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May 2, 2023 15:57:03   #
imagemeister wrote:
IMEO (educated opinion) The R7 with 100-500 has the potential to render the most detail images/large prints - but it will require good light, good stabilization, and proper shutter speed for moving subjects. IOW, the moon and stars will have to align !

The full frame R5 has more versatility - especially when using AI pixel enlargement on cropped images.

Again IMEO, optically, the 100-500 and 1.4X are effectively equal to the 800, except for the IS of the zoom. Cost and size/weight are another matter.......
IMEO (educated opinion) The R7 with 100-500 has th... (show quote)


Thank you for your comments. I need to do more shooting with the R7 combo to see if I am satisfied with the results.
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May 2, 2023 15:52:58   #
DaveJ wrote:
I have the R5 and the R7. I also have the 800 f11, the 100-500 and the RF 1.4. If you want to see examples of the RF 1.4 on these two lenses and these two bodies, look thru my Flickr photo stream. I interchange all the time, and will say the 1.4 is very good on these two lenses, but lens is slightly better without it, as would be expected. The shooting data is on 95%+ of my shots on Flickr account.My Flickr address is below my name. My Youtube link below has videos with these bodies and lenses, but I don't think I call out which I use there.
I have the R5 and the R7. I also have the 800 f11,... (show quote)


Thanks, Dave, will check it out.
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May 2, 2023 14:15:52   #
MtManMD wrote:
Thanks for posting. I posted a similar comparison back in October. Bottom line, the 100-500mm is a masterpiece of a lens with either body. The 800mm needs good light and good stabilization. With that, it can produce excellent photos. I'm primarily a wildlife photographer, so will often start out with the R7 and 100-500mm lens, with or without the 1.4x extender. However, my preferred combo, for many reasons, is the R5 body and 100-500mm. I shot a huge amount of images at Bosque del Apache and almost all were with the R5 and 100-500mm.
Thanks for posting. I posted a similar comparison... (show quote)


Thanks for your feedback. I will look for your Oct post. Do you find that using the 1.4x extender provides high quality images, as good as shooting without it, or do you see a slight degradation of the image?
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May 2, 2023 14:12:35   #
Basil wrote:
Your post also proved that some people on the UHH are so insecure that they feel the need to be critical and/or make some condescending comments on a topic they could just as easily have ignored.


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May 2, 2023 14:11:27   #
amfoto1 wrote:
What I find interesting is that there is so little difference between these images.

R5 with 800mm f/11 lens... 1/1250, ISO 500, f/11
R5 with 100-500mm cropped... 1/2000, ISO 800, f/11 (500mm)
R7 with 100-500mm............ 1/2000, ISO 1250, f/13 (500mm)

At highest magnification, there's a bit more noise in the R7 images, most noticeably in the the sky. That's somewhat predictable since a higher ISO was used and the R7's sensor is much more densely packed with pixel sites. Noise is also pretty easily mitigated various ways. (Shoot RAW and use DXO PureRaw, for example.)

Shooting something two football fields away, there's probably some atmospheric effect as well.
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Thank you for your comments. I intended to have the settings indentical-SS and aperture. Don't know why they are not. I currently shoot RAW and use DXO and Topaz Denoise or Neat Image to remove noise if necessary, so a slight bit of noise is not a concern to me. If I would do this over again, I would be more precise with my settings, use a tripod, and shoot at a closer subject as noted by imagemeister.
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May 2, 2023 12:11:19   #
Chuckwal wrote:
What was iso?
Chuck


The ISO was 500 for the 800mm shot, 800 for the R5-500mm cropped, and 1250 for the R7-500mm. So, yes, maybe the ISO should have been the same with all the photos. But I shot all three of them the way I would have shot them if I was out in the field. Shot in the manual mode, same shutter speed, f11, and auto ISO. Since that is the way I often shoot, that is the way I took these photos.
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May 2, 2023 12:00:51   #
dbrugger25 wrote:
It would be intereting to see the R5 with the 100-500 plus a 1.4 teleconverter in the comparisons.


Agree. Don't have the 1.4X.
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May 2, 2023 11:59:35   #
Jimmy T wrote:
I have a Canon R5 fitted with the Canon RF 100-500 mm lens.
When I shoot RAW at 500 mm I have a file size large enough to comfortably crop to the equivalent 800 mm view image.
I also have a similar result when I shoot at 500 mm, and using the "Q" button and selecting the "crop/aspect ratio 1.6" for an equivalent 800 mm result.
Just another option to consider. It works well for me though your mileage may vary.
Using any measure, the Canon RF 100-500 mm when paired with the R5, makes me . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends
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Thank you for your comments.
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May 2, 2023 11:58:33   #
billnikon wrote:
Proof positive that your post proves nothing.



I didn't have the time to set up a tripod, set up controlled lighting, or control the sun.

