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Apr 16, 2017 14:11:08   #
DaveO wrote:
If you're looking for a Mensa meeting,good luck with your search in the Attic. Maybe you could PM Keenan as he may enjoy similar thoughts.

Searching for Einstein in the Attic!
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Apr 16, 2017 14:09:20   #
DaveO wrote:
I look for easier explanations. The stupid polarization we witness runs from Congress all the way down to this forum. Many are dissatisfied for what ever reasons and want change to the extent they will follow the most appealing pied piper. They have hummed the tunes so loudly that they can not recognize lies from facts and essentially are not concerned. Mob mentality...love the Kool-Aid!

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Apr 16, 2017 14:00:05   #
CaptainC wrote:
No need to defend those ideas as they are self-evident.

What terrific argument! Can I use that one next time I am stumped for ideas?
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Apr 16, 2017 13:58:18   #
DaveO wrote:
Guess what,Steve? There are no facial expressions or intonations,so the written word "is what it is or seems to be." Apparently others interpreted as an excuse as well. Emoticons may also help. In addition,it is an excuse frequently used,so don't get too flustered.

You may be right, as I did not elucidate much. I wanted to say that Trump is in a long line of politicians who promise the heavens but cannot deliver it all, and people keep flocking to them over and over again, without ever learning. I see the same hero worship of Trump as I saw with Obama before him. No difference except for ideology. It is way more important to "worship" good ideas than politicians. When people worship "the man" (or woman, or t*********red pig farmer with exhibitionist and bestial tendencies), they tend to overlook the faults that come with him the same way that a lover will ignore his partner's faults.
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Apr 16, 2017 13:47:28   #
Doddy wrote:
Makes you wonder about the remaining 77%?

Perhaps Zombies and Vampires enter into the equation??
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Apr 16, 2017 13:46:27   #
Still waiting for John F. Are you out there? Or is this just another one of those liberals posters who likes to post and run instead of defending his ideas.
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Apr 16, 2017 13:01:23   #
Still waiting for the original poster, John F, to explain his thoughts.
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Apr 16, 2017 12:59:36   #
Kmgw9v wrote:
More than before, when confronted with the failings and bad behavior of Trump, the predicted response is that Obama did it too, or that Hillary would have been worse.
Very lame way to avoid the current t***h about Trump.
Time to wake up.

You too did not read my reply correctly and just inserted your own insinuations that you were expecting to hear.
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Apr 16, 2017 12:57:42   #
DaveO wrote:
Beautiful! The number one reply for Trumps' performance or lack thereof! "But Obama did this or Obama did that..." the patented reply to excuse the liar.

I wasn't using it as an excuse. I was saying that they were both bad. Did you read my reply correctly?
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Apr 16, 2017 11:32:39   #
Wellhiem wrote:
I've just seen what is probably the worst use of statistics ever. An item on the news said " 23% of teenage deaths, on the road, involve young people". Sorry but I was so incensed by this I had to tell someone, and no-one else is up yet.

At least 36% of those deaths involved living beings.
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Apr 16, 2017 11:30:14   #
DaveO wrote:
Time for the Winger chant: "Yeah,but HRC lies!"

Well, this is no different than the eight years of Obama's flip-flopping on his campaign promises. Same old same old... Some people never learn.
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Apr 16, 2017 11:26:52   #

Is that some sort of Joke? That is worse than Keenan. Please tell me your thoughts about the letter.
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Apr 16, 2017 11:07:15   #
davefales wrote:
Textbook case of f**e news: "It seems to be his 19th trip to a golf course since taking office on Jan. 20, according to the New York Times' tracker which says his 18th time was when he visited the West Palm golf course on Friday. Other estimates say it is his 18th visit.

Though Trump doesn't always seem to play golf..."

Shame on the Examiner for not even being able to report if he actually hit a ball.

I like most of the stuff Trump has been doing. I definitely did not like the reporting I heard that he was playing so much golf, though this is the first time I heard that he may not actually be playing golf. I've been to Country Clubs probably three dozen times in my life, and I do not play a lick of golf.
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Apr 16, 2017 10:55:58   #
Cykdelic wrote:
It is impossible to try and compare Scandinavian countries to the U.S. For one, they are all small and homogenous. Also, to be more accurate they are socialistic versus socialist, because all maintain private ownership of productive assets.

