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May 10, 2017 17:42:16   #
cambriaman wrote:
That's why a good photo instructor teaches you to understand light measurement and the limitations of it. And... some rules like measure a neutral surface then open up a couple of stops for snow or close down a couple for deep shadows. Or how to bracket if you don't like thinking.



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May 10, 2017 17:37:30   #
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
A film negative is to raw what a Polaroid instant print is to jpeg.


Kind of yeah. And yet Polaroids are professional too.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/seven-famous-photographers-who-used-polaroids-97986365/
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May 10, 2017 17:31:02   #
photoman022 wrote:
I disagree with your assessment as shooting "according to what the camera's meter says is the correct exposure, etc." By shooting in manual I can (and do) manipulate the exposure to give me the results I am looking for. An example, I was shooting giant nuts and bolts on a power line pylon with my Tammy 28-75 f/2.8; by manipulating the aperture I was able to have all the nuts and bolts in focus; the first nut and bolt in focus and the rest out of focus; the last nut and bolt in focus and the rest out of focus; the other nuts and bolts in focus while other were out of focus in varying degrees.

I shoot in manual the vast majority of the time, but I do so with the knowledge that I can manipulate the image to do what I want. A portrait of my grandson with everything in focus (f/16) is not as pleasing as the photo with him in focus and the background blurred (f/4 and larger). I guess you could say that I could do that in aperture priority mode, but I am the one making the choices and decisions, not the camera and its algorithms.
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You actually agreed with the OP (sort of). Your examples aren't describing overriding what the camera's meter says is correct exposure, they are examples of the aperture and shutter speed combo you select to create the depth of field or blur you want which is exactly what you would get if you used aperture or shutter priority, like the OP said.
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May 10, 2017 17:13:09   #
G Brown wrote:
Raw in itself is not an instant 'fix'. It is not intended to 'undo' any mistakes made in camera. It is simply a broader spectrum of data available and Raw processing can make finer and more subtle changes than most basic Jpg only programmes.

The whole Post Processing argument is based upon a person's ability to 'see the difference'. The same argument can be used for different camera's, lenses, filters etc. Some people 'get it' and others don't....

Photography is about YOU getting what you want. There is a whole industry set up for you to achieve your goal. Advice is only good advice if it works for you.

'The Best Choice' is a sales gimmick and has nothing to do with YOUR choice.

Have fun in whatever you do.
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May 10, 2017 17:11:17   #
lowkick wrote:
Were the photographer's actions causing any problems for the guests at the wedding? Did you see the results of the photographer's work? I suggest that if the photographer's process didn't cause any conflict with guests or other workers at the wedding, and his result were good, then his work is professionally done. Again, chimping is not a derogatory term, just an acronym to describe a useful function of digital cameras.


Chimping isn't an acronym it was coined as a term because of how foolish and monkeylike people who were doing it looked to other photographers. It often is used in a derogatory manner and I find it to be a terrible habit that causes you to miss the action going on around you. If you really want to do it though it's your camera; go ahead and chimp all you want. To be clear, the term is most often applied to photographers who check every (or nearly every) image they take immediately after every single shot, it isn't the act of occasionally checking your images to verify everything is going well.
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May 10, 2017 16:44:45   #
Rab-Eye wrote:
No, I quite understand the modes. My point is simply that using manual to put the meter's bar smack in the middle is no better than using aperture or shutter priority. Perhaps I should have been more explicit about the reason for my post being to challenge the mantra that serious photographers only shoot in manual. I've been shooting for over 45 years, and, I know when to use which mode, when to go manual, and how to compensate for different subjects.


I think you made yourself pretty clear and I agree. For exposure there is no functional difference between setting aperture and shutter speed in manual mode versus using a semi auto mode if you are exposing based on the meter's recommended exposure. Beyond that some people prefer exposing over or under the recommended exposure manually and some prefer doing it using exposure compensation. Same result occurs. The big difference happens when in rapidly changing conditions where it can save you a lot of time and missed shots by using a semi auto mode compared to full manual.
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May 10, 2017 12:39:07   #
rook2c4 wrote:
The article seems to confuse the definition of professional photographer with that of skilled photographer. One can be a professional photographer and have fairly limited or even relatively poor photography skills.


Agreed, also I had quite a laugh when I read the list of equipment it said you must own to be a professional.
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May 10, 2017 11:05:00   #
nikonbrain wrote:
I believe the op is missing the point about manual mode. In manual mode the camera is not influenced by the meter unless the operator of the camera makes the changes the camera recommends .