I think it proves that any of these combinations works in the right situation. It proves that one is not clearly better than another all the time. If one of the combinations would have consistently produced poor results, I would sell that combination.

My purpose for posting this was to provide information to others that might be in my same situation or were contemplating buying gear.

Other than that, sorry to have bothered you. You always have the choice to skip the post and move on, rather than make a snippy remark.
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May 1, 2023 20:10:35   #
bikinkawboy wrote:
I’d say that for most purposes, all are equally good. Since you seem to be curious, it might be interesting to compare them under low light at sunrise or sunset, a closer subject, shooting in the general direction of the sun and so on. Were it me, I’d want to compare them under more difficult conditions to separate the men from the boys. Only because I’m curious about such things and like you, I too have compared lenses, cameras and different combinations under varying conditions.

One thing I did find was that my Nikon D80 and 70-300 (the cheap lens) don’t seem to like each other. The lens performs adequately on other cameras and other lenses perform adequately on the D80, but even on a tripod, the D80 & 70-300 combination refuses to deliver sharp images at infinity. You would think that if it was the lens then it wouldn’t be sharp on other cameras of if the camera other lenses would not be sharp b
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Yea, it probably would be better to show comparison photos under different conditions and using different settings. But I am pretty sure which combo would win in low light. The 800mm/f11 at low light would require a higher ISO setting. So more noise. I know the R5 is a better camera in low light than the R7. So I guess I'm saying I'm pretty sure the R5 with the 100-500mm lens would win that battle. I will probably be using the R7 with the 18-150 lens because it is smaller/lighter and provides a good walk around range.
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May 1, 2023 16:30:07   #
DWU2 wrote:
When you tried the 800mm on the R7 and did not get quality images, were you on a tripod and using a remote release? If not, would that be something to try?


I did not use a tripod, but I was resting my camera and lens on the window of my car shooting at 1/2000. Subject was pretty far away, so many it would work better on a closer subject.
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May 1, 2023 16:28:17   #
mikey12654 wrote:
I would have to say the R5/100-500 would be my pick. I have the R5/800 too and use it quite a bit but would love to have the 100-500. For the 800, since using DxO DeepPrime I'm able to jack up the ISO for low light shooting. I like your post, great info!


Thank you, 100-500mm is a great lens. Focuses as close as 3 feet, very useful in multiply situations. So, if you get it, you won't regret it.
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May 1, 2023 13:03:17   #
No question here. Just wanted to share a comparison analysis with you. I have a Canon R5, an R7, and two lenses-a 100 to 500mm RF zoom and a Canon 800mm RF prime. I have often wondered which combination of camera/lens would provide the best results at 800mm. I was not able to find a good analysis of this with a google search or in the Ugly Hedgehog search, so I decided to conduct my own comparison. Maybe not the most scientifically controlled, but my best effort.

Here is the setup-
-R5 with an 800mm lens.
-R5 with the 100-500mm lens, cropped in post to get to 800mm.
-R7 with the 100-500mm lens, no crop needed since this is a crop sensor camera 1.6X

I took several different sets of images in these three scenarios. I have attached one of those sets. I went into this thinking the R5/100-500mm cropped image would be the best. It will probably be the system I use most often, but the results did not make it a clear cut winner. In fact I think the image quality on all three were quite close. See the images provided.

Here are some of my conclusions:
-Because the 800mm lens has a fixed aperture at f11, it is only usable in good light and also when the subject is more that 18 feet away. The sample images provided were about 200 yards away.
-The DOF using the 800mm lens is less than when using the 100-500mm lens.
-I also paired the 800mm lens with the R7 to get an effective focal length of 1280mm, but I have not been successful at getting any quality images with this setup. So I don't plan on using that combination.
-The R5/100-500mm is obviously the most flexible system, so another reason to use it.
-The JPG file size/pixel count of the R5/100-500mm-cropped option was significantly less than the other two alternatives, so that may make it less usable for enlargements.
-In some of my other test shots, the image quality from R7/100-500mm combination tended to be a bit less detailed, but it required some pixel peeping to make that determination.
-When using any of these setups, a high shutter speed was required to eliminate camera shake. Definitely 1/1000 or higher (shorter).
-Originally, I was thinking about selling my 800mm lens or my R7, but now I think I will keep them. There may be situations when I will want to use one combination over the other.


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Apr 21, 2023 13:10:37   #
I use IDrive and SyncbacPro. IDrive for off-site backup and SyncbacPro for backing up to external drive. SyncbacPro can also be used to backup to OneDrive which is off-site with Microsoft. Pleased with both.
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Apr 21, 2023 13:04:44   #
jonyrot wrote:
I ditched Adobe years ago after the company lied to people purchasing their software and Adobe had "promised" not to go to subscription based software. DXO does everything that I need to do..


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