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Mar 19, 2018 23:40:08   #
10MPlayer, Architect1776, merrytexan, Merlin, Raymond, tinwhistel, Jack, Steve, thank you all for the visit and comments.
--Bob
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Mar 19, 2018 23:37:09   #
Thank you for the comment and invitation. One never knows where or when one might be somewhere. I'll extend the same to you if you are ever in the Phoenix area.
--Bob
b roll wanabee wrote:
I saw the one in Chicago and these facilities are why we have clean water.
One of if not the most important piece of infastructure in modern society.

A caption is always good for stuff like this.

Great idea and execution.
If you are ever in Chicago give me a buzz.
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Mar 19, 2018 23:35:53   #
MT_native and eagle80, thank you very much for the comments. They are appreciated.
--Bob
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Mar 19, 2018 23:34:41   #
tbpmusic, it's a gray water plant. Water from this treatment facility is piped to nearby parks for irrigation. It's just 2% short of being drinking water.
--Bob
tbpmusic wrote:
OK, what sort of water plant is that?
Doesn't look like your standard sand filter setup.......
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Mar 19, 2018 23:33:23   #
Thank you, Mike. I always appreciate your visits and comments.
--Bob
UTMike wrote:
Bob, only you could make a treatment plant artistic!
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Mar 19, 2018 23:32:25   #
Thank you, EdR. Your comments are greatly appreciated.
--Bob
EdR wrote:
Balanced and symmetrical, leading lines that draw your attention in. Great composition and exposure. WOW!!! πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘
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Mar 19, 2018 23:31:29   #
Thanks for the compliment, Jeff. It's greatly appreciated.
--Bob
fotojeff wrote:
Bob,

Love your work!! What’s your post processing work flow on this image?

Disregard that. I missed your comments on page two. Nice job.
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Mar 19, 2018 23:30:34   #
Nalu, Ben, and Dennis, thanks for stopping, viewing, and commenting. This was shot with 120 film and printed 16x20.
--Bob
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Mar 19, 2018 23:28:42   #
This photo was 120. I was shooting 4x5 yesterday, Sunday. A friend I went with was shooting 8x10. We had a blast. I just finished processing those negatives a few minutes ago.
--Bob
DaveC1 wrote:
4X5, or something even larger?
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Mar 19, 2018 23:26:54   #
Hi, Mike. Then you should have felt right at home looking at this photo. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
--Bob
miket22 wrote:
Desal facility? Very industrial. I'm a water treatment guy. Well done.
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Mar 19, 2018 23:25:40   #
Hi, Dennis. Originally, it was just for me. However, the manager of the plant loved it so much, I made a copy and presented it to the plant. I'll let the people fight over it.
--Bob
dennis2146 wrote:
Well done Bob. Composition is excellent as is exposure. I love the black and white. Was this possibly for an annual report for some company or just for you?

Dennis
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Mar 19, 2018 23:23:35   #
Personally, I just as at ease without as with.
--Bob
Howard5252 wrote:
Many years ago I belonged to a club that used judges who did not want titles on the competition entries. There are times where a snappy title might improve the photograph - a photograph that would otherwise fail on its own. An example I'll use actually occured ... the photo was of a woman wearing a bathing suit laying on the beach on her back. No big deal - a so/so image. The title was "Twin Peaks" (at a time when that show was all the rage). Suddenly everyone saw a wonderful photograph.
I have attached two images - one without a title and one with a title. Does the title change your opinion of the image?
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Mar 19, 2018 23:18:41   #
Thanks, dar_clicks. I appreciate that you stopped by and commented.
--Bob
dar_clicks wrote:
Very nice B&W! Especially like care in setting up the composition so well. Exposure not shabby either! Nice work.
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Mar 19, 2018 21:40:58   #
Scotty, here's an SOOC of that same image. The only thing I did do was an Auto WB to remove the effects of the customWB that I use.

Yes, I could have, but the whites of the clouds weren't really close to VIII
--Bob
selmslie wrote:
What makes you think that we disagree? I don't have any problem with doing it the way that you describe. That's exactly what I would have done!

The way that we do it is based on a thorough understanding of the capabilities and limitations of raw capture.

I know that you could have gone 1/2 step further and placed the exposure in the middle of exposure zone VIII and it would probably have not blown the highlights. By giving yourself a 1/2 stop cushion you insured that you would not blow the highlights. Since your objective was to do a B&W conversion there was not even any concern about which color channel might get blown first.

My problem with applying ETTR is not with the way that you, Gene and I do it. You are not the purveyors of the ETTR/EBTR/ERADR nonsense to which I am referring.

The only time where the ETTR discussion goes off the rails is when the examples given show that an image exposed as ETTR is always washed out, brighter than the final image.
And the claim that a benefit of ETTR is reduced noise is also easily disproved.

Here is an example with ETTR exposure. It is darker than the final result after shadow recovery. Note that there are tiny spikes at the right end of the three histograms from the specular highlights.

This image, like the other 180 I took on March 10, was actually exposed without actually metering anything at all. See Exposure Value - No metering used. That makes it even simpler than actually applying ETTR at all.

Knowledge is power.
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Mar 19, 2018 20:42:36   #
Scotty, I'm in the middle of developing some film. I'll respond with the original SOOC image a bit later.
--Bob
selmslie wrote:
What makes you think that we disagree? I don't have any problem with doing it the way that you describe. That's exactly what I would have done!

The way that we do it is based on a thorough understanding of the capabilities and limitations of raw capture.

I know that you could have gone 1/2 step further and placed the exposure in the middle of exposure zone VIII and it would probably have not blown the highlights. By giving yourself a 1/2 stop cushion you insured that you would not blow the highlights. Since your objective was to do a B&W conversion there was not even any concern about which color channel might get blown first.

My problem with applying ETTR is not with the way that you, Gene and I do it. You are not the purveyors of the ETTR/EBTR/ERADR nonsense to which I am referring.

The only time where the ETTR discussion goes off the rails is when the examples given show that an image exposed as ETTR is always washed out, brighter than the final image.
And the claim that a benefit of ETTR is reduced noise is also easily disproved.

Here is an example with ETTR exposure. It is darker than the final result after shadow recovery. Note that there are tiny spikes at the right end of the three histograms from the specular highlights.

This image, like the other 180 I took on March 10, was actually exposed without actually metering anything at all. See Exposure Value - No metering used. That makes it even simpler than actually applying ETTR at all.

Knowledge is power.
What makes you think that we disagree? I don't h... (show quote)
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