I think that was the OP's point. That a lot of people who shoot in manual are exposing based on what their meter says anyway so it isn't really any different than just shooting in auto (assuming similar aperture/ shutter speed/ ISO settings are being selected)
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May 10, 2017 10:54:20   #
Beyond the technical aspects it also has a lot with how you view photography, yourself as a photographer, and your tools. If you just want to get nice looking image from a camera without a lot of hassle shooting jpg is fine. Or if you want to just concentrate on composition and the moment in front of you then jpg may be best. If you think of capturing the image as just one part of the art of photography you might see that by shooting jpg you are turning over a lot of the creative decision making process from yourself to the camera.

There is nothing wrong with either method. Even famous photographers of the past had different approaches to it. Someone like Ansel Adams would not likely be a jpg shooter for example as to him controlling processing and printing was just as important as the image taking process. On the other hand you have photographers like Henri Cartier-Bresson who would probably be using a camera in a semi-automatic or even fully automatic mode and shooting in jpg. He might just use a smartphone. He only really cared about capturing the right composition and moment in camera and not in the darkroom. If it works for you its not wrong.

My own preference is shooting in RAW because I want to be the one to decide the level of saturation different colors or areas of the image will have, I want to decide the contrast, sharpness, nose levels, etc. If I'm going to do all that anyway I may as well do it with the RAW file where I have more image data to work with. Also I hate worrying about white balance in camera.
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May 10, 2017 10:18:03   #
Gene51 wrote:
You can post images up to 2048 px on a side. It will fill and HD display screen. They would look like this:

https://www.facebook.com/gene.lugo.7/media_set?set=a.10155225565019844.1073741983.518409843&type=3&pnref=story


Hi Gene, yes I was referring to compression not pixel dimensions.

Also, using a site like Flickr or other site dedicated to photography would allow for people to download the full resolution of the images and an easy way to order prints if that is what the photographer wants.

Lovely waterfall images by the way.
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May 10, 2017 10:04:55   #
kerry12 wrote:
I use mostly shutter priority. However, there are times I use manual. But I am extremely old school in that when I use manual, I also use a hand held exposure meter. This usually happens when the camera's setting doesn't give me the exposure that I wanted or I don't think it will before I start shooting. This is mainly on stationary subjects or outside portraits where I can get a reading up close.


Not to forget also that using a handheld meter can also just be plain fun.

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May 10, 2017 09:55:36   #
paulrph1 wrote:
You are somewhat correct. Manual mode is for those that know exactly what they are doing where the camera companies have invented the other modes for those that do not want to figure out or are to lazy to understand the processes.


I'd say it was the light meter that was invented for those who don't want to figure out or are too lazy to understand the processes. With a few exceptions I'd venture a guess to say there aren't many photographers shooting in manual who don't rely on their meter to at least get a starting or base exposure and then alter their exposure from that. That or do the same using their playback screen.
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May 10, 2017 09:41:23   #
drboss56 wrote:
I think you are right. After posting my question, I went back and checked my export settings and notice I was resizing. I don't know why I did that but I think that should resolve the problem or at least hope so. Is there an easy way to export photos from Lightroom directly to sites like MPIX?


I don't know if I'd call it easy but some sites have Lightroom export plugins. I don't really care for how Lightroom handles them. I don't think MPIX has one but Shootproof and Pixieset have them, Flickr does too. I prefer just exporting from Lightroom and uploading the images myself though.
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May 10, 2017 09:36:25   #
cthahn wrote:
Why shoot both? Not necessaary. Understand how light room works and convert to whatever you want in LR.


There are several reasons to shoot both depending on your camera and need. Many cameras that have dual storage card slots allow you to send the RAW files to one card and the jpeg to the other which makes for a nice backup if your card with RAW files fails. Another reason is that some shooters need to transmit or share images right away after the shoot. This might be for review by a client, photojournalism situations, etc. This is much easier and faster with jpg files but you might then want the RAW files for editingredients the client picks.
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May 10, 2017 09:27:18   #
Rab-Eye wrote:
Here is my theory: if all you do in manual mode is shoot according to what the camera's meter says is the correct exposure, you're not doing anything different than if you used aperture or shutter priority. I use manual when I want to shoot at an exposure that is not what the camera meter reads. I find that faster and more flexible then using exposure compensation, which is another way to do the same thing. Thoughts?


I agree completely as regards exposure but the image would likely still look different from the manual shot than the auto shot unless you just happen to pick the exact same aperture and shutter speed settings.

Your post seems to have been hijacked by the which one is better debate though and for that I'll say neither manual nor auto settings are better as long as you are getting the results you want. For me I'll use manual, aperture priority, shutter priority, or program depending on the situation, subject, and camera. One big advantage to using auto exposure modes is knowing you'll end up with decent exposures when shooting with ambient light in a situation where you don't have time to keep checking your exposure and have to concentrate on the action. In those situations I'll usually use exposure compensation when I think my meter will be thrown off by the scene. If I'm shooting in a controlled environment like a studio or a slower paced environment like landscape, still life, or nature photography I'll more often shoot in manual.
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