There was at least one discussion here about the longer lens not being VR. I think it was first noticed in the images of the kits.

I wouldn't say there is blame on anyone's part. Nikon and the store provide exactly what they offered. The OP purchased what they offered. He did not read the description before buying and got what he paid for. Had the store said, give me another fifty and I'll give you a better lens, they would have been accused of bait and switch.

Reading all the words isn't a bad idea in many situation. But most of us get lazy at times.

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Once again, sorry if I misinterpreted what you were saying! You never mentioned the 85mm by name, nor did you mention the 24-70mm. I did mention I had not gone backwards to read previous posts, although I had read them previously. Perhaps I ought to do that, but perhaps you should also try to be more specific. There are others who probably only understand a post by what is said in it, too.

You are right about the "quote reply" - I probably sort of glossed over it because it was at the bottom of the page.

We all make mistakes, I apologize for this whole line of misunderstanding!
Susan

I saw what was at the bottom of your post, but did not see anything but a link. Based my response on what you were saying in your post. Sorry if I did not realize you were not talking about the 24-70mm, but rather about some other lens you did not specifically mention. I do read all the posts in a thread, but do not go backward, only forward as more are added.

Regardless, I disagree that the 24-70mm is "a somewhat limited lens on a crop frame camera". Perhaps you read my post where I mentioned that I used the Nikon 24-70mm on my D7000 for about a year before buying the D810. So I cannot understand why you describe it that way. I could use it on the D7000 in the same way I now do on the FF camera, shooting a wide variety of subjects and getting good pictures, and the crop factor did not bother me at all.

The 85mm f/1.4 prime lens is undoubtedly a great lens. But the problem with it, especially on a crop sensor camera, is that it has only one focal length, which would be similar to using the 24-70mm only at 70mm all the time. The zoom allows you to open up or narrow down without moving from your position, whereas with prime lenses you have to move your feet in order to change the perspective.

I agree with you that lenses should be purchased with an understanding of their capabilities and their best uses. Not because of a GAS attack! For me, the versatility of a short zoom lens makes sense because sometimes I cannot find another position to get the view I am looking for.

Susan

I would like some opinions on the advantages upgrading to either a Nikon D500 or a Tamron 24-70 g2.
I currently have a Nikon D7100. I have a macro, a 10-14 wide angle, and other lenses. I use a 16-300 Tamron for most of my pictures. I seem to use it mostly in the lower ranges. I do not have a 2.8 zoom. I also take almost no sports or action pictures and usually use a tripod if possible.

Which of the two options will be the best upgrade in the quality of pictures?

Thanks for any help and your opinions.

Terry Sandlin