Wow. Did you really just say that? You're on a roll today, spewing one i***tic asinine assertion after another on this thread.

I guess you haven't heard of the US Constitutional reference to "innocent till proven guilty?" Newsflash for you, silly man: EVERYONE is technically innocent until charges are filed, no matter how solid the evidence. NO ONE is guilty at the beginning of any investigation. Charges are not filed at the beginning of an investigation, but at the END of an investigation. You either do not know anything about how our criminal justice system works, or you are just pretending to be this clueless. Your attempt to claim that unless it is already proven that a crime has occurred, then a Special Prosecution, or any investigation, is "wasting its time with rumors or conjecture" is the most i***tic nonsense I have ever heard. You have things ass backwards. I'm starting to wonder where you got so good at wordsmithing and bullcrap? Where did you learn how to do this?

Steven, first, thanks for your perseverance in this topic. I have a very bad feeling you are correct in what you've posted. I cannot be sure (yet) but I will seriously investigate what you've pointed out. I do recall several of the "headlines" but do not recall the "retractions". The one that most troubled me was the comment about the State Department. In fact, my recollection is worse. I recall being horrified when I read that Tillerson demanded the resignations of senior State Department officials.

As an aside, I have a great deal of respect for Tillerson in terms of what he's done to date (aside from his initial faux pas of cancelling a trip to NATO because "he was tired".... that "explanation" may be now be open to question. I was initially very skeptical of his appointment, now it seems like he is a very welcome bit of fresh air.

There are initiatives Trump has undertaken that I appreciate... specifically regarding North Korea. There are other things he's said and done that are terribly embarrassing at best... I won't go into it.

This issue is about the role and behavior of the free press. Perhaps I've been too willing to take the Post and NY Times at face value simply because they are saying the things I believe... which poses another question I need to consider!

Thanks for staying with this; I might not like what I learn but I will pursue it.

I find this post on its own thread, following the same most general thesis of my post above, but from the opposite direction. Let me reply:


"The pressing issue of our time, according to the liberal press, is not a nuclear North Korea nor the Iranians developing a nuclear device, it’s the unconfirmed, political charge that Donald Trump somehow colluded with the Russians in defeating Hillary in the last p**********l e******n. And the liberal press continues this diatribe in spite of nearly a year of multi-agency investigations that have produced no evidence at all of such a fictitious collusion.

How is an investigation begun with no evidence of wrongdoing, as with the current Russia thing, and how is an investigation continued when it produces no evidence of a wrongdoing having been committed after a year of delving into the issue? The only thing that started the investigation was the illegal outing of General Flynn by the Obama administration, and the only thing keeping the politically motivated investigation going is the liberal, Trump-hating press and Democrats like Chuck Schumer insisting that stopping the non-productive investigation would be covering up a national security crime. This is all pure liberal, Democrat filth.

But I would interject that a larger point of concern for the welfare of our nation than any colluding Donald Trump or his staff might have done is the hand-in-glove, unconstitutional collusion between the Democrat Party and their cheering squad in the liberal press.

How can a Democracy continue to exist when one party is supported by the constitutionally protected press with its first amendment protections, and the opposing party is daily denigrated and attacked by the liberal press? How can the press honestly report on the actions and policies of the Democrat Party when the relationship between these two entities is so incestuous and anti-Republican?"

The pressing issue of our time, according to the liberal press, is not a nuclear North Korea nor the Iranians developing a nuclear device, it’s the unconfirmed, political charge that Donald Trump somehow colluded with the Russians in defeating Hillary in the last p**********l e******n. And the liberal press continues this diatribe in spite of nearly a year of multi-agency investigations that have produced no evidence at all of such a fictitious collusion.

How is an investigation begun with no evidence of wrongdoing, as with the current Russia thing, and how is an investigation continued when it produces no evidence of a wrongdoing having been committed after a year of delving into the issue? The only thing that started the investigation was the illegal outing of General Flynn by the Obama administration, and the only thing keeping the politically motivated investigation going is the liberal, Trump-hating press and Democrats like Chuck Schumer insisting that stopping the non-productive investigation would be covering up a national security crime. This is all pure liberal, Democrat filth.

But I would interject that a larger point of concern for the welfare of our nation than any colluding Donald Trump or his staff might have done is the hand-in-glove, unconstitutional collusion between the Democrat Party and their cheering squad in the liberal press.

How can a Democracy continue to exist when one party is supported by the constitutionally protected press with its first amendment protections, and the opposing party is daily denigrated and attacked by the liberal press? How can the press honestly report on the actions and policies of the Democrat Party when the relationship between these two entities is so incestuous and anti-Republican?

