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Oct 21, 2011 08:03:19   #
MPratter wrote:
I keep hearing digital and film photography being compared. Often by people comparing the raw-shooting, and post-processing method of composed artistic digital photography to the film process of sending film out to be developed and getting prints. This is often used to point out the expense of shooting film.

This is a false comparison. The film parallel to this kind of digital photography involves developing film by hand and printing. This process costs cents per roll.

Dropping film off to be developed is best paralleled to taking family snapshots and uploading on facebook. In this market film is absolutely not competitive. It's also not a creative or hands on process. It's point and shoot. I still use film for this but only because I love film so much.

However, from an artistic standpoint, developing film by hand and making darkroom prints competes very well with digital. It also offers a great deal of creativity and control over the process. It also costs cents a roll to develop black and white, and maybe a dollar a roll at the most to develop color.

Comparing dropping film off at the drug store to creative DSLR photography is apples and oranges.

The difference in price between a high megapixel DSLR and a 35mm SLR camera buys a LOT of film and chemistry.
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I shoot 120mm B/W film, develop the film myself then scan them into my computer using an Epson Perfection V600 Photo flatbed scanner. I process the digital through Photoshop CS5 and print from there. The camera I use is a Mamiya 645 AFD II which accepts 120/220 film (medium format). This process gives me the best of both film and digital worlds.
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Oct 19, 2011 17:55:59   #
This site offers a good comparison on the A77 and competitors. http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA77/AA77A.HTM
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Oct 19, 2011 14:31:36   #
plieber wrote:
The idea and specs sound great. BUT you do lose light (1/3 of a stop or so) going to the sensor, which means that the viewfinder must not be as bright (I must be missing something). However the thing that caused me to pause the most is that I read that the translucent mirror makes it more susceptible to dust not less as one might think. Plus you are putting one more piece of glass between your subject and your sensor.


Not so, I have the A55 and the viewfinder is brighter than you would think. If you have a chance to go to a camera store that has one check it out. I find no appreciable loss of light (aperture difference) with the translucent technology. The self-cleaning feature removes dust from the translucent mirror, I have had this and in the menu is a feature that allows the dust to vibrate lose and can be blown out. I would advise an individual to buy the A77 over the A55 due to the weather proofing and more.
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Oct 19, 2011 14:22:09   #
dpullum wrote:
Bruce said "Choice of camera is a personal matter and others who own Nikon or Canon cameras have their own point of view." Yes, No,

NO for lab tests the values are defined (for sampling of one) Howerver reality is for us, and human eyes, you are right. And YES, All of these cameras are great, and a microscope is needed to really tell the difference. (not really but sounds good to make the point not a heck of lot of difference)

Truly the a77 is one of the greatest in terms of BOTH still and video. Next year, the N/C guys will turn the table and the march goes on.

However for those with Nikon or Canon lenses then the choice is made by economics. And for us with Old and wonderful Minolta Maxxum lenses, the choice is also made again for economics.

I bought a refurb a230 from SONY for $300 with 18-55mm lens, tax and free shipping. It comes with a lens that would cost me $200 if purchased alone. I have a full range of Maxxum lenses so that makes echon sense. The price is about the same as a good point and shoot. What other choice than Sony could I make?

The a230 is a Great (entry and more) camera and I plan to use it as a secondary and eventually get an a77, 55, or 35.
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dpullum, you are right, however lab test can be confusing for the uninitiated, for instance when comparing Sony to Nikon and Canon in lab testing Sony falls short on noise at the higher ISO settings. I know that I very seldom go beyond ISO 1600 (if ever); those that specialize in night photography might see it different and make their choice based on it. The point being a person making the decision based on Lab test must also consider a host of other factors, such as cost, editing software that will reduce noise, lens and lens cost, etc.
I totally agree with your decision based on you having the Minolta lenses as this was my one reason I went with the Sony Alpha series. I will probably sell my A55 and A550 to support buying the A77.
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Oct 19, 2011 12:58:54   #
les_stockton wrote:
I noticed that Sony is coming up with an SLT versus an SLR.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonyslta55/ I love the video performance with this device, and the ISO is outstanding.
10 frames per second in RAW. Outstanding.
I haven't seen a price on these yet (still reading the article), but this could make me actually think about trading in my Canon in another year or so.


Don't trade your Canon for the Sony A55 if I were you I would trade it for the Sony A77. Read this months Popular Photography on the A77. The A55 is not weather proof and is only a fair weather entry level camera, the A77 is fully weather proof and has many more advanced features and is the only camera in the APS-C range to offer 24.3 mega Pixles.
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Oct 19, 2011 12:53:04   #
refswife wrote:
At the local camera store which sells Nikon and Sony the expert guided me toward the Sony a35...I was impressed with its features some of which only much more expensive cameras have....bottom line is I want the best image so do I go with the better known Nikons or Canons ...expert says Sony is underrated and an excellent choice...opinions??


