Posts: Steven Seward | Ugly Hedgehog

usnpilot wrote:

Not so, it ended two months later when the last of the troops pulled out. But you were close.

I didn't quite understand your timeline. Are you saying the protests ended two months after the draft was eliminated?

Jun 1, 2017 18:57:18 #

phcaan wrote:

And where exactly does that encompass spitting and cursing at men who were not sniveling cowards and answered the call of their country? Demonstrating is one thing, but the filthy unwashed dirtbags that spit on me and others were not demonstrating, they were d********g, and from that I got all the understanding I needed for the left. I will say that those who assaulted me will remember the experience for the rest of their lives, and I found the experience quite gratifying.

I've often heard that all the Vietnam War protests stopped as soon as the draft was eliminated. If so, that would say a lot about the self-serving motivations of the protesters.

Jun 1, 2017 18:53:03 #

As photographers, are we artists?

thom w wrote:

Some photographers are artists, others are documentors. Some create, others merely record.

I can tell you one thing. The photographs that you see in museums as "Art" are usually the most God-awful looking photographs you have ever seen. Random photos from any amateur photography site are infinitely better than what you see coming from so called "artists.

Jun 1, 2017 18:46:43 #

I'd like to add something to all this Vietnam War talk. Many people seem to think that it is accepted conventional wisdom that "the reasons for the war were stupid." I don't see protecting people from being massacred by their neighbors as being stupid. You may rightfully argue that we have no responsibility to protect other countries or people, or that we can't do it efficiently, or that we just don't feel like sacrificing for them, but I don't know how you can argue that it is morally wrong. Even if the original reasons were flawed, like the f**e Bay of Tonkin story, the fact is that South Vietnam was being overrun by C*******ts for no other reason than to control or destroy them.

If I were living in a Third World Country being invaded by genocidal monsters, I would rejoice to high heaven if some foreigners came in to save my life and society. Am I just too naive about this?

Jun 1, 2017 18:28:18 #

nakkh wrote:

Ok let's take the 105 number. Is that acceptable to blast 105 innocent people out of existence?
Hint: no.
If a country did that to Americans in the US would that make the headlines?
Hint: Yes, America would be losing its collective s**t.

Trump is not being careful at all, and the increased number of innocent deaths
it will blow back and be used as a ISIS recruitment tool.

You are correct, no number of innocent deaths is good, but it is not correct to exaggerate either.

Jun 1, 2017 18:22:49 #

Proof that Germans are smarter than Trump v**ers

Frosty wrote:

Do you think she should have used the RNC server like Bush-Cheney-Rove did .......or was that okay because they are republicans?

Has anyone confirmed there were top secret communications on the server? Just a question because I don't know.

Here Frosty, from Politifact:

"In total, the investigation found 110 emails in 52 email chains containing information that was classified at the time it was sent or received. Eight chains contained top secret information, the highest level of classification, 36 chains contained secret information, and the remaining eight contained confidential information. Most of these emails, however, did not contain markings clearly delineating their status."

http://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/06/hillary-clinton/fbi-findings-tear-holes-hillary-clintons-email-def/

Jun 1, 2017 18:16:30 #

Trumpsplainers?!?

thom w wrote:

That is probably true, but it shouldn't be. It's because of capitalism run a muck. Entertainment pays better than journalism.

I think you hit the nail on the head!

Jun 1, 2017 18:11:35 #

As photographers, are we artists?

user47602 wrote:

back on topic... here's a painting I'm working on, about 95% complete (hands are hard! so are eyes, but I dodged that bullet) also, the nips are a bit prominent... she was naked, first, but then decided to put on something...

Hey, that is pretty good User! I didn't know you could paint. It is very smooth like an oil painting, but I detect the texture of watercolor paper. Overall design is terrific. Great color scheme. Did you use a model or did you make her up? And did you consider adding Gilligan or the Professor in the background???!

Jun 1, 2017 18:00:56 #

Is Nato being weakened by the President's words?

thom w wrote:

Transcripts of the conversation are available. Ambassador Glaspie told Saddam that the US was unconcerned about Arab on Arab violence. Afterwards the US said gotcha. I'm not calling names, you may be smart enough, but you need to read up on this one. I have no idea the motive. There may not have been one. Glaspie may have just screwed up.

I am not disputing the account of Ambassador Glaspie at all. I am just saying that him telling Saddam that the U.S. won't bother him is no kind of excuse to invade another country. The book that somebody else posted said that the U.S. "tricked" Saddam into invading Kuwait. As I pointed out, being "tricked" into invading Kuwait implies that Saddam did not want to do it in the first place, and the U.S. forced him into doing it. This idea is pure lunacy.

Jun 1, 2017 17:48:56 #

Gypsies, Trumps and Theives, Can The USA Withstand The Attack?!?

thom w wrote:

Doing enough Oxy that you end up with a cochlear implant is a bit over the top. Especially if you are someone who has advocated the death penalty for drug offenders.

I can guarantee you that Rush Limbaugh never advocated the Death Penalty for drug offenders, unless of course they k**led somebody. If you can find a quote backing up your assertion, I will proudly apologize to you.

Jun 1, 2017 09:24:37 #

Is Nato being weakened by the President's words?

BigWahoo wrote:

I didn't use the word 'tricked'.

You might notice that I included a link to the article and book. I realize it might not be in agreement with what you wish to believe.

Personally I prefer to hear both sides of an idea before I make up my mind.

Agreed.

Jun 1, 2017 08:48:35 #

Is Nato being weakened by the President's words?

BigWahoo wrote:

You may want to look at this: br br br How Bush ... (show quote)

So by not actually interfering, the U.S. "tricked" Sadam into invading Kuwait? Did he not want to invade before he heard this? By using the word "tricked" you are implying that Saddam really did not want to do it, but the U.S. deceptively made him do it. If you are insinuating that the U.S. is somehow responsible for the invasion of Kuwait, this is just nonsense. Heaven forbid that anybody would blame Saddam Hussein for invading Kuwait. By this logic, every single country in the World "tricked" Saddam because none of them threatened to interfere either. Diplomatic niceties are almost completely irrelevant when a tyrannical genocidal dictator is involved.

This story may be true, but I think it is completely meaningless.

Jun 1, 2017 07:19:05 #

usnpilot wrote:

Congrats fool, that is the most i***tic post anyone has made lately.

There are so many contenders. The decision must have been difficult!

Jun 1, 2017 06:13:01 #

Gypsies, Trumps and Theives, Can The USA Withstand The Attack?!?

SharpShooter wrote:

Never in the history of the United States have so ... (show quote)

Hey Chicken Little, the sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Jun 1, 2017 06:09:43 #

As photographers, are we artists?

Rab-Eye wrote:

Thank you for acknowledging it was apolitical. You are a good man.

I wasn't totally convinced of all his assertions. There definitely was a loss of technology after the Roman Empire fell, and it took a long time for Europe to catch back up again. Visual Arts suffered a great loss as well compared to what the ancients had achieved, though he was absolutely right about the grandeur of Medieval Cathedrals. That is where the artists and artisans excelled.

Warfare and Defense were at a low level, which is why the Muslims were able to conquer so much European territory. It wasn't until 1683 at the Battle of Vienna that Europe began turning back the Muslim Tide. I am curious about mathematics. This is a crucial field for developing any advanced technology. Does anybody know how the Medievals fared?