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Apr 13, 2020 16:50:06   #
Architect1776 wrote:
Thx.
This subject comes up a lot and I wanted to really show besides being a long zoom it is an incredible near macro lens.


I knew you would get called out on your "incredible near macro lens" comment.
I am just surprised it took to page 2.
Some people are just too literal here on the Hog!
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Apr 13, 2020 15:39:58   #
riscpc wrote:
Take a look at this Teardown of the Lens to see how well built it is.

https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/02/canon-100-400-is-l-mk-ii-teardown-best-built-lens-ever/


For those that don't want to read the article, here is the important part:

"I know I can’t really, without showing you dozens of other lenses, do a good job of impressing you with just how robustly engineered this lens is. I will say that the insides look more like what we’d expect to see in a 500mm f/4 or 600mm f/4 lens, rather than a telezoom. It’s by far the most heavily engineered zoom lens Aaron and I have ever seen; and we’ve seen the insides of dozens of lenses in this range.

Well done, Canon engineers, well done"!
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Apr 13, 2020 09:00:53   #
Darren01 wrote:
Raptor.....

This what I believe is a Coopers hawk that usually nests
in the eucalyptus trees across the street. Today he/she stopped
by the trees in my neighbors yard for Easter. Lighting is not great, but I'll take
what I can get...
Hand held at approx. 75 to 100'
Canon 5DMIV
Tamron 150-600
@ 500-600
F6.3
800 shutter
Auto ISO


Nice set


The first gen of that lens is pretty good.
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Apr 13, 2020 08:42:42   #
Architect1776 wrote:
We took a walk on the Susquehanna River at the Hiawatha Landing with the 100-400mm MII only. There are many questions about this lens and misunderstandings. I am showing the versatility if you have just this lens on a walk.
First is at 100mm of a Cherry Tree.
Second is a Bumble Bee.
Third is a Dandelion
Fourth is a Goose way out on the river at 400mm.
Fifth is a Trout Lilly.
The flowers are quite small, perhaps about an inch or a bit more across, the bumble bee most know how small they are, the goose was about 1/2 way across the river.
This should help answer questions about what a great lens this is for a walk on the river or in the woods. The close-ups were all at about 400mm.
We took a walk on the Susquehanna River at the Hia... (show quote)




Well done.
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Apr 12, 2020 14:34:38   #
rjandreoff wrote:
I posted on this topic earlier this year. So....re-post.

Dustin Abbott's youtube piece offers a very valuable assessment on this very topic. After reviewing it, a friend of mine and I went into the field to test it for ourselves. He currently owns the Canon 100-400 L II, paid about $1800 for it, and loves it. After using it for a fews hours (mounted on Canon D5 MIII), it was clear to me that is a terrific lens! 9.9 on a scale of 10. I shoot Nikon (so do not have that choice) and decided to purchase the Sigma lens for B&H (Nikon version) with the dock, B&W filter, 4 year extended warranty, and cleaning kit for $670 plus change. At the end of the field test, we both concluded the Sigma results were quite close to the Canon it terms of overall performance. IQ was almost identical in nearly everything did. But the AF came up short on the Sigma. More than I liked. But then again the Canon's was utterly amazing. Never missed. Sigma's build quality is not what one would call "PRO" like the Canon. But that also lends it to being extremely light and manageable for field use. The Sigma did surprisingly well in close ups, better than specs would indicate. Bokeh was very pleasing. I have read/heard about quite a bit of Chromatic aberration, but we saw little evidence of anything excessive. Easily corrected in post. The Sigma is a REAL value. AND mine worked great right out of the box on D800e and D4 bodies. No dock adjustment needed. I am keeping the lens and using it a lot.
I posted on this topic earlier this year. So....r... (show quote)


Did your friend that shoots Canon Sell his 100-400 and buy a Sigma?
BTW, my Sigma shooting with a 7DII, 5DIV and 6DII needed micro focus adjustment on all bodies.
I tested my Canon lens and came up with 0 adjustment needed on all bodies.
I use Reikan FoCalPro for micro adjustment.
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Apr 12, 2020 14:20:38   #
bhad wrote:
Just looking to compare Canon zoom lens with Sigma. Are there some general pros and cons or is it specific to the indiv lens?

Ex
canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6l is ii usm
Vs

a comparable sigma


The bottom line:
If you can afford the Canon L glass, get it.
If you can't, get Sigma or Tamron.

It's as easy as that.
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Apr 12, 2020 09:00:09   #
jerryc41 wrote:
Before I buy something substantial, I read a lot online. Look for comparisons of the two lenses. I bet there will be quite a few.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sigma+100-400mm+vs+canon+100-400mm&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS889US889&oq=sigma+100-400mm+vs+canon+100-400mm&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l6.8967j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


Just a word of caution about the Sigma reviews. When it was first introduced, it had focus issues.
Roughly 4 months later a firmware update was offered that fixed the focus issues. If you look for Sigma 100-400 reviews, try to find reviews made after November 2017.
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Apr 12, 2020 07:56:50   #
bhad wrote:
Just looking to compare Canon zoom lens with Sigma. Are there some general pros and cons or is it specific to the indiv lens?

Ex
canon 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6l is ii usm
Vs

a comparable sigma


My Sigma and Tamron lenses are backups to my Canon L Glass.
The Tamron 150-600 G2 is back up to my Canon 300 f/2.8 IS with a 2x Converter.

I find that when I use telephoto lenses, I typically use them at the longest focal length 90% of the time.

