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Apr 22, 2024 15:13:56   #
texasdigital wrote:
At the risk of sounding rude, what is your line of work?


You are not being rude. The reason I am on the forum under btbg instead of my name is because I work for a newspaper corporation with 23 or 24 newspapers. I shoot spirts and write. I also get sent out on low light news stories, bad accidents or fires, or police activity, the things that shake most people up.

I have the equipment I have because of kow ligjt and the fact that for some things like fires having a big lens may be the difference between having a shot for the news or not. I try to shoot sharp photos, but the reality is I get paid for the decisive moment not the technical quality of the photo, akthough that is still important.

I use the nickname heee, which standa for big tall bald guy because I participate in the attic at times and doing so under my name would not be considered professional
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Apr 22, 2024 15:04:23   #
texasdigital wrote:
First, he stated that he did not post in the bird section because he wanted a wider view of his post.
Second, you are correct; however, with new AI software, he can recover some of the lost sharpness
Third, I've never seen a recommendation to combine teleconverters, so I agree with you.
Fourth, Since he already owns a costly 400mm 2.8 lens, purchasing a 600mm f4 at $13,000 seems a bit outrageous since it appears he is not a professional selling his work. Many people use teleconverters but accept that they will not be tack sharp.
Fifth, with a 600mm lens, you will not need a teleconverter for most shots unless you migrate into wildlife, where an 800mm lens is better. However, either lens requires deep pockets.
Sixth, I also say good luck and keep on shooting. However, I'd only use the 1.4 or the 2, not both.

Seventh is not part of the question but from my personal experience. I recently shot a local rodeo from the stands. Being at the far end of the arena, I used a 1.4 tele on my Nikon 200-500 f5.6 lens. This was mounted on a Nikon D850. This, in effect, made my lens one stop higher, which wasn't the effect I wanted. I switched to my 70-200 f2.8 and exposure was much better, but I lost one stop when I tried the 1.4 tele. It may not seem like much, but one stop was noticeable.
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I am actually a professional soorts photographer. Dont often post sports photos because historically the corporation I worked for claimed they owned the photos. They no longer claim that so I am now posting some sports photos.

As to not posting in the bird sectiin I only posted in the main section because this was about converters not birds which is why gwilloams posted people being pulled on tubes behind a boat.

Also I think most of the argument about sharpness of the original images ia more about exactly where the focus point is, the narrow depth of field and the post processing or lack thereof. For example the beak of the wren is not particularly sharp.

As to a 600 f4 I thought about getting one but the 400 2.8 with a converter covers essentially all of Nikons big lenses while only buying one. They make the 400, a 600 f4, a 800 f6.3, well the 400 with the built in 1.4 is a 560f4 so almost the equivalent of the 600 f 4 and without the 1.4 converter but wirh the 2x attatched it is an 800 f6.3, so in my view it is more versitle.

Also for some of us there is no such thing as a big enough lens. A couple years ago I started shooting softball from behind the outfield fence. It allows you to shoot both batters and defense and baserunning at all four bases. All you miss is catches in the iutfield. Well sure enough they wanted me to shoot baseball from the same place and since fields are much larger even 1120 is marginal for home plate.

As to rodeo I have never shot from the stands. A 200_500 is pretty good for every event except team roping if you are in the arena.
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Apr 22, 2024 14:48:25   #
neillaubenthal wrote:
The problem is that some people have a pathological hatred of a TC…and to prove they’re right they will examine an image at 2:1 in LR and compare it to a non TC image. The problem though…is that there are many other factors affecting image sharpness besides the use…or not…of a TC. And in addition…nobody looks at finished images at 2:1 in LR…no matter whether they’re going to be printed or displayed on screen…they’re going to get down sampled in resolution and physics decrees that most to all of any minute differences ar 2:1 will disappear in the downsampling. Better is really the enemy of good enough in this situation.

