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Dec 2, 2020 15:39:00   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Are you off your rocker?

It was trump and his hand picked Post Master General who made the 2020 General E******n dishonest! The Post Master started slowing down mail deliveries as early as July, in the hopes that the public wouldn't notice.

But the alarm was sounded in time to educate v**ers that they needed to take precautions and measures to request their b****ts early, and return them ASAP.

The only way to ensure that your v**e was counted in heavilly Democratic leaning cities and states, especially in "Swing States", was to v**e in person if you didn't receive and return your mail in b****t at least a month before the e******n.

Even if you did return your b****t in time, you were at risk of having it disallowed for any number of reasons.

That's why even during the escilating p******c, I chose to chance v****g in person, only to get into a bit of a heated argument with a staunch trump supporter about trump taking my state. I wish I had a way to rub her face in the reality that trump lost big time in my state.

The reason why states were seriously encouraged to change from stictly electronic v****g machines over to paper b****t v**e counting machines was to prevent v****g fraud. Those paper b****ts proved that trump LOST big time in those contested Swing States, as proven by the recounts which trump demanded. It was in those recounts where Biden even picked up more v**es.

And in those v****g districts where the "D******n" v****g machines were used, trump actually saw higher totals than Biden did.

There was NO FRAUD in the 2020 E******n. There has been no proof provided in court, and at least 27 of at least 41 court cases have been dismissed or withdrawn. Judges have repremanded the trump legal team for filing frivilous cases.

Am I as confident of the v****g process as I was 10/15 years ago? No, and it's all BECAUSE of trump interferring in the process, not because of trump of trump trying to claim fraud.

Your original post started out so well, then you went off the mark and started chasing your tail in your lust to support t*****r trump.

trump is only the third President to be Impeached, but as the incumbent, trump LOST his bid at ree******n!

trump and his base refuse to accept the outcome of the e******n, that's nothing but sour grapes!

The difference between 2016, and 2020 is the rhetoric spewed by trump and his base, and the desperate attempts at o*******wing the E*******l College in 2020, which didn't happen in 2016.

Faithless E*****rs are being called for by trump and his base in 2020, but will states hold them to their state constitutional duty and replace them if they don't v**e according to the state constitution?

Dictator wan-a-be trump is throwing temper tantrums and refusing to accept the fact that he LOST the 2020 E******n.

At least in 2016, Hillary Clinton conceded the e******n within the first 24 hours of the polls closing.

We're almost 30 removed from November 3rd, the v**es have been certified in the swing states, and the E*******l College v**ers have been selected. trump is still refusing to accept the results. trump still claims that he won, although all of the v**es in the swing states proves otherwise.

The treats against e******n and elected officials in swing states have gotten to the point that there have been death threats made against several of those officials.

trump has made the situation worse by not calling out those threats and demanding that they stop.

Putin must be really proud of trump for swoing discontent and divisivness across the country!

December 14, 2020 can't come fast enough to put a stop to trump and his base claiming that t***p w*n, but for fraud.

There was NO FRAUD involved in the 2020 E******n!
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I'm firmly seated in my rocker...... V****g fraud occurred.... It's happened in the past but this time your president is calling out those who c***t..... The DOJ will continue investigating claims of V***r F***d..... Sit back down on your kiddie stool and watch
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Dec 2, 2020 15:20:28   #
Bazbo wrote:
Then why does Trump keep losing in court You must have a theory.


Yes... Theory of a combination of elected officials who have a fear of alienating the Democrat v**ers he/she needs for re-e******n....... liberal activist judges who are not interested and upholding the law

Before I get a bunch of feedback.... This is my theory.....
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Dec 2, 2020 00:21:41   #
silver wrote:
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It ism the right of all americans to v**e as they choose..........


I think you meant to say that it's the right of all Americans to v**e as they choose....

Yes... You have the right to v**e..... But, No you don't hold the right to choose the
method of how you v**e.....

State legislation laws dictate the method of v****g..... Legislation / Laws.. Created by people elected into office..... Once these laws are created..... It's not the role of the Governor, or a Judge, or an E******n Official to change those v****g methods.....

Buuuut ..... that's what happened in many states and it was a s**m method to increase the odds of a Democrat win
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Dec 1, 2020 18:29:38   #
Fotoartist wrote:
Barr said no 'widespread v***r f***d'. Of course there was no 'widespread v***r f***d'. There was E******n f***d and It was "targeted fraud" in the key counties of swing states. Paying attention to the court cases.


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Dec 1, 2020 15:26:45   #
Kraken wrote:
Give it up. Barr just announced there was no fraud.


Typical Liberal response...... F**e news

Barr did not say there was NO FRAUD... he said there was no "widespread fraud that could change the outcome of the E******n"

So, I go back to my point.... There was fraud, there was c***ting... We have affidavits sworn testimony a people who will state in court to that fact......

So why is Trump still Fighting? Because we will never TRUST our v**es again until changes and safeguards are set in place..... And Trump's legacy may very well include a national effort to re-vamp our v****g systems! Time will tell....
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Dec 1, 2020 15:12:37   #
Kraken wrote:
How many years do you figure it will take to get the democracy

back to normal after all the damage trump has done?


Define Normal....
If you are suggesting where the Govt is run by the Establishment and the sheep are herded by the Media and the weak accept what GovCo wants to give them? .... I'd say the hope of the LEFT will be January 21st.... But I have a surprise to share, if you did not already know.....

The A****a Far Left, the Socialist far LEFT and the B*M activist are expecting the Establishment to Bend to their demands .... And there will be resistance.....

