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Sep 14, 2016 15:10:46   #
Your reply is some of the most useless verbal flatulence I have seen on this site. As for your statement, "good honest people" will become "bad folks" sorry but they will carry out their deed with or without guns. Have you forgot about 911, Timothy McVeigh, the Boston Marathon, etc.?
PNagy wrote:
Huey Driver: I don't know do you have any good liberal arguments…

Nagy: My "good liberal arguments" are my own. The proof is in legal arguments I have advanced that did not even appear in the dissenting opinions of District of Columbia v. Heller.


Nagy: "Good honest people" are not being held accountable for what "a few bad folks do." If they were, they would be imprisoned for murders they do not commit. You seem to have difficulty understanding or accepting that a certain percentage of those "good honest people" will become "bad folk" by gunning down a friend, relative, coworker, etc; that it is impossible to predict which of them will become "bad folk," therefore, to preserve the lives of their victims, nearly no civilian should have firearms.

Huey Driver: I think maybe we should ban all knives, cars, hammers, screwdrivers, etc. They seem to k**l people also.

Nagy:

1. knives, cars, hammers, screwdrivers, etc. have purposes without which far more damage would be done than their occasional malevolent misuse. For example, banning motor vehicles would cause the collapse of the infrastructure, resulting in millions of urban residents starving to death, a far greater carnage than the tens of thousands of accidental deaths and the very few murders caused by vehicles.

2. the primary purpose of firearms is to tear through flesh and bone.

3. per unit time in use, firearms cause far more carnage than motor vehicles. The average adult is in his car about an hour a day; that is hundreds of millions of people. The average person does not even own a gun. About a third of the population does, and the guns are kept under the bed or in a cabinet most of the time. For the relatively few moments they are in actual use, they k**l about the same number of people as traffic accidents. Unlike cars they serve not much good purpose.

After making arguments so unbelievably weak, you should consider not labeling what I write as any liberal talking points. You, not I, are the person who is not thinking about this at all, but regurgitating stupid points that somehow impress him. Try canning the NRA line about banning cars, etc. It is too easy to refute.
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Sep 14, 2016 10:21:02   #
I don't know do you have any good liberal arguments as to why good honest people should be held accountable for what a few bad folks do. I think maybe we should ban all knives, cars, hammers, screwdrivers, etc. They seem to k**l people also.
PNagy wrote:
Wellhiem: Rapists who are intent on raping will still rape.
Paedophiles intent on abusing children will still abuse children.
Drink drivers intent on drink driving will still drink and drive.
If there were no laws in place, there could be no prosecution. Laws may not be a deterrent, but they do mean that law breakers can be held to account.

Nagy: And murderers who cannot obtain a gun are less likely to commit the murder. Do you have any other knee-jerk NRA arguments?
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Sep 14, 2016 10:18:09   #
And as I indicated what if and episode happens or starts to happen in the middle of a national emergency? I guess they could just put everything on hold for an hour or so till the person rights him/her self then continue? I think the President of the US has an obligation to the citizens before and during their taking office to be good shape (notice I didn't say perfect) medically. After being elected someone may not be able to control things that happen to them but knowing a problem exists before is a different story. Someone who suffers from occasional bouts of being unable to fulfill their duties even for an hour or so could be a serious problem. Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your position Hillary has not exhibited signs of good health recently and as well as times in the past.
Szalajj wrote:
There are usually enough warning symptoms that an episode can essentially be prevented. The individual just needs to learn their warning signs and take preemptive action; ie. get something cold on the back of their neck really quickly. Episode averted! The key is to cool down their core temperature as fast as possible.
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Sep 13, 2016 22:09:00   #
What if an episode comes on in the middle of a national emergency? I assume recovery time can vary?
Szalajj wrote:
I have suffered from episodes of vaso vagle syncope in the past, gone through cardiovascular and neurological workups, and they never found the root cause. In my case each time a severe cramp somewhere in my body drained my blood from my upper extremities and caused me to pass out for a very short time. But, cooling down quickly can prevent passing out, you just have to catch it early in the cycle for the cool down to keep you conerent. Cool compresses on the back of your neck works the best.

This doctor is basically becoming Chicken Little and crying "The Sky is Falling"!

If it was a syncope episode it's really no big deal, unless they start happening more and more often in some kind of time line pattern.

But, it was most likely was caused by pneumonia related exhaustion.

And yes you can recover rather quickly with rest, cooler temoeratures, and fluids in and short space of time from either of these causes.
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Sep 13, 2016 19:50:39   #
A Congressional doctor weighs in on Hillary's health

Video on what this doctor thinks?

http://foramerica.org/2016/09/congressional-doctor-gives-hillary-diagnosis-not-want-getting/?utm_content=bufferbface&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Sep 13, 2016 13:05:50   #
Are all Hillary supporters r****ded? I'm beginning to think so. Your willing to overlook something that could be potentially serious in a crisis and just overlook it. If someone (Hillary, Trump or anyone else) has a serious medical problem that is apparent and likely could be debilitating during their presidency the public certainly has the right to know before electing them. How would you like to have a POTUS that in the middle of a confrontation with a country like N. Korea suddenly start to have side effects of that disease. The doctor pointed out stress can bring those symptoms to the fore front. In that situation I certainly wouldn't want them making national security decisions.