It is true that a 9 pound 24 inch long 600 f4 lens costing in excess of $15K will produce better images t 2:1 in LR than say a Z 180-600…but at display resolution the outputs are a lot closer and in many situations the results are just different, not better or worse. Then add in physical limitations, skill, lifting, processing capabilities and whether good enough is enough or whether one demands ‘better’ with all the effects of that demand becomes a personal decision. Me…the Z 1.4 on any of my Z lenses is plenty good enough…and the 2.0 is good enough in some situations…depends on how important the shot is and if one can get closer…but if the choice is 2x or no shot…I make an informed decision.

Don’t listen to the naysayers.
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I only have the big lens because of shooting sports in low light. Other than that I would have stuck with my Sigma 150_600 sport. Think is its almost as heavy as the 400 though. The 180-600 is a much better choice for most people.

As to the naysayers I posted just because of a previous discussion about converters and expected what has happened. Thats a non issue. I have always done my own thing photographically good and bad.

And you are absolutely correct about good enough. Good enough is far better than not at all, especially in my line of work.
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Apr 22, 2024 14:36:03   #
Triple G wrote:
Or, trump's actions made it possible as the experts believe.


You choose the experts you want to believe. If you want to look there are plenty of articles on the other side of the fence starting clear back when Obama agreed to the initial deal. There are peoole on both side on this one. All I would say is no matter which side you are on why would you even consider negotiating with terrorists and lifting sanctions on them? Thats insane.
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Apr 22, 2024 14:33:05   #
Jules Karney wrote:
I am with Raymond. I like the bike shots too.


Thanks Jules.
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Apr 22, 2024 13:28:41   #
DennyT wrote:
I said I don’t know but I do know it is not carpet bombing .
K*****g women in children is not “ defense “ is it ?


Well since you don't know I have a little secret to tell you. To defeat an enemy you must go where the enemy is. If they are cowards hidong in the middle of women and children that is on them.

Another factor that you are ignoring is in rhe U.S. we consider them to be kods until they are 18 but in parts of Africa and the middle east they may be enemy cbatablnts at the age of 12 or 13. In war ignoring someone because they are a "kid" gets you k**led.
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Apr 22, 2024 13:24:55   #
Triple G wrote:
It was done in good faith since there was no agreement in place to prevent it. Either abide by the agreements or don't. I believe it was a concerted effort to get back to a deal when there was none after Trump. I think more could have been accomplished with it with better communication.

https://theconversation.com/ransom-or-realism-a-closer-look-at-bidens-prisoner-swap-deal-with-iran-213442


I agree they wanted back to a deal, but it was still a bad deal. Look at what Iran did during the Trump administration and what they are doing now. Far worse now so the rational conclusion is Trump was right.
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Apr 22, 2024 11:57:12   #
DennyT wrote:
The biggest misstep by America in Iran ever was in the long American support of the Shah. We looked the other way during his SAVAK torture and executions the same way we are looking the other way when Palestinians women and children are k**led- all the name of getting the bad guys.
That opened the door for Khomeini in the 60-79 era and the Iran revolution and it got us to 9-11 and where we are today.


Denny, answer the question that has been repestedly asked. How is Israel supposed to protect themself from Hamas? Raz posted a lenghty article that documents how they build their military infrastructure in and under schools and hospitals. What do you want Israel to do, capitulate? Do they have a right to defend themselves or not?
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Apr 22, 2024 11:54:20   #
Triple G wrote:
Look at 2016 and why sanctions were lifted (we had to abide by the UN agreement) and look at the actions taken since Dec. 2016. There have been a lot of missteps on Iran for a very long time. One of them was trumps action to withdraw from the agreement and another was Biden's effort to get hostages freed. Iran is vulnerable, however, so let's put some pressure back on. I believe some if not all of those assets still frozen from Iran, but by Qatar instead of Korea.

"The money was t***sferred to banks in Qatar but has essentially been refrozen in the aftermath of the deadly attack by Hamas on Israel of Oct. 7, 2023, and rising tension between the U.S. and other Iran-backed militant groups after Israel invaded Gaza."

