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Jul 14, 2018 07:45:04   #
Bob Locher wrote:
I tried using a Nikon 135 mm f/3.5 lens, but found my modern technology 85 mm lens, a Sony 85 mm f/1.8, is distinctly sharper when blown up to equal the field of view of the Nikon. But the Sony was expensive and is heavy.

Some Nikkor lenses are better than others ...

It has been MY understanding that the 135mm f2.8 Nikkor lens was sharper than the 135mm f3.5 Nikkor ... with the slower lens possibly being an older optical design.

Also, it could be a situation where YOU need to use a tripod for the longer focal length ...

... Certainly, you should use a tripod if-or-when you are attempting to perform comparative testing where you will be judging what a lens can-or-cannot do on its own vs. how it performs when you-or-I might be impacting its performance by how well the lens is focused/etc. ...

... The lighting on the subject may also impact how the lens performs BECAUSE of how well YOU can focus it ...

Regardless, one thing I 'discovered' is that some of the hollow tube lens adapters are NOT perfectly machined (this can be easily remedied) so that setting a manual lens at infinity without checking the focus may not result in the best possible image.

THAT is not to say that your Sony isn't sharper than the 135mm f3.5 Nikkor lens you were using ...

ONLY, that as you described the situation it is not clear that you were optimizing the capabilities of one of Nikon's lesser lenses AND if you were to test a multitude of vintage lenses then you might realize that there may be one which is suitable for your landscapes ...

FYI. Presuming a high level of quality control where there is consistency between each lens that came off a specific production line, I can tell you that my Olympus OM Zuiko 24mm f2.8 lens (I don't think it is a one-off anomaly) can produce remarkably sharp images as long as it is properly focused and the camera is well stabilized.



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Jul 12, 2018 11:20:23   #
gvarner wrote:
Since you're doing tied flies in a controlled setting, a set of extension tubes would works just fine. Lighting is important, of course, a ring light would do well. A decent quality 50mm prime lens would be a good addition for image quality. Just be sure the subject is in the middle of the composition. I'm assuming your camera is a crop sensor and the 50mm would be a 75mm full frame equivalent and you'd get a bit more working distance for your lighting than with a shorter prime.

A 50mm lens on either a 4/3 or m4/3 is equivalent to a 100mm lens on a Full Frame camera ...

The OM Zuiko lenses are great; but, a vintage Canon FD, Nikon/Nikkor lens, or Pentax Takumar lens can also be used on a 4/3 or m4/3 body with the appropriate adapter.

BTW. If you (jertrap) don't already have-or-use a tripod, then you will find that using a tripod will be very beneficial for most close up photography.



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Jul 6, 2018 08:22:14   #
dragonking wrote:
Ok, I think I've got it.
A DX lens and an FX lens of the same focal length both produce an image of an object that is the same size. Because the DX sensor is smaller than a full frame FX sensor a factor of 1.5 has to be applied to all lenses fitted to a DX camera as it uses a smaller part of the field of view.
This allows somebody who is used to using an FX camera to be able to visualise what the final image will be on using a lens on a DX camera.
A 50mm lens on a DX camera will produce a final image that is equivalent to using a 75mm lens on a full frame camera whether it's a DX or an FX lens.
Right?.
Ok, I think I've got it. br A DX lens and an FX le... (show quote)

Yes ...

While the multiplication factor is obviously something to be aware of with "normal" and telephoto lens focal lengths, it may-or-may-not become more relevant for your consideration if-or-when you decide you want WIDER fields of view AND if you are aware of the equivalent fields of view produced by a particular focal length on a Full Frame (35mm) film camera ...

For example, I have a 17mm rectilinear ultra wide angle lens which becomes the FF equivalent of a ~24mm lens on a DX camera body, and ~35mm on an m4/3 camera body ...

... A person would need an 8mm lens to achieve the same field of view with an m4/3 camera body -- I'm under the impression that ALL (?) of the 8mm lenses are "fisheye" types.

