I feel like most folks here have lost all perspective and now have a one track mind.

If a few were smart to begin with, now it is not the case. There is no real argumentation based on analysis and critical thinking taking place here, just folks taking a position however right or wrong it is and start insulting anyone who dares disagree with it.

Most if not all supposedly 'proof' offered through links and quotes come from propaganda site within the US, the rest from abroad. Research and verification is dead. Just claim something and find a site however wacko it is and use it as 'support'.

The earth is flat? Easy.
Conspiracy? Easy.
Trump lies? Easy.
Bidden lies? Easy.

Just type the questions above and you will find a slew of links to support the allegations...

Now if one takes the time to investigate the link(s) used??? Ouch, not so easy but then again... It's on internet so it must be true. Same reasoning as when TV was new, the radio, the printed press...

So, WHERE is your critical thinking? When do you start questioning your sources agenda, bias and the like? When do you start reading and learning about was the other side is using (the same rather stupid way)? But mostly? When do you do your own research?

When I start giving credence to something the first thing I do is I try to destroy it by finding sources that are from the opposing points of view, verify their claims and then either modify/abandon/refute what was my initial impression.

I will not hide that politically I am dead set against the GOP as it is a party who has perverted and abandoned all that it stood for once upon a time. The decline is not recent but started decades ago when that party started it 'religious' political agenda. Now this party is reduced to bankrupt politicians only able to bow and offer their **** to their great leader with a few precious exceptions.

I am fiercely opposed to the still president of the US because of his r****m, lies, demeanor and profound dishonesty. At the same time I am angered by the media that refuses to expose the true nature of this man and divert the attention from what is really important by using distortion, innuendoes and lies. Talking heads prevail on both sides and all are serving their own masters, not the t***h.

A man who starts his campaign with a r****t rant should never have been able to rise to the presidency yet here we are, four years later, in a country divided over the economy, r****m and an e******n that was the most scrutinized in history!

One good thing in all these years... By having a 'closet' r****t in the white house the population has shown its true colors. There is no way to sweep r****m, bigotry and exploitation under the rug, something I fear the next guy will try to do under the name of 'reconciliation'.

I do not want 'reconciliation' nor do I want a 'reckoning' I want a true approach to the issues leveled and find a positive solution that does not include hiding behind a rock, a head in the sand of the three monkeys. We need a hard confrontation to really determine what we stand for as individual first then as a country.

To achieve lofty goal this we need critical thinking. The last part is a lacking all over, as displayed here and elsewhere, UHH 'debates' are sadly not unique and show the mental illness that is perverting society and prevent decent conversation.