The intention of the First amendment to the constitution was to ensure that the v****g public heard both sides of an issue from the press, and the press/Democrat collusion perverts that necessary effort to provide balanced news reports from occurring, and this relationship threatens the civility, if not the very existence and continuation, of this great nation.


"The pressing issue of our time, according to the liberal press, is not a nuclear North Korea nor the Iranians developing a nuclear device, it’s the unconfirmed, political charge that Donald Trump somehow colluded with the Russians in defeating Hillary in the last p**********l e******n."

Certainly the continuation of the USA as a Nation and as a World Leader supersedes North Korea (and Iran) by a considerable distance. Any rational person thinks so. Remember this: we have clearly been reading the t***smissions the Russian Ambassador sends back to Moscow--without yet making them public--and the intelligence services were alarmed enough last July to organize a Task Force of the FBI, the remainder of the Justice Department, the Treasury Department (particularly the Financial Crimes people) the CIA and a couple more (if I remember correctly). People who have access to this information were sufficiently alarmed to appoint a special prosecutor to search out the t***h.

The Trump campaign spoke more to the Russians--secretly--than they spoke to anyone else. Then they all--dare I say ALL!) forgot about the conversations, subjecting them to five years in prison for failing to 'remember.' Beauregard Sessions was one--the Attorney General of the Nation; Jared Kushner was another, Trump's primary advisor, who suggested opening a secret channel to communicate with the Russians, unmonitored by the State Department (also severely damaged by the Trump administration) or by intelligence agencies--BUT FORGOT ABOUT IT, and failed to list those meetings upon his application for Security Clearence--exposing him to five years of his own.

These are 'unconfirmed political charges' only to the dishonest, the uncaring, the Russian Sympathetics, the enemies of this nation, in other words of The Trump Admnistration and its supporters. And the security intercepts, not public to you or me but that exist nonetheless, must be damning, and require classified treatment for the time being, possibly at the trials.

But the people involved had information enough to be concerned and appoint a special prosecutor.

"How can a Democracy continue to exist when one party is supported by the constitutionally protected press with its first amendment protections, and the opposing party is daily denigrated and attacked by the liberal press? How can the press honestly report on the actions and policies of the Democrat Party when the relationship between these two entities is so incestuous and anti-Republican?"

Fundamental to the functioning of our nation trial system is an antagonistic relationship betwee the prosecuting lawyer and the defense lawyer, hoping that the contest between the two comes closest to finding T***h. We have the same relationship between the Federal Gevernment and our Free Press. The Government is always held accountable by the aggressive free press; this has always worked for us, and worked well (if noisily) usually to the consternation of teh Government. This is still so. Without an aggressive press counting the Trump lies (almost 500 so far) questioning policy and pointing out corruption, the public has nothing in its defense. Of course Trump would like the press to go, of course he calls it 'the enemy,' he is the one hiding T***h, profiting from corruption, lying, and living violating the law and Constitution.

And finally, "How can a Democracy continue to exist when one party is supported by the constitutionally protected press with its first amendment protections, and the opposing party is daily denigrated and attacked by the liberal press?"

Indeed, that question can be shortened: "How can a Democracy continue to exist...?" Its only hope is a vigorous and aggressive Press, questioning each and every lie, each and every policy, each and every Corrupt Act, each and every Dishonesty and Illegality! Without such a press, we haven't a chance. Without diligence, aggression, and vigor in the face of Hostility, the Nation hasn't a chance. We've seen all this before, in Germany and in Italy, and we and the world paid a horrible price, and we must fight now, vigorously, aggressive, facing hostility and lies, misdirection and corruption!

There is still a chance for a population to stand and resist.

Who Stands Now?

You are unreachable. You have locked yourself inside the Alternative Facts w***e s*******y bizarro world in which today's American conservatives have largely insulated themselves and have thrown away the key. Ok I'm done. I cannot countenance such stupidity and delusional idiocy.

One more thing: You bigoted wingers who are holding our country back from advancing into the 21st century constitute at most 35% of the e*****rate. A lot of you are old and will be dying off over the next 10-20 years. Actually, even sooner, now that you v**ed a plutocratic party and authoritarian f*****t into power who are working as we speak to strip many of you less well off older folks of your health care. The other 65% of the e*****rate, including the millennials who didn't bother to show up in the last e******n, are now energized and fired up. Trump is actually unifying the country, though not in the way he claimed he would before the e******n. He is unifying this 65% of the country against him and the Republican Party. This is you Grumpy Old Pricks last hurrah. Better enjoy it, because your days are truly numbered now after you guys' despicable decision to place our Republic and the world in such peril by bringing this dangerous narcissistic incompetent corrupt buffoon to power.