There are ZOOM lenses which have the equivalent of ultra wide fields of view for most cameras AND alternatively many people like to stitch multiple images together to achieve wide angle images; so, capturing wide angle images mostly becomes an issue for your wallet and/or how you may want to achieve a wide angle image ... if that ever occurs.



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Jun 27, 2018 06:40:03   #
Teddys1 wrote:
Hello all,
I'm a 62 year old with nearsightedness 250/275 and astigmatism.
I have been shooting Leica rangefinders, and own 2 bodies and several M mount & Zeiss lenses.
Recently, I found I lack the confidence in my focus and composition. Particularly, street, movement captures.
I wear progressive/transition glasses (polarized as well) and have used variable and fixed diopters.
I am still finding that I am not getting the "focus" and crispness I once did.
So I am looking to switch (reluctantly) systems.
Where would you recommend to start looking looking for an auto focus system
I have 2 Leica bodies and several M and Zeiss lenses.

Any suggestion are appreciated.
Hello all, br I'm a 62 year old with nearsightedne... (show quote)

If you're talking about film cameras AND you want to continue to use rangefinder cameras, then I think that your only options are possibly the FINAL ITERATION of the CONTAX which I believe uses Leica M-mount lenses OR to opt for a used LTM camera + a set of equivalent focal length LTM lenses that you currently prefer to use ...

I only handled an M3 about 50 years ago, so my memory of its viewfinder is limited ... if memory serves me (and, it probably doesn't), the image seemed 'small' ...

I have several older Leica bodies including a III, a couple of IIIc bodies (clearly, I'm a glutton for punishment), a couple of IIIf bodies (obviously, no real difference compared to the IIIc), and a IIIg (what was I thinking?) ...

I have Canon P and Canon 7 bodies -- both have foil shutters (a good thing) ...

And, several Russian LTM bodies!

If you are willing to get lenses which have the LEICA THREAD MOUNT and if you can live without the framelines, then the ZORKI 4 probably has the best rangefinder as far as viewfinder size & rangefinder 'spot' contrast ...

The Zorki 4 is kind of fugly ... the Zorki 4K has a lever advance & eschews the separate take-up spool.

Unfortunately, it's a catch-as-catch-can situation with Russian camera bodies ... so, you have to rely on the seller's description of the condition of the camera ... some have been CLA'd.

Of course, using an auxiliary optical viewfinder resolves the issue of the lack of frame lines.

The Canon P and Canon 7 bodies are LTM bodies. Their viewfinders are large & the rangefinder 'dots' also have good contrast. The Canon P has "fixed" framelines ... the bulky Canon 7 has selectable frame lines.

So, that begs the question: Have you considered that the rangefinder mechanism on your Leicas simply need to be (re-)adjusted?

And, Are you using a tripod?




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Jun 25, 2018 19:07:43   #
out4life2016 wrote:
I always have wanted to get that really great Depth of Field look in my photos. How is this accomplished? I have posted some images for viewing..

Although your specific question is about DOF ...

ONE reason that the pictures may not have the look you want is simply because of the lens you are using ...

I believe that there are manual (hollow "tube") adapters which will allow either a vintage Nikon/Nikkor or a Pentax/Takumar lens to fit on your Canon ... you can save money if you buy the adapter through eBay directly from a Chinese vendor.

Before you buy an adapter, be sure it will allow the lens to focus-at-infinity.

Check this site for potential film-to-flange compatibility ... http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/eosfaq/manual_focus_EOS.html

Most vintage 50mm lenses are affordable; and, THAT can be your starting point.



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Jun 24, 2018 09:49:54   #
aschweik wrote:
I speak very little German. My husband speaks some and he translated for me. :) And, Longshadow is correct, aschweik is my screen name and is just a variation on my first and last name. I would love to learn more German. I've been to Germany several times and love it. Beer for breakfast? Excellent. :)

THANKS for the clarification ...


FWIW. My preference is for almost any Bok over most Lagers.

BTW. That was quite an ending to yesterday's Match against Sweden ... tough luck for Sweden, of course.


