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Apr 3, 2014 19:23:31   #
Great shot!
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Apr 3, 2014 02:05:17   #
Basil wrote:
I had been looking at buying an ultra-wide lens for my 7D and it was looking like either the Canon 10-20 or the Tokina 11-16mm (I was leaning heavily towards the Tokina based on many many reviews I'd read). So how did I end up buying a 24-105?

Well, I have one "L" lens - the 70-200 F4L and absolutely love that lens! So, when I ran across a really good deal on a 24-105 "L" lens (a new lens with warranty that was even less $$ than Adorama sells the lens "refurbished") I thought, boy it would be nice to have another quality "L" lens and this one could replace the 28-135 kit lens I have! So, given the price was very good, I decided I can always get the Tokina 11-16 later down the road and this 24-105 will make a great (I hope) every day lens to replace my current everyday lens (the kit lens).

Am I nuts? Maybe, but I can't wait to get my hands on this new L lens and try it out.

Just wondering if anyone else has this lens on a crop-frame? (I know it won't be a real wide angle on a crop camera, but certainly wider than the 28-135 it replaces).
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I've been looking at the 24-105L too for my crop sensor camera. My friend loaned me his 28-135. I think the 24-105 will be a very useful focal range. It will complement the focal ranges of my other lenses. I have a 12-24 Tokina, Canon 70-300, 100 macro, and 50mm prime. The 24-105 will make my kit complete. I can also give the 28-135 back to my friend.

I also looked into the faster 24-70L series II but it's twice the price and way more than I want to spend.

Stan
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Apr 3, 2014 02:05:16   #
Basil wrote:
I had been looking at buying an ultra-wide lens for my 7D and it was looking like either the Canon 10-20 or the Tokina 11-16mm (I was leaning heavily towards the Tokina based on many many reviews I'd read). So how did I end up buying a 24-105?

Well, I have one "L" lens - the 70-200 F4L and absolutely love that lens! So, when I ran across a really good deal on a 24-105 "L" lens (a new lens with warranty that was even less $$ than Adorama sells the lens "refurbished") I thought, boy it would be nice to have another quality "L" lens and this one could replace the 28-135 kit lens I have! So, given the price was very good, I decided I can always get the Tokina 11-16 later down the road and this 24-105 will make a great (I hope) every day lens to replace my current everyday lens (the kit lens).

Am I nuts? Maybe, but I can't wait to get my hands on this new L lens and try it out.

Just wondering if anyone else has this lens on a crop-frame? (I know it won't be a real wide angle on a crop camera, but certainly wider than the 28-135 it replaces).
I had been looking at buying an ultra-wide lens fo... (show quote)


I've been looking at the 24-105L too for my crop sensor camera. My friend loaned me his 28-135. I think the 24-105 will be a very useful focal range. It will complement the focal ranges of my other lenses. I have a 12-24 Tokina, Canon 70-300, 100 macro, and 50mm prime. The 24-105 will make my kit complete. I can also give the 28-135 back to my friend.

I also looked into the faster 24-70L series II but it's twice the price and way more than I want to spend.

Stan
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Apr 3, 2014 01:32:39   #
haroldross wrote:
There is a difference but sometimes it may not be readily apparent. The optics are first class and so is the build of the lens. Most of the L series lens are built like a tank- built for heavy duty use.

That being said, there are some great non-L Canon lens. The EF 100 f/2.8 Macro is a prime (no pun intended) example. It is a superb lens even compared to the L version. Concerning 50mm lens, I have found the EF 50mm f/1.4 to do as well or better than the EF 50mm f/1.2L. Again, the L series lens are built to last.

If you never do anything with your photos except view them on your computer monitor or print 5x7 or smaller prints you may not see any difference. On thing note is most L series lens have excellent contrast and for me that stands out. You can fix contrast in post and you can fix chromatic aberration in post. Any time you fix these types of lens issues, you will lower the image quality slightly. With a good lens there will be less work needing to be done in post.
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I love the non L 100mm macro lens.

Contrast and color can easily be fixed with camera settings or PP software. I have my camera settings tweaked for saturation, contrast and sharpness because I don't have time to PP everything I shoot. These settings only affect the jpgs, not the Raws. I still have the option to work Raws in PP if I want.

I don't have an L lens but I would like to have one. I'm looking into a 24-105L as a general purpose walk around lens. I think that is the focal range I'd use the most. The 24-70L series II is a better lens but twice the price. I just can't justify spending 2k. If I was a working pro, I would get the 24-70L. Since I'm not a working pro, I've decided to go with the slower 24-105L.

Regardless of what one has, the lens is only going to be as good as the shooter. I'd take shooting skills over an expensive lens anyday. Tools are only as good as the craftsman that uses them. I'm still working on my skills with the tools I have.

Stan
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Apr 1, 2014 03:40:53   #
Cassy wrote:
Great Shots!! Welcome! I was born in Sacramento CA. I left there when I was only 8.


Thanks, Cassy. I've lived here all of my life. It's only a 5 minute drive from my house to the location where I took the river shots.

Stan
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Apr 1, 2014 03:35:18   #
rocco_7155 wrote:
Welcome Stan.

By learning you will teach, by teaching you will learn" Latin Proverb


Thanks, Rocco. I love that proverb as I'm a guitar teacher in my semi-retired life.

Stan
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Apr 1, 2014 03:27:42   #
LaurenT wrote:
Welcome Stan, beautiful pictures. Look forward to seeing more. I too would like to know what kind of camera you are now using.


Thanks, Lauren. I replied to xxredbeardxx with my camera and settings. All of my gear is used. That's why I have a Canon 40D. I can't afford a full frame camera right now and I want to learn on what I have.

I have a very technical background as I was a technical director for a TV station. It really helps knowing what the settings are and how to adjust them. I'm still learning and hope to continue learning. One of my sayings is "If one thinks they know everything, they still have a lot to learn."

Stan
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Apr 1, 2014 02:55:50   #
xxredbeardxx wrote:
Welcome Stan. Great shots.
So what camera are you using?
Looking forward to seeing more.


Thanks, xxreadbeardxx. I'm using a Canon 40D/Tokina 12-24mm on the River Sunset shots. I have my camera settings tweak at +2 on the sharpness and contrast. My saturation is set at +3. I keep these settings for everything. To my eyes, those settings work best for me. On these particular sunset shots, I also used -1 exposure compensation to really make the orange and red pop out for the sunset.

The flower shot has the same settings with no exposure compensation. I used a Canon 100mm macro for this one.

I also discovered these settings only affect the jpgs, not the RAWs. If I ever need a neutral shot to work in PS, I can work the RAWS. Unfortunately, my PS skills aren't as good as I would like them to be. That's why my jpgs look better than the stuff I try working in PS.

Stan
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Apr 1, 2014 02:23:40   #
Accelerator wrote:
Very nice Stan. Welcome to Ugly. Shooting like that you could be a monster with a little PP.


Thanks, Accelerator. PP is another skill I have to aquire. I've done some PP but I usually like the way my jpgs turn out better than the jpgs produce from the my raws. I'm still working on it though.

Stan
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Mar 31, 2014 20:06:31   #
Hi, my name is Stan. I've been lurking here for about 8months. I bought my first DSLR camera in March 2013. I've sold that camera and two lenses. Now I'm on my second body and own 4 lenses.

I'm too lazy to do post production work in Photoshop most of the time so I tweak my jpg settings on the camera. I still shoot raw in case I want to do any post production.

Here are a few examples of some recent shots I took without any Photoshop editing.


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