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Nov 10, 2021 19:05:18   #
David Martin wrote:
Well, you've been given the facts that the studies have yielded up to now. That's what's important.
It gives you a fair chance.
Beyond that it's up to you.


Actually I have been told that the studies are not certain which is why they say might and maybe.
Two words which lack commitment.
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Nov 10, 2021 14:46:28   #
David Martin wrote:
Please read it again. It is not contradictory. It is nuanced and explained at the end of the article.
"they can be as infectious as an unv******ted person. But they are likely contagious for a shorter period of time when compared with the unv******ted, and they may harbor less infectious v***s overall."

Yes, a v******ted person with a breakthrough infection can spread the infection just like an unv******ted person. But for a shorter period of time. And may harbor less infectious v***s, making them less infectious.

It's not a yes-or-no situation. It's more of a case where one can spread the disease to a certain extent, while the other can spread the disease to a significantly greater extent.

And this would apply to symptomatic or asymptomatic. Both can spread the disease.
Please read it again. It is not contradictory. It ... (show quote)


In other words no actual verification other than the speculation in the articles that are full of may and might.
I might be struck by a meteor or I may be hit by a car.
I guess I can prevent it by moving into a deep cave but I won't .
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Nov 10, 2021 14:41:52   #
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The Flu v*****e doesn't bring about immunity, yet it's very effective at keeping people out of the hospital.

Do you get a flu shot?

Every year?

How often have you had the flu, or gotten the flu bad enough that you nearly ended up in the hospital because you hadn't gotten a flu shot?


I've had the flu one time and it was shortly after the one time I got a flu shot.
I'm highly exposed every year being a professional Santa Claus performer.
However that also means that I have to take precautions for not just my health but the client as well.
I got my c***d shots several months ago since I knew that some of my clients would ask about it.
I got C***d in mid October for the second time.
The first being in January.
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Nov 10, 2021 14:14:37   #
dirtpusher wrote:
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/580403-appeals-court-stays-biden-v*****e-mandate-for-businesses


And now Old King Joe tells everyone to ignore the court order and follow his word over the court.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/08/biden-v*****e-mandate-white-house-tells-business-to-go-ahead-despite-court-pause.html
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Nov 9, 2021 23:38:06   #
dirtpusher wrote:
Where you dig that B's up

I got 3 shots no effect way I is with not people


Those statistics are for unv******ted.
I can assure you that C***d is very survivable even without the v*****e which is not actually a v*****e since it doesn't bring about immunity unlike the actual v*****es we have for other illnesses.
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Nov 9, 2021 23:24:53   #
David Martin wrote:
Read these, then we'll talk.

"Study: Those V******ted Who Get C***D Carry Less V***s"
https://www.webmd.com/v*****es/c****-**-v*****e/news/20210702/study-says-v******ted-people-who-get-c***d-carry-less-v***s

"V******ted people are less likely to spread C***d, new research finds"
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/v******ted-people-are-less-likely-spread-c***d-new-research-finds-n1280583

"Fully v******ted people might not be as contagious as you think"
https://www.deseret.com/c****av***s/2021/8/23/22637699/fully-v******ted-people-not-contagious-c***d

"New Data on C****-** T***smission by V******ted Individuals"
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/new-data-on-c****-**-t***smission-by-v******ted-individuals

"No, V******ted People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the C****av***s as Unv******ted People"
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/the-v******ted-arent-just-as-likely-to-spread-c***d/620161/
Read these, then we'll talk. br br "Study: T... (show quote)

That last Link is self contradictory in the headline says that they aren't as likely yet quoting the article.
"THE NEW DATA SAYS THAT A FULLY V******TED PERSON WHO EXPERIENCES A BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION CAN SPREAD THE V***S JUST AS MUCH AS AN UNV******TED PERSON. IS THIS ONLY FOR SYMPTOMATIC INFECTIONS?"
The others are not concrete in the assertions and deal with it might be less infectious but there's an old saying. mites grow on chickens asses
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Nov 9, 2021 21:30:53   #
David Martin wrote:
Actually that data show that it is true.
Less likely to become infected than the unv******ted.
Also
If infected, shorter duration, less contagious, less severe illness, less likely to die.
Assuming immunity is maintained by getting booster(s) as needed.
Same thing likely applies to "natural" (meaning post-infection) immunity, including need for boosters.


I'm still waiting for the proof of less contagious
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Nov 9, 2021 21:29:07   #
dirtpusher wrote:
Would you rather be legally correct and just plain graveyard dead


Legal and alive.
You have a 3in a hundred chance of getting c***d which has a 99% survival rate.
Most people are perfectly fine if they don't get the King Joe ordered shot
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Nov 9, 2021 20:48:54   #
dirtpusher wrote:
In this case common sense


Common sense is not legal grounds
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Nov 9, 2021 20:36:43   #
David Martin wrote:
Salmonella is a bacterium. But perhaps self-identifies as a v***s?


Either way I was saying that the POTUS doesn't have the authority to order civilians to get a medical treatment although you would rather argue over something else I guess
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Nov 9, 2021 14:28:06   #
David Martin wrote:
Yes it can happen. Depends in part on how long ago you completed v******tion. Depending on your age and medical condition, immunity is much lower after 6 months.

It is also true that breakthrough infections in the v******ted tend to be less severe, shorter in duration, shorter period of being contagious, and less life threatening.


Can you please provide some type of proof as to it being less contagious after v******tion since the one that my wife and I caught it from was also fully v******ted and she still got it hard and spread it.
Please don't say anything about her since we just learned that she was taken off the ventilator and died just this morning from C***d.
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Nov 9, 2021 13:42:51   #
dirtpusher wrote:
Trying follow
lead of repukes an if you research the source history you'll come up same


If it is a f**e why is the FBI trying so hard to get ahold of it?
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Nov 9, 2021 13:41:21   #
dirtpusher wrote:
Trying stop spread of v***s did you ñot get that figured out


Still doesn't Grant the POTUS the authority to order the civilian population around.
What is next he will order restaurants and stores to quit selling eggs since that means less people getting salmonella which is caused by a v***s as well.
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Nov 9, 2021 13:32:38   #
DaveO wrote:
Wow, what a great and convincing argument!


And factual as well.
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Nov 9, 2021 13:25:08   #
dirtpusher wrote:
Repukes convince themselves


I'm finding it quite amusing that the right are always saying that Trump was trying to be a monarch yet are adamant about defending Joe for literally overriding his authority and ordering private businesses to do his bidding and get a v******tion.
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