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Jun 24, 2018 09:32:30   #
Longshadow wrote:

The OP.
(Das ursprüngliche Plakat.)



THANKS for the reminder!



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Jun 24, 2018 07:22:32   #
AndyH wrote:
My apologies to you, aschweik if I've played a part in derailing your thread. Your question was entirely legit. Sorry there isn't a better answer!

Andy

... Ich kann ein wenig Deutsch und ein kleines Jiddisch sprechen, aber welche Sprache ist DAS Wort "aschweik"?

And, to whom were you addressing your comment?!?



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Jun 24, 2018 00:00:01   #
AndyH wrote:
Quod erat demonstrandum.

No loss, although I will miss your blurry images, your unprovoked attacks on others, and your colorful use of italics and bold face.

Does your dog hate you too? Or just your wife, family, and strangers on the Internet? No loss...

Buh bye. Maybe look up "projection" in the DSM? The sixth edition is out...

Peace, I hope you find it...

Andy

OY VEY!

... Just another set of trolling remarks from the bully-on-the-block ...

Keep it up!



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Jun 23, 2018 23:04:58   #
AndyH wrote:
You mean like unsupported opinions, nasty rhetoric, and attacks on anyone you view as an "other"?

Take a look in the mirror... it might be illuminating.

Your "discussion points" may even be correct, but your attitude and "attack first" approach aren't what I'm personally here to read. And you haven't, in your entire history here, posted a single image that has provoked a single "well done" comment from anyone. Not one. This may be more a comment on the personality you project than on the quality of your work. Is there a reason for this? (Yes, before posting a negative comment, I read every single post you've made - I don't dismiss people casually. We all have value.). You may be the greatest photographer since Ansel Adams, but AA did not spend his career disparaging the work of others.

Why do you post here? Does it really make you feel a bigger man to disparage others almost every time you post?

If people don't like you, it might not be a conspiracy, whether of dunces or not, it might just have something to do with your attitude. Your mastery of text codes does not indicate anything except that you know boldface and type colors. That's not the same as superior knowledge or taste.

I don't dislike you, or disparage your opinions, but you might take a look in the mirror to see why you seem to provoke such intense negative emotions from others, and, perhaps, reconsider your opinion of your own superiority on all matters photographic. For a guy with a Spiratone lens, you do seem just a tiny bit haughty. I'm not the greatest photographer out there, but at least I try to be helpful to others and encouraging in further pursuit of this wonderful hobby of ours.

Wishing you happiness. No matter what additional names you call me.

Andy
You mean like unsupported opinions, nasty rhetoric... (show quote)

Well ...

... Oh, is THAT prefatory remark an attack?!?

Do you REALLY consider this opening to be an attack?:

WOW!?!

Everyone ELSE must be so far removed from the days when they shot film WITHOUT a Zoom lens that they just don't remember what's what about some of the basics of photography ...


OR, is that opening an attack because YOU were the first-in-line with a lazy reply?!?

If you take the time to re-read the posts in this thread (for example) which preceded mine which may-or-may-not have been well-intentioned and which were hopefully meant to be meaningful replies to the OP BUT which which were clearly wrong & misleading DESPITE the declarations of the posters then I don't think it is fair to say that calling out the emperor-for-not-wearing-any-clothes can be considered as an attack ...

Unless the well meaning cognoscenti are all "Snowflakes" ...

Is THAT the case?

Your pal was among those who ALSO provided an unequivocally wrong reply ...

... His subsequently flip reply to my post was meaningless & inaccurate ... and, it was gratuitous and therefore a trolling remark.

... His flip reply to the subsequent post by nicksr1125 was MORE of a trolling remark, IMO. Just because your pal declared himself to be too lazy (in so many words) to do the math did not warrant his gratuitous remark to the how-to BECAUSE nicksr1125 was replying directly to the OP's query by indicating that a technical methodology can be employed to determine the focal length of a lens used to take a photograph.

Perhaps, YOU should re-read the OP's original post and nicksr1125's reply.

BTW. Calling YOU out as a Troll is just an observation ...

