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Jun 18, 2018 20:58:42   #
via the lens wrote:
However, a photo image is "not translated into a bitmap," it is a bitmap file


This is not true in the case of raw files, which are just data from the sensor that has not yet been translated into a bitmap (or pixmap).
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Jun 18, 2018 20:36:25   #
via the lens wrote:
Then how do the changes occur to the image itself if not pixel by pixel?


That's just it; they don't occur to the image. They sit in a sidecar file to be applied whenever the image is translated into a bitmap. Lightroom by itself is incapable of changing a bitmap; it needs an associated pixel editor to provide change instructions to. Enter Photoshop.

Here's ACDSee's explanation.
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Jun 18, 2018 18:22:08   #
via the lens wrote:
HI Gene,
I was expecting you to weigh in. I'll print and re-read what you wrote and continue to search out answers. You apparently do not believer the reference I have given, so do you have any references for what you are opining?


A screenshot of a message in a chat room is not a valid source of facts, it's just some guy on the internet spouting off. He may be right or he may be wrong. In this case, he's wrong and Gene is right. There are such things as parametric editors, which simply edit processing instructions. They do not change pixels in an actual image like pixel editors do.
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Jun 18, 2018 10:09:38   #
anotherview wrote:
A photograph may present a sense of actuality (AKA reality) to the viewer but never the condition of actuality itself. After all, a photograph appeals first only to the visual sense, an inherent limitation of the artform.

A traditional photograph offers its content in two dimensions within a frame also limiting both the view and the understanding of a subject.

Effective composition and other photographic technique may produce the effect of verisimilitude.

Artfulness in doing photography may enhance this effect to appeal even more to the visual sense.

Most photographers may agree that further development of the photograph will bring out its potential. Enter photo-editing software.

Only stating the obvious here, not an argument.
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Yep, totally agree.
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Jun 18, 2018 06:48:55   #
rochephoto wrote:
Photoshop first came out 19 yrs ago...


It was released in 1990.
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Jun 18, 2018 00:55:12   #
Nikonman44 wrote:

Again don't get upset but those programs are to create a vision that was not there or the photographer wanted to capture (what they thought would be) in the view finder but missed it.


This is a very common opinion of Photoshop from people who have no idea what it can do.

Decades of simply not being able to edit photos unless you had your own darkroom has trained people to think that whatever the Fotomat drive-thru guy gave them is somehow "real", and anything done to the images after that is somehow ruining that reality.

But today the Fotomat guy has quit and told everyone to develop their own photos, and people are coping in one of two ways: embracing it and jumping into the photo editing world, or staunchly refusing to do it and treating their camera like the new Fotomat guy.

The reality is that cameras don't do a great job of capturing reality, so making your photos look as "real" as possible is a fine art that takes tremendous processing skill. So if reality is your goal, there's no better program to learn than Photoshop.
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Jun 18, 2018 00:38:43   #
nadelewitz wrote:
There are high-level professional photo artists, self-styled photo artists, amateur photographers of all levels, those who just want to lighten or darken a photo, change tint slightly, crop a photo, and a whole world of things in between.

Someone who is asking about what program to use and sounds like they have little idea of what the are doing (yet) would be well-served to start SIMPLE and work up to whatever level they find they need. What good is the ultimate in bells & whistles if you can't figure it all out?

I encounter highest-tech snobs in photography, computing, cars etc. who erroneously think the most advanced thing is what everyone should use.

Just sayin'.
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I sure am glad I started with full on Photoshop back when I was getting into photography. As my knowledge grew I was never limited by my software, and Photoshop skills are a large part of why I've been employed for the past 20 years. Find someone who can say that about Luminar.
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Jun 14, 2018 23:40:51   #
Bay photo is your place.
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Jun 14, 2018 09:25:50   #
Look up Iurie Belegurschi with Iceland Photo Tours.
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Jun 10, 2018 11:09:47   #
traderjohn wrote:
I think you have it reversed. The electronic instrument allows you accomplish what otherwise you can not. Moving an electronically controlled slider is knowledge, not art.


Moving a brush around a canvas is knowledge, not art.

We can do this all day!
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Jun 10, 2018 11:05:44   #
traderjohn wrote:

You have used a machine and software products. You are not an artist nor is the end result art.


You have used a brush and colored pigments. You are not an artist nor is the end result art.

See? You have yet to say anything where I cannot swap photo tools for painting tools. Therefore, you've yet to make a valid point.
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Jun 9, 2018 22:25:36   #
traderjohn wrote:
I think you have it reversed. The electronic instrument allows you accomplish what otherwise you can not. Moving an electronically controlled slider is knowledge, not art.


Knowing where to set the camera, what to include in your frame and how to process it is the art, though.
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Jun 7, 2018 09:52:23   #
will47 wrote:
What is the best way to expose and process extreme high contrast captures. I do a lot of outdoor photography and have huge problems when I run into situations where the contrast between lights and darks are extreme. I try all the obvious such as camera angle, where I stand etc. but sometimes I just can't avoid it. In many cases going back on another day is not possible. I use a Canon EOS 7D Mark II, sometimes a Canon EOS 60D, and the lens I use most is a Tamron 24-70 2.8. Thanks.


Manually blending in Photoshop gives the most natural results. Here's an example of unprocessed raws and the final product. This was taken with a 5D2 and may be able to be produced in one shot with one of today's high dynamic range cameras, but I still think not digging too deep into shadows is best, especially when your main subject is in those shadows.

This is a simple two shot blend, but I've done 4 and 5 shots before in extreme situations. It's very liberating to go out shooting knowing you're not constrained by dynamic range. Let's you focus on light and composition.


http://www.ddphotos.com/quiraing_raws.jpg


(Download)
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Jun 7, 2018 08:25:23   #
boberic wrote:
Truth is that a watermark/ signature is an excercise in ego as ,in reality, it does not protect the image from theft. I have signed many of my piscs, but only to let friends/relatives know that "I did It". I suppose, for pros, it's a marketing tool, so for that purpose there is value for the photographer.


If someone is going to take the time to Photoshop out my watermark, then it proves that it's a valuable enough photo to warrant protection. But watermarks aren't to stop bad guys, they're to tell good guys who the image belongs to.
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Jun 6, 2018 10:28:39   #
dsmeltz wrote:
Please, stop embarrassing yourself. You clearly missed the sound of the mike being dropped at the end o my last post.

I will no longer try to educate you. Go back to your habit of tweeting at 3:30 am.

Done with you.


Hehe! Translation: "I see where this is going and it's not good for me, so time to bail".
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