Why do you say this? What is that right that you speak of?

It is common for politicians to mask physical problems when they run for e******n. Donald Trump masks his medical history even as we speak, doesn't he?

No one asks for an independent medical exam and it ain't gonna happen. Period.

And it isn't important because anyone who v**es for Trump needs an independent mental exam.[/quote]
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Sep 13, 2016 11:46:17   #
Oh what a flimsy reply. Typical Demo response. Confuse the issue by trying to shift everyone's thoughts to something else rather than addressing the issue head on. . Maybe we could blame Bush for this also?
tusketwedge wrote:
Why should she? Trump seems to want everyone to reveal this and that, but he won't reveal anything that he's questioned about. Like the old saying ,Do onto others as you want done to you, or in this case ' do as "I" say no as "I" do'.
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Sep 13, 2016 11:40:37   #
Actually I have no problem with background checks to purchase a firearm but please tell me how is that going to significantly reduce the crimes with guns. I guess the thugs, drug dealers, etc. will just openly submit to a more stringent back ground check if that's the law and if they don't pass they will willingly turn in guns they already have? All the laws we now have or will have in the future will only work against the honest person. Bad guys intent on doing harm with a firearm don't give a rat's ass about laws. As far as immigrants that Hillary and Obama want to bring into this country maybe we can house a dozen or so at your house. That will to a small extent help the American taxpayers as that will be a few we won't have to support on the welfare rolls. I know you must assume that most of these people are sk**led workers and would have no problem assimilating into our society and finding a job where they could support themselves?
PNagy wrote:
Huey Driver is a perfect example of what happens when one's thinking is infected by Fixed News. The US has by far the highest murder rate of all advanced nations, but that is no problem to him. He apparently opposes background checks, but is adamant against allowing Syrian refugees into the country on the premise that some of them are probably terrorists. He accuses the Democrats of allowing them into the courtly without properly screening them, although he has not the slightest proof for this. Thus, to him, the proven mortality caused by guns in private American hands is not an issue. The hypothesized threat of Syrians admitted to the country is.

The most devastating example of this thought process was Bush II choosing to attack Iraq because, among other false charges, it was working on developing an atomic bomb. North Korea already had the atomic bomb, but Bush attacked the country he said might develop one. Once again, the real problem was less of a concern than a hypothesized, indeed, fabricated one.
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Sep 13, 2016 11:05:06   #
This should go v***l

A little long but this doctor certainly seems like he has some compelling evidence about Hillary's medical condition. I'm sure as usual Democrats will try to just excuse it with some smoke screen of one kind or another. The American public has a right to know if this is true before the e******n and the only way for that to happen is for Hillary to submit to an independent physical (the key word is independent - is there such a thing)? Will she take a physical, probably not unless forced to do so.

Subject: Hillary Clinton's Illness Revealed - YouTube



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr1IDQ2V1eM&sns=fb
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Sep 12, 2016 18:30:04   #
A one paragraph question to Hillary and liberals that support her

Can you please explain to me why you think we need an expansion of the background check system we now have for citizens to purchase a firearm? At the same time you want to bring thousands of refugees into the United States from countries like Syria, etc, even after the FBI states they can not be properly vetted or vetted at all. Any rational thinking person would know the possibility exists that some may be terrorists? I do not understand that logic.
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Sep 12, 2016 17:35:52   #
Sorry but if you live with the enemy you are subject to die with the enemy. That's just a reality of war. I'm not saying we shouldn't try and avoid civilian casualties but if that's your main objective rather than exterminating the enemy you will never win at war.
Twardlow wrote:
At least you would have k**led many civilians and embassy workers in hiding or in isolation.

Twenty MM isn't so good when you don't know what your shooting at.

I saw reports that one General thought that if we just flew over the city real low and real loud, the bad guys would get scared and run away.

Say what you want, these guys don't look like the 'run-away type' to me.
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Sep 12, 2016 09:56:22   #
At least we would have tried. I'd h**e to be in the military right now and Hillary as POTUS and expect her to have my back.
Twardlow wrote:
In an urban setting...


Wonderful, beside it was probably all over before they got there.
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Sep 11, 2016 21:11:10   #
Don't know why you would say that. Those 20mm cannons are extremely accurate and could have moped up those trying to overtake the embassy especially the ones outside the perimeter trying to get in. At least given our men a heck of a lot better fighting chance.
Twardlow wrote:
A lot of good they would have done in B******i....
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Sep 11, 2016 18:19:19   #
No but they do carry missiles, bombs and cannons
Twardlow wrote:
Hillary and Obama don't dress the soldiers, dummy.

The officers were dithering.

And those jets you mention don't carry many soldiers, do they?
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Sep 11, 2016 12:58:29   #
We may as well face reality. As they say "rank has it's privileges". Nothing is ever going to be done to Hillary no matter what evidence shows. If Congress had some balls they would have charged her with lying under a congressional investigation which I think is a felony?
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