Now, if my memory serves me, I believe that the reason that I specifically mentioned the PRE-SET Spiratone lens (a friend gave me the lens a few years ago) is to ensure that anyone who might be interested that it wasn't necessary to spend a lot of money for a reasonably good optic ...

But, I would say that by the way that YOU referred to that lens that YOU are an equipment snob ...

.. Nothing wrong with that if that's where you choose to come from.

And, I guess you NEITHER liked the image NOR could appreciate the technical component in taking it ...

That's life!

Well, why don't YOU -- with whatever fancy-schamncy equipment you use -- see if you can replicate it.

Did you REALLY read ALL of my posts?!? Could you catalog all my "unsupported opinions" OR were you just having a "snowflake" moment when you read them and were you subsequently shooting-from-the-lip?

HMmmm. Who knew that a Troll (i.e., YOU) could be an apparent "Snowflake" (i.e., again YOU) could be a bully, too? After all, YOU are trying to bully me into not posting, n'est-ce pas?.

Yeah, it is YOU who should look in the mirror.



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Jun 23, 2018 20:32:45   #
AndyH wrote:
Wow. I rarely see such a combination of ignorance, unsupported opinion, and nastiness toward a contributor who has provided so much valuable information over so many years.

I advise a chill pill. Relax.

It's not life or death, and intelligent and informed people may disagree from time to time.

Just my opinion, which, perhaps to your surprise, may be as valid as your own.

Andy

Fascinating ...

Really, two Trolls for-the-price-of-one!

Okay, I'll reply to you, too ...

Your pal, Longshadow, did not reply to the OP's query ...

Then, he made the fairly ridiculous remark: "I think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between two zooms that do 70mm, or a fixed 70 and a zoom at 70."

... I believe that it is safe to say that few vintage Zoom lenses (which is what the OP has) compare with most Prime lenses.

You pal immediately follows with an almost unintelligible: "WAY not worth the trouble for me."

I believe that IF you were to reflect on Longshadow's posts in THIS thread then you would necessarily conclude that he was clearly trolling with his replies.

If you want to defend his inarticulate remarks, well, more power to the two of you ...

And so, you have provided us with yet another unfortunate example of what is wrong with America in the 21st Century.






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Jun 23, 2018 18:23:53   #
Longshadow wrote:
COOL YOU JETS JACK!
No, "I" could not tell the difference between a 70 prime and a zoom set at 70!!!
I do not have that good of knowledge of my lenses to do that.
(and 70 was a number that I pulled out of the air. Rather it be 50?)

OMG!

An individual who wallows in his ignorance and laziness ...

An unfortunate example of what is wrong with America in the 21st Century.



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Jun 23, 2018 14:50:47   #
Longshadow wrote:
I think you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between two zooms that do 70mm, or a fixed 70 and a zoom at 70.

Did you REALLY not understand the original question posed by the OP?

Did you intentionally miss the point that it is possible to determine which lens took which picture OR are you trolling?

BTW. If a person has a Prime 70mm (it must be the new Leica lens unless you know of another 70mm lens!?!) then I suspect that it is very possible to tell the difference between the image captured with it and either a vintage 28-70 Zoom lens or vintage 70-210 Zoom lens ...

And, while YOU may not be able to tell the difference in the picture taken with the two Zoom lenses (at the same theoretical focal length), I suspect that a person with a only a moderately discerning eye could tell the difference if s/he was familiar with "both" lenses.




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Jun 23, 2018 09:41:10   #
aschweik wrote:
Is there a way to determine what lens was used when viewing photos taken with a film camera? I'm thinking probably not, but I have to ask. lol. I recently bought the following at a garage sale:

Minolta Maxxum 7000
Sigma 28-70 lens
Minolta 50mm lens
Minolta 70-210 lens
Various filters and a filter holder

They only wanted $30 for everything! But had no idea if the camera worked. So I figured for 30 bucks, it's not a big deal if there was a problem with any of the items. So I cleaned it up...no scratches on the lenses since they were covered with protective filters. My daughter had old film from a photography class...it was expired but I just wanted to see if the camera worked. I shot the roll of film using all the lenses to test them out. Just got the photos uploaded today from The Darkroom. Looks like the camera and lenses work great! But I just don't remember what photos I took with what lens. It doesn't really matter...I really just wanted to make sure it all worked (it does...and the expired film, too...). But I was just wondering if there is any way to tell what lens was used for each shot.