My sigma 100 - 400 doesn't come close to my 100 - 400 IS USM II in either build quality, IQ or Focus speed and accuracy. In my real world tests, the Tamron and Sigma were really close. The Sigma cost less, that is why I bought it.
I had a Tamron 70 - 200 f/2.8 and really liked it until I bought a Canon 70-200 f/2.8 III. I considered the Tamron the sharpest lens I had until I bought the Canon.

There is a reason why Canon L Glass is more expensive and it is not marketing IMHO.
I am NOT saying the Sigma or Tamron lenses are bad, I am saying that the Canon L Glass is Great.

These are my experiences with my glass.
Your mileage may vary.
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Apr 12, 2020 01:12:56   #
bhad wrote:
Thank you for all the advice given in response to my request.
It looks like this lens is what I'm looking for:

100-400MM F/4.5-5.6 L IS USM EF MOUNT LENS {77}

KEH has used it for under $900
Canon has it new for over $20000

Do many of you go for used gear? I only started to do (almost all) manual shooting about a year ago so I'm new at it. I've never shopped for a lens let alone a used one. On the other hand I'm an amateur and sending over $2000 is a bit daunting.
Please advise.
Thank you for all the advice given in response to ... (show quote)


Remember, this is the ver. I lens not the Ver. II lens.
Look at the reviews for the two versions. The biggest issue I see buying an old, discontinued lens is that Canon will end service for it. I believe KEH has the Ver. II lens for about $300.00 more.
Just a thought.
Good Luck
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Apr 11, 2020 14:20:34   #
Architect1776 wrote:
The T5 is just great. Lenses are a much better investment. Much easier and cheaper to upgrade the camera as you need more capability. You have to go pretty high end cameras to spend as much as a lens and a lens will outlast several generations of cameras. That is why I would go the lens first. Then when you feel the camera is possibly lacking upgrade it.


All due respect, 3fps with a 6 raw image buffer is not great. It is fine for landscape, portrait and perhaps street photography but not wildlife and BIF.

used EOS 7D II and a 400mm F/5.6 is a much better kit.
If the OP wants zoom,Used EOS 7D II and 70-300 IS USM II is a much better kit.

The Canon direct store has the 7DII refurb for 1120.00 or as low as $800.00 for an Ex used version. KEH has the 400mm f/5.6 USM for $800.00.
The EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM is new for $499.00 at the Canon direct store.
The EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II can be had used for as low as $1215 at KEH or refurbed for $1760.00 at the Canon Store.

The bottom line is that for the cost of a new, or even refurb 100-400mm IS II the OP can get a much better camera and an excellent lens for wildlife and bif.
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Apr 11, 2020 12:43:50   #
agillot wrote:
500mm for wildlife would be minimum


Baloney
Just saying.
400mm, with a 1.4extender and a crop sensor camera gives an effective field of view of nearly 900mm.
400mm with a Full Frame Camera and no extender has given me a lot of really good wildlife shots as well as BIF shots.
Heck, my 300mm f/2.8 and f/4 lenses on my crop sensor camera have given me very good wildlife and BIF shots.

It all depends upon how close you can get, the size of the wildlife etc.
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Apr 11, 2020 08:03:58   #
bhad wrote:
Could this lens be used successfully on a Canon Rebel t5 body?


Which lens?
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Apr 11, 2020 07:50:43   #
Architect1776 wrote:
I have the 70-300 USM II as well.
Like it as an affordable option but OP is looking at the 70-200 F2.8 L so I figured the 100-400 MII is in the same price class.
I use the 70-300mm on my 10D at the beach or other places where when swimming etc if damaged not as big a financial loss.


I used mine, before I bought the 100-400 IS L USM II, to shoot soccer games along with my 70-200 f/2.8 III.
Now it is a back up.

The OP has a T5 and likes to shoot wildlife and nature.
I would suggest looking into a used 7DII and keep the T5 as back up or sell the T5.
Getting a EF400mm F/5.6 would allow for this, financially as would the 70-300. Just a thought.
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Apr 11, 2020 07:36:56   #
Architect1776 wrote:
Absolutely.
I use it all the time for birds, wildlife, scenery, close-up of wild flowers and spiders.
Well built like a tank (See Lens Rentals Review) and sharp as a tack. There is no other lens with the versatility of it by any maker especially the amazing close focus ability which is closer than the 70-200 you are looking at and it does it at 400mm so the magnification is much greater.
It sits on my camera a lot of the time, in fact it is attached right now on the coffee table ready for the critters around the house in the spring.
Absolutely. br I use it all the time for birds, wi... (show quote)




If the 100-400 L lens are too much money, I would suggest the 70-300 IS USM II.
Very fast to focus and very good image quality. You can not use an extender with it, however it can be bought refurbed by Canon on their online store for $400.00.

Typically 400mm is considered the minimum focal length for birding, however if you don't want a Prime and can't afford the 100-400LII the 70-300 IS USM II is a good choice. Just don't use it in the rain, although your camera isn't weather sealed either so that shouldn't be a concern.
If you want the further reach and don't mind using a Prime lense, the 400mm F/5.6L is a good choice. It doesn't have IS, however at 1/500+ Shutter speeds and good technique it shouldn't be necessary for outdoor use. KEH currently has them used in Ex and Ex+ between $740 & $800 using a coupon code "CN4A".
This lens is light weight, has a sun hood built in which I really like and comes with a removable tripod mount if you want to use it.
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Apr 10, 2020 12:25:06   #
napabob wrote:
to close for virus safety pal..........


I would say the little guy has more to worry about than just the virus!
Looks like it is going to be breakfast or lunch!
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