The RIGHT will not sit idly by either... We will continue to grow in numbers with minorities who are tired of the Democrat Machine suppressing their futures in exchange for Govt pennies and their v**e.

It's gonna be fun.....

Seriously, the old establishment Left and the Conservatives should both hope and pray that both GA Senate races turn red.
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Dec 1, 2020 15:01:26   #
National Park wrote:
He is fighting because he is a narcissist who doesn't know how to be gracious a gracious loser, and he is d**gging democracy down into the cesspool with him.


Democracy is represented by f**r e******ns...... You can deny all you wish, but there was c***ting and fraud.... There are far too many sworn affidavits to this fact..... Will the courts review them? Well PA says naaw... Not important... And I suspect other courts will follow suit, but that does not deny the facts.

If you are still confused why he's fighting.... Please re-read the original post.
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Dec 1, 2020 14:55:54   #
DaveO wrote:
Trumpettes are quick to call any who disagree with them lefties or libs. That's fine except that is is quite apparent that many Pubs do not support the a*********n currently in charge. What is even more amusing is many from both sides pick out what they profess to be facts and are quite unbending in their views and continue spewing many unsubstantiated falsehoods, exaggerations and outright lies. You have no idea what or how much I read/watch, but I can assure that if you broadened your searches you would not be so quick to spread many of the current claims. To argue about them is fruitless. Our own bias and misinformation, plus the fact many do not wish to convert any one else is pointless.
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True, I don't know what you watch..... I'll give you that..... I myself have several MSM aps on my phone and read them..... That's why I am aware of the ommisions they make and the repeated false statements made

But .... what actually.... have I claimed that in your mind is false?
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Dec 1, 2020 12:20:29   #
boberic wrote:
The closing of schools flies in the face of everything that is known about the danger of opening schools. BUT the teachers union wants them closed. So there is political pressure on authorities in the states to close the schools. There is virtually 0 risk. More kids will die of the seasonal flu than from C***d. It is also known that kids do not infect others. Contagion among kids is very low. OPEN THE SCHOOLS. The "cure" is worse thqan the disease




The closing was to incite outrage and fear of C***d... Which in turn was blamed on Trump.... And that influenced v**ers....

Teachers opposed teaching a classroom of healthy students but all hell would break loose if those same Teachers can't shop at Walmart or Protest shoulder to shoulder in the streets...
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Dec 1, 2020 12:14:05   #
Fotoartist wrote:
Kris Krebs on 60 Minutes offered totally implausible opinions and should have been fired.

Georgia's recount to him was sufficient enough to proclaim the entire e******n honest and secure?

That is akin to a bank, when they are told they are holding counterfeit money, counting all their money twice and saying, it's fine, the count is the same.


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Dec 1, 2020 12:13:06   #
DennyT wrote:
Put bluntly. Anyone thinking trump is still fighting the e******n because he is doing it fir America is s fool!!


That was blunt..... And obviously you are presenting a well informed opinion,..... just like our little friend here.....


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Dec 1, 2020 12:00:21   #
dpullum wrote:
V****g machine were always suspect [more refined now] and in Florida in which Baby Bush won by h*****g chads, subjective evaluation, and the butterfly b****t in which you X under the chosen name and by designed trickery v**ed for the person across the page. To top it off, his then Governor brother controlled the Florida v**e.

OK, so b****ts should be uniform nationwide. All mail in. instead of signature the name on the b****t and the thumb print on the registration card and the b****t must match by computer scan. One machine matches thumb print another tallies v**es and the paper can be there for recount.

Bingo short of cutting off thumbs of dead bodies it is a high confidence v****g method. Of course, modernize the game by doing away with e*******l college and make the nationwide popular v**e count.
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Why mail in?

An individual who traveled to Walmart yesterday, should surely be able to travel to the v****g booth tomorrow.... If you are out of the country, bedridden or otherwise unable to v**e in person.... Then request a absentee b****t - have that b****t witnessed and mail it in time to be counted ON E******N DAY.

A National V**er ID Law should be implemented....

States MUST clean up v**er rolls

B****t Harvesting crimes must be vigorously punished

Non-Citizens identified as V**ers must be deported - immediately

Thumb print? I'd have to think about that..

Ending the E*******l College? Man you are old enough to understand why we can't have a popular v**e..... That's simply a Democrat position to make the Coastal States decide e******ns.... Wyoming v**ers will be left behind....
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Dec 1, 2020 11:41:08   #
Frank T wrote:
Trump is fighting because he's afraid of going to jail or worse yet, losing all his money.
What would this buffoon do if he actually had to hold a job, even though his pension will be more than 200K a year, a sum that would be welcome by most people, couldn't pay for his golden toilet?
BTW - Does he still get his pension while he's in prison? That would be a hell of a commissary account.


Are you aware that he's given back every penny he's earned serving this great nation?.... You probably think Trump hotel stays by foreign dignitaries was Trump's purpose as president!

Please Stop!!
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Dec 1, 2020 11:36:38   #
Carusoswi wrote:
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All of the above makes me wonder: are the Trump supporters in this forum just sportsters who purposely throw up ridiculous posts in order to enjoy observing the opposing response of level-headed posters, or do they actually fall for this folly of a man who was never more than an impostor?

Caruso


Seriously?

Your reply solidifies so many views Conservatives have toward Lefties who believe everything CNN and MSNBC says...

If you care anything about our Constitutional Freedoms.... Hope and pray that GA Senate race wins Red....
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Dec 1, 2020 11:26:51   #
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