tonal range is compressed nearly entirely into the low half of range. See below... A 30 second tweak in Photoshop brought back much of the missing range albeit at the dear price of stretching data way beyond practical limits... Had this been a commercial shoot the client would have rejected it and you would have to re-shoot it and eat the expense... experience is a brutal teacher..

From your web portal it is obvious you've been in the game for a while...
https://kenievansphoto.myportfolio.com/portraits-2

Your lighting setup is perfectly germane to the narrative here only the exposure and composition are an issue...
As for composition? This Princess' hand is a distraction... In portraiture the face should always dominate and be closest to the lens... few if any exceptions work well... Since there is no EXIF data in this image I'm simply guessing your FL is also way too short. This aggravates the perception of her hand being larger than her face. That is to be avoided in portraiture... Even though you have the hand elegantly positioned it is simply way too large... Always have the talent's hand(s) at the same distance as the face... I actually have them position them slight behind their face.

"... My friend, like the my model here has deep lines around her mouth. I want to help diminish them...
btw "Those Lines" are called the NASOLABIAL FOLD... and are typically professionally corrected with concealer makeup product... This is why Bridal Makeup Artist make the big bucks... Wedding photographers are notorious for not doing much in the way of PP corrections... A "Wedding" event is a women's most epic photo shoot of her life... It's got to be right in camera, period... Yes I had to master facial anatomy to obtain my Cosmetologist License in Makeup Artistry. Commercial Makeup Artistry is a Profession... while commercial photography is merely a craft which does not require professional licensing.

I could go on for hours here Keni but I have client work staring me in the face... Sorry, at the end of the day it's all about money... only hobbyist seek recognition and positive reinforcement... As the master poet of my generation once said. "It's either fortune or fame you must chose one or the other though neither are to be what they claim"

Wishing you all the best on your upcoming Princess session... just take care in positioning hands and try to avoid the plaid wardrobe, k?

And please stay safe... I closed my studio on July 1, 2020 because of the pandemic. Not in any hurry to open it again... Still trying to scheduled a vaccine injection... Even though I'm in Group 1A in my state it is still virtually impossible to find a vaccine source in Northern VA... Trust that your sitter has received her Covid19 vaccination.
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Keni such a lovely rendering of this enchanting ma... (show quote)


Thomas I got such a kick out you referring to my model as Princess. She is my aunt and she is the definition of a prim and proper. She has taught 1st grade for over 50 years and still "dresses" every day to the nines. The outfit she is wearing is what she wore to school. She has no plans for retiring any time soon either. She loves "her babies" and has such a generous heart and beautiful soul. She is always willing to sit for me when I need a practice model.

I really appreciate all the feedback. I am aware of your experience and expertice and I was hoping you would comment. Something about her arm was bothering me but I didn't know what. Now I understand and can correct that. Tonight I am going to try it again with the light directly in front and above and try for loop lighting. If I shoot in landscape instead of portrait I can get in a little closer and not have to do as much cropping. I am shooting with a Canon Rebel T6 and a 35mm F2.0 prime lens which on this camera is equivilent to roughly a 55mm. It was shot at F5 ISO 100 SS 1/5. I think the camera angle may have added to the exagerated arm as well. I was shooting slightly above and tilted down. I am also going to try it with my 50mm 1.8. That might help reduce the distortion but the problem with that lens is how small my studio is. I would have to shoot it pretty tight since I am maxed out on how far back I can go. That is one of the reasons why I decided to use the 35mm.

Do you recommend shooting tethered to a laptop? I have the setup to do that. I have also had my first covid vaccine and going for my second this Saturday. Texas allows those of us under 65 years old to get our vaccines if we have an underlying medical condition, which I do. My friend has also had her vaccine as well but I will wear a mask despite our &*^# Govenor lifting all restrictions in Texas. Thanks again for your input.
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Mar 4, 2021 11:30:32   #
joecichjr wrote:
I think this is beautifully done! A fine portrait about which the subject should be extremely satisfied!


Thank you! I don't usually do portraits but I am trying to learn.
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Mar 4, 2021 11:29:25   #
fergmark wrote:
I think you have a very nice portrait here. But, it is far too dark. There is a big difference between editing for viewing on the computer, and for printing. I generally edit more with printing in mind, and I know that things always print darker, if not much darker than what you are seeing on your screen. Fine tuning the values is awfully hard to do without doing a test print or two. Anyway, this is my go at it. The first is pretty much as I think it might look. The second I think might be a better crop, and slightly brighter. None of the highlights are clipped, but sometimes you get a better print when they are. Printing will help you determine the darks.
I think you have a very nice portrait here. But, ... (show quote)


Much appreciated fergmark. I like the brighter version. I recently bought a printer and I am still learning how to use it to get the best results. I will definitely send this out to be printed and not attempt it myself.
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Mar 4, 2021 11:26:05   #
jaymatt wrote:
Your shot is too dark, I believe. Something more along the lines of Robert’s re-do seems more appropriate.


Thank you sir. I need to get out of that bad habit of doing my processing in a dark room.
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Mar 4, 2021 11:24:55   #
flip1948 wrote:
I thought I would try something a little different by bringing up the skin tones a bit while keeping the black background the subject requested and sharpening slightly and cropping a bit.

Sorry for not getting permission first.


Flip1948 I have no problem with anyone reworking my photos on UHH. You always have my permission. That is why I came to this forum in the first place was to learn from others with more experience. I like that you kept the background dark and I appreciate you showing me your version. It definitely help me going forward to see other examples.
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Mar 4, 2021 11:20:57   #
robertjerl wrote:
Actually one of the greatest things about digital is you can produce almost endless variations for the person to pick from.

If you are using Lightroom or another app with the feature make a "virtual copy" of you image, edit and save then for the next version repeat-virtual copy of the OOC image, do the second edit idea and keep going.

So with this image you could do lighter ones, darker ones, ones with only the highlights brought up, ones with the shadows brought up etc.


Robert thank you so much. I was processing it in a dark room and didn't realize how underexposed it was. I am using Photoshop and ACR with a little help from Nik Silver Effects. Since I use non destsructive techniques I can reprocess the original as much as I need to.
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