oh such a great response! Please have the last word so you can embarrass yourself further! Try looking up the "alternative facts" of the Bowling Green Massacre. Try thinking for yourself sometime, you might be surprised.... maybe not....

LOL... it seems addressing the point of the "Bowling Green Massacre" is beyond your ability, so you attack the messenger... so well played! You deserve no further response; your comments are worthless. Next time try and stay on point.

Pedantic... try thinking about the leadership we don't have and those whom he has surrounded himself. Your response contributes nothing; or, are you incapable of advanced thought?

Tell people a lie enough time and it becomes a "fact". Lying b***h! (KellyAnne Conway). When will you wake up? When the shooting starts in the South Sea and we lost hundreds of lives? Don't give in but don't sacrifice American lives like Hillary did in Bengazi.

Great retort, such creativity. Looks like what I wrote... god, I'm embarrassed for you!

You can have the last word (but no one is listening anymore)

Oh include you brother in arms phcaan. Having failed to enlighten either of you (an impossible task), I take some enjoyment of running circles around you.

PS: Don't bring knives to gun fights.

Not worried about that given your posts. Sometimes one's value as a person is measured by the people who dislike him. In your case I'm proud not to be considered liked by a curmudgeon like you! 😎

Just me. Joined around November when I got back into photography. Rarely post; first time in this forum and probably last in attic.

Checkmate - learn to read or stop lying about others. A viable fetus should not be aborted. I believe a fetus becomes viable in the 3rd trimester. I said that in my post. Learn to read and or learn to tell the t***h. Your dissembling is d********g.

You are clueless about me and my ethics. You conveniently project on me wh**ever traits you detest. You attack the messenger if he brings an inconvenient t***h. Do You consider that honorable behavior?
If you cannot refute facts with t***h, then think and perhaps learn. Otherwise accept the fact that you embrace hypocrisy.
Say wh**ever you wish now, I can't be bothered replying any more.
Enjoy your "life" and perhaps allow others to enjoy theirs.

pchaan -

write: My callous attitude towards unborn children? Go back to bed, you are boring.

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Terrific answer there! I am literally laughing out loud! You can't address the FACTS I present to contest your so-called facts so you attack me instead of addressing the message. That is the hallmark of a weak mind of little integrity.

Thanks for opportunity to deflate the self-importance of the so called "pro-life" argument, you know, they're the people that profess to care about life while attempting to ens***e the lives of real people who are demeaned to the status of brood mares in your world.

Fatuous at best. In your own words, "go back to bed, you're boring"!

My callous attitude towards unborn children? You say that is one of my "alternative facts"? That's not a fact - THAT's YOUR OPINION of me! Of course you've read other opinions, there is a minority percentage of people who agree with you, thankfully the majority do not. Tell me, is a fetus a "child" while it has gills? There is a point during development prior to the development of lungs or are you oblivious to that FACT?

"When life begins is of no consequence to (me)". How dare you say that? Again that is not a fact, it is YOUR PROJECTION of what I feel and believe. You have no right whatsoever to speak for me. You don't know me at all.

I previously stated that if a fetus is of sufficient development to survive outside the womb then it should not be aborted. There is ample time prior to that self-sustaining point in time to determine threats to the mother's life and or if the pregnancy is the result of rape. However your stated position is NO fetus should be aborted for you believe it is a child as soon as conception occurs. At that point there are how many cells to this "child" TWO! For the sake of two cells you would hold a woman hostage to her own body over which you have no rights whatsoever. The law is not right to you but it complies with the 13th amendment of the American Constitution which bans s***ery. Yes, that is what you propose. Control over another human being, forcing her to carry within her body something you consider to be a child. Yet what you see as a child is not recognized by law or science or common sense to be a child. It is just your belief and your dogma that makes your opinion superior to anyone else. What presumption, what pomposity! Your holier than thou posturing would be laughable if it wasn't capable of ruining the lives of some poor woman you never met.

If a fetus cannot survive ex utero how in God's name can you call it a child?

What alternative facts have I used? Please enlighten me.

btbg - bloviating alternative facts does not legitimize your position. Your argument is "this is my definition of when life begins". The majority of the world's inhabitants disagree. Yet you insist that everyone else abide your definition at the expense of their rights. You cannot argue on point but emotion. On that basis further debate is senseless. Just know that I and multi-millions of Americans actively resist your efforts to impose your religious beliefs on those of us who do not share your dogma.

phcaan

"It is like all of you so educated folks that sit on your laurels and criticize the actions of our soldiers in the field who are doing your wet work for you."

There you go again, making assumptions and projecting positions on people you don't know. I'm still confused how you tried to link disdain for the military with your argument but then again, you've demonstrated a marvelous capacity for spewing non-sequiturs...

Enough, we will not change either person's beliefs. I believe that women agonize over such decisions and so believe in their integrity whereas you do not.... it is believe the best in people or believe the worst.... I v**e for best and feel sorry that you cannot.