They all have high income tax rates, around 50-60% today, to promote massive social spending, but they aren't truly socialist. They do spend money on defense, but it's minimal at best (Norway is the biggest spender at 6 bil/yr, with Denmark and Finland spending tip money! The recent upswing in Russian aggressiveness has woken the Scandis up to the the need for more (finally), but they are starting behind the eight ball. Reasons for their low military spending include just depending on NATO and the U.S. To handle their security needs.

Now, here's a little secret........Scandinavian income taxes raise a lot of revenue because they are actually rather flat as they tax most people at these high rates, not just high-income taxpayers. As an example, the top marginal tax rate of 60 percent in Denmark applies to all income over 1.2 times the average income in Denmark. From the American perspective, this means that all income over $60,000 (1.2 times the average income of about $50,000 in the United States) would be taxed at 60 percent!

Did I mention they are homogenous? Scandinavians follow "the law of Jante," or Janteloven, which they are taught from birth, that they, as individuals, are in no way special, that they are are inferior to society. This is a complete 180 from the U.S. where the right, power, and existence of the individual takes a strong precedent.

Janteloven has 10 commandments:

You’re not to think you are anything special.
You’re not to think you are as good as us.
You’re not to think you are smarter than us.
You’re not to convince yourself that you are better than us.
You’re not to think you know more than us.
You’re not to think you are more important than us.
You’re not to think you are good at anything.
You’re not to laugh at us.
You’re not to think anyone cares about you.
You’re not to think you can teach us anything.

Can you imagine even thinking U.S. parents would/could EVER raise their little darlings like
It is impossible to try and compare Scandinavian c... (show quote)

A great post! I just found this out myself a couple of years ago, the little secret that Scandinavian countries tax EVERYBODY at their high rates, even the poor. In the U.S., the rich bear the overwhelming majority of the taxes.
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Apr 16, 2017 10:51:23   #
sb wrote:
Well - you may be right, but that does NOT make the comment to which you are referring wrong.

We have a lot of socialistic programs that serve as equalizers and safety nets. Without them we would have people dying in the streets. We would have r*******n and ongoing civil war. In one country I spent time in one of the mottos of the revolutionaries was something like: "I will be strong than you: you with your army and I with my hunger".

Consider: public education, social security, Medicare, laws that require hospitals to provide care for you whether you can pay or not, minimum wage laws, worker protection laws, child labor laws, environmental protection laws, food safety laws, and on and on. Money begets money. Power begets power. And without some brakes on that fact of life the poor and weak get stepped on and will eventually rise up. They generally do not win, but they force change that is so much better to develop peacefully.

Hugo Chavez, whom we all think of as a tyrant, and in some ways he was, used to refer to Socialism as being "Christianity in Action" - taking care of the poor. Providing health care, food, and education to those in need. Even China, Vietnam, and Cuba have adapted to the inherent failings of c*******m (people willing to work hard need incentive to do so or at least should not be actively discouraged from doing so!) and have allowed some aspects of capitalism to sneak in. A stable society needs some aspects of both. The "happiest" societies when surveyed are the Scandinavian countries who have a Democratic Socialist form of government. Of course, they also do not spend all their money on war.
Well - you may be right, but that does NOT make th... (show quote)

You are right that we do have some socialistic programs, but I disagree that people would be dying in the streets without them. Before the Roosevelt era we did not have people "dying in the streets." The United States had the highest standard of living in the entire World for most of its history, even before the Revolutionary War. Several of the things you mention are not due to Socialism. Worker Protection Laws, Child Labor Laws, Environmental Protection Laws, and Food Safety Laws are not strictly the result of Socialism, but of every normal civilised society. Modern Workers and Child labor protections started in England in the early 1800's. The Environmental movement had its origins in the U.S. and England in the middle to late 1800's.

You bring up Hugo Chavez, however his example is about the worst case you can make for Socialism. Like Cuba, he took one of the most prosperous countries in Latin America and turned it into one of the poorest, through Socialism. Right now they actually do have "people starving in the streets."
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