Look at recommendation from just a month ago.

https://www.stimson.org/2024/how-to-prevent-a-nuclear-crisis-with-iran/

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/iran-economy/#:~:text=More%20oil%20revenues%20have%20been,as%20fast%20as%20the%20GDP.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/20211205244208

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/04/15/israel-war-iran-biden-netanyahu-escalation/

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-g-n/iran.aspx

https://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/timeline-us-sanctions
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Also the 6 billion was frozen but kike most of the left you have ignored that lofting sanctions was not just about that 6 billion, it has also allowed them to sell more oil internationally and use that money. So I'm not talking about that 6 billion even though I think Biden was foolish to start releasing that money.
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Apr 22, 2024 11:50:21   #
Triple G wrote:
Look at 2016 and why sanctions were lifted (we had to abide by the UN agreement) and look at the actions taken since Dec. 2016. There have been a lot of missteps on Iran for a very long time. One of them was trumps action to withdraw from the agreement and another was Biden's effort to get hostages freed. Iran is vulnerable, however, so let's put some pressure back on. I believe some if not all of those assets still frozen from Iran, but by Qatar instead of Korea.

"The money was t***sferred to banks in Qatar but has essentially been refrozen in the aftermath of the deadly attack by Hamas on Israel of Oct. 7, 2023, and rising tension between the U.S. and other Iran-backed militant groups after Israel invaded Gaza."

Look at recommendation from just a month ago.

https://www.stimson.org/2024/how-to-prevent-a-nuclear-crisis-with-iran/

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/iran-economy/#:~:text=More%20oil%20revenues%20have%20been,as%20fast%20as%20the%20GDP.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/20211205244208

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/04/15/israel-war-iran-biden-netanyahu-escalation/

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-g-n/iran.aspx

https://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/timeline-us-sanctions
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Trump was right to withdraw. That should have been a ratified treaty and it was not. It was a bad deal that virtually guaranteed that Iran would get nuclear weapons and it wasnt legally done. And who cares about the U.N. Do you really think that they have our best interests at heart? Lifting sanctions just helps fuel terrorism and their nuclear program. We have made mistakes in the middle east since at least Carter, and the only president I have agreed with on middle east policy since then is Trump.
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Apr 22, 2024 11:43:48   #
DennyT wrote:
1. We are a member of NATO
2. Ukraine is not a
3. EU countries have contributed more Ukraine support than America:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/these-countries-have-committed-the-most-aid-to-ukraine


Try reading for understanding. We have contributed 75 billion as of when that article was written and are v****g on 60 billion more. All of the rest of NATO combined are at 93 billion. Let them pay their fair share, especially since we are not even an ally of Ukraine. You want to withdraw support from Israel who is our ally and continue to give billions to a country that is not our ally. Let the countries in NATO who are near Ukraine do their job. Tje article would indicate that only about tjree other NATO countries are doing much of anything.
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Apr 22, 2024 01:05:37   #
PAR4DCR wrote:
A fine variety of images well shot btbg.

Don


Thanks
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Apr 21, 2024 20:03:33   #
Kraken wrote:
Iran does not have the money, it has been frozen. Look it up.


Thats the 6 billion. Biden lifted the sanctions so they have oil money again. Look it up.
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Apr 21, 2024 20:01:41   #
Racmanaz wrote:
Iran was going broke under Trumps leadership and now that have richly benefited from Biden’s weakness. Iran is much much richer now under Joe Biden then they were under Trump.


Duh. Couldnt afford their nuclear program with all the sanctions but they sure can now.
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Apr 21, 2024 19:49:29   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
It was under trump that the US withdrew from the Iran Nuclear Deal, allowing Iran to resume their enrichment of uranium!

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/08/iran-advances-nuclear-program-withdrawal-jcpoa/


Withdrawing from the deal wasnt the problem. The deal was the problem. It gave them money to fund their nuclear program and never had verifiable checks. Thats why Trump withdrew. It was a terrible deal that should never have been allowed as it should have been a treaty authorized by congress and that was never done. It is Obama and Biden who have given Iran access to the funds they needed to run a nuclear program, not Trump. Backing out of a bad deal is not the problem.
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