I have gone with the Sony line (A900, A850, A700, A550 and A55) and am happy with my choice. If you read Popular Photography this month they tested the new Sony A77 and gave it higher ratings than Nikon or Canon in this camera class range. Choice of camera is a personal matter and others who own Nikon or Canon cameras have their own point of view.
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Oct 18, 2011 08:49:06   #
plieber wrote:
What are some of your favorite (or not so favorite) Photoshop plug-ins?

Mine are Lucis Arts and Topaz Adjust, Topaz Simplify and Genuine Fractals!


Noise Ninja and On-One software.
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Oct 8, 2011 07:59:36   #
Sony A850 and A900.
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Oct 7, 2011 08:46:56   #
I use a Sigma 90mm portrait lens, however I like to use my Tamron 28-200mm lens for portrait work. Variable lens give you more control during the shoot.

kaycholewinski wrote:
I have a Sony 230a and am looking to purchase a good poritrait lens. Any suggestions? Thanks
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Oct 6, 2011 08:33:49   #
I have the Mamiya 645 AFD II (medium format) this shoots a 120/220 film back, the cheapest Phase One digital back for this camera (22 megapixles) cost $7,000.

Greg wrote:
bobmielke wrote:
PhotomomOf3 wrote:
My daughter has been taking photography in high school and she's graduating and planning on going to art school for photography. What camera should she get? No $1000 cameras. I'm looking for something she can add lenses to and grow with. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I don't know if this matters but she prefers film not digital. Are there duel cameras?


no


That's not completely true. There are medium format cameras that you can replace the back with film or digital i.e. Phase One digital backs. However, this won't nearly fit your sub $1000 price tag.
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Oct 6, 2011 08:24:12   #
I personally like my Sony A850 and A900, and I never shoot high ISO to make noise a factor. My A900 (body) cost $2600 versus what I would want from Nikon DX3 $7000; however the Canon D5 Mark II is priced along the Sony line, but I started off with Minolta cameras and had some lenses to work with and that forced my decision.

bobmielke wrote:
Now hear this. Definitive proof that Canon & Nikon are deemed tied as best cameras.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/nikon-vs-canon.htm

I announce this on my 1801st post. "Thank you, thank you very much"!
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Oct 5, 2011 08:08:46   #
I did a wedding once back in the days of film, I shot 10 rolls of film and as I used to do I sent them to National Color Lab to get processed. Six out of the 10 rolls of film were ruined by the Lab and all they did was to give me 6 new roles of film to replace the bad film. Obviously you can't shoot the wedding over again. Along with an extended apology to the clients I gave them the prints from the 4 good roles for free. However no amount of kindness or apology can ever cover this kind of situation.

Mary P wrote:
Just how do you tell someone you messed up and need another chance? Has anyone else done this?
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Oct 4, 2011 09:54:35   #
Yes, I did and after the McAfee warning which said it eliminated the Trojan the software loaded and worked on Windows 7 64 bit home edition. I bieleve it installed emulating either XP or Vista, but it is working.

arphot wrote:
Brucej67 wrote:
Watch out there is a Trojan embeded in GIMPShop. MaKafee removed it.

arphot wrote:
No1Shutterbug wrote:
Photoshop CS5 is expensive. Photoshop Elements is good. But,there is a free on out there that works on the same basis as Photoshop but very basic, and that is GIMP. Download it and practice. It does a nice job for the price.


And as I like to continuously point out, there is GIMPShop. It has the look and feel of Photoshop and may help in transition later on.


I have noticed this on other softwares and contacted the software company. Their response is that since it is a software not recognized by the MS PTB, you get a trojan warning. The company then usually contacts Micorsoft and attempts to get their software recognized. However, free, open-source software may not ever get that attention.

Did you download GS directly from the website?
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Oct 4, 2011 09:21:30   #
Watch out there is a Trojan embeded in GIMPShop. MaKafee removed it.

arphot wrote:
No1Shutterbug wrote:
Photoshop CS5 is expensive. Photoshop Elements is good. But,there is a free on out there that works on the same basis as Photoshop but very basic, and that is GIMP. Download it and practice. It does a nice job for the price.


And as I like to continuously point out, there is GIMPShop. It has the look and feel of Photoshop and may help in transition later on.
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Oct 4, 2011 08:29:42   #
Buy Photoshop CS5 Essential Training DVD from lynda.com. I did and I havn't regreted it. Thetraining and excercise is like being in a class room.

unclestu wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am new to the forum and as it seems I am now new to photography as well LOL. When I was younger i was very much into film photography and now that I am retired and have the time to revisit the hobby I find that photography has moved into the digital age in a big way. For those of you old enough to remember when 35mm film was packaged in a metal tin well that was about when I was last seriously involved in the hobby.
Now that I have the time I want to become more involved in the post production aspects. I find myself a bit overwhelmed with photoshop.
Are there any good easy to follow tutorials out out there that you all can recommend to learn how to use photoshop?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Stu
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