Thanks for helping me out. I haven't shot film for a long time and back when I did, I probably didn't care what lens I used, so never thought about it. But now that I'm learning more about photography, the more questions I have! :)
Is there a way to determine what lens was used whe... (show quote)

WOW!?!

Everyone ELSE must be so far removed from the days when they shot film WITHOUT a Zoom lens that they just don't remember what's what about some of the basics of photography ...

Determination will be easiest if whatever you took pictures of was somewhere nearby to where you currently are AND can simply attach the various lenses to the camera and look through to see how the image in the camera looks compared to the "prints" you have...

Posting pics would probably help ...

Regardless, because there is some overlap in the focal lengths due to the Zoom lenses you acquired, there will be some uncertainty, but since there are only three lenses, once you sort out some aspects of the images, you may-or-should be able to recall which lens was probably used since you didn't have an assistant changing the lenses who then handing the camera to you ...

Based on the background in the images, YOU can readily determine which one was used for which image BECAUSE the background will appear to fall away at different rates ...

With items in the background of the pics taken with a Wide Angle lens appearing to be comparatively smaller than objects the background on the "normal" 50mm lens ...

The overlap of the 28mm-70mm with the 50mm lens complicates this a little ... so YOU will have to try to recall how much fiddling you were doing with the lens's Zoom capability ...

Pics taken with the telephoto Zoom lens will generally have a compressed background and/or shallower depth of field.

If you are asking WHERE in a Zoom's range the picture was taken ... again, retracing your steps is the key ...

BTW. You can use your recently acquired Minolta-mount lenses with ANY mirroless camera body.




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Jun 14, 2018 13:20:44   #
mleemcc wrote:
Hi! I’m a hs art teacher and painter. I started a photo club this year even though I had no idea about photography. I was blown away by the photos the kids showed me, mostly freshmen. This is probably because they have been taking pix forever on their phones. They just showed a lot of personality and a natural ability to compose a pix. I have no idea if they are technically any good. So here’s why I’m here. Where do I begin to learn so I can offer something to my students other than transferable painting skills -composition, color, value, etc. I don’t know how to use the DSLR I purchased other than automatic l settings. A book, videos or just a skill to focus on first would be great advice! Looking forward to learning from you all! Lee
Hi! I’m a hs art teacher and painter. I started ... (show quote)

Beyond learning more about YOUR specific camera ...

WHAT is the purpose of the club?

I presume that when you were in "art school" that you probably took a TOOLS-AND-MATERIAL class for painting ...

It's not that different for other media -- "What do I need to create this-or-that image or object?"

Many people are interested in wildlife ... some people are more interested in candid "street" photography ... some want to capture architectural photos ... others may be interested in still lifes ... et cetera.

Just as oil paint may be better than acrylic or tempera or watercolor for differerent types of images, it is also true that different equpment may be better to capture-or-create different types of photographic images ... and, that is something you can discuss with your students.

Cell phones have remarkable lenses, but they limitations ... and, that can be demonstrated by using different Prime lenses or Zoom lenses with different ranges ... similarly, while stepping forward or back may allow you to frame the principle object differently, the background may change in a signifcant or insignificant way.

While you don't want to be completely ignorant of your own camera's capabilities, you can use your lack of knowledge as a springboard to demonstrate how some things which cannot be done with a cell phone's camera may be possible with a "real" camera ... and, what you don't know, you can have someone read in the user manual and then you can walk through the process with your students to see how it is done ...

BTW. GRAPHIS is a publication with which you may already familiar which often has some pretty remarkable photographic images which can be springboards for discussion about the how-it-was-shot ...

The same is true for OTHER publications, of course.




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