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May 13, 2015 17:03:31   #
G Brown wrote:
I think the oldest pub in the uk is in Nottingham carved into some cliffs, could be wrong. Pubs have great heritage - and are often one of the oldest buildings in towns and villages. With the decline in pubs NOW may be an ideal time to document them before they go the same way as village schools (chopped up or sold as houses.


Yes I think you are correct in what you say about the need to document them !
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May 13, 2015 15:01:13   #
An incomplete set pf shots of a very old English pub in Leatherhead in the county of Surrey.


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May 13, 2015 08:16:35   #
Gene51 wrote:
The camera did nothing wrong. In #1 it took a look at the entire scene, and according to it's factory programmed settings that allow for overexposure of up to 10% (or 15% or whatever) of the scene it set the camera accordingly. From the camera's point of view it did nothing wrong.

However, it doesn't know that the scene had a contrast range that was beyond it's capability, and that the sunlight falling on the bird's plumage should have received priority on exposure so that these areas would not be recorded as white without any detail - aka "blown out."

The proper exposure would have prioritized the plumage, allowed the rest of the image to be darker, and you would use your (or someone else's) post processing skills to bring the level of the darker areas up in brightness to provide an all-around well-balanced image.

There are several ways to achieve a proper capture, but some settings probably can't be improved upon much. I see that you are using a Niikon P900, which means that you are limited to shooting jpeg only. Had you purchased a camera with raw file capture capability, you might have a few more options in post processing with the enhanced ability to recover shadow and highlight information, as well as having slightly better dynamic range and more fine detail.

For this image, I might suggest a lower ISO, keeping the aperture and exposure at 5.6 and 1/400 respectively - possibly 200.

Which brings me to image 2. where the camera did exactly that, it lessened the camera sensitivity AND chose a shorter exposure, and as you can see, the overall image is better. The shadow levels can be raised and the highlights toned down a bit. There are still some highlights that cannot be recovered, on the bird's wing and the top of the head. But this is a difficult shot even with mega-expensive cameras and lenses and shooting 14 bit raw files.

The last image is fine - nothing is over or under exposed, but could still benefit from a little post processing. to improve contrast and crop the image to show the bird more prominently.

I did a quick 3 minute processing on the second image just to see how much detail was capture and to look a little more closely at the camera's capabilities. Pretty decent from what I have see so far.

What I would do differently in the future would be to evaluate the scene for things like overly bright highlights, take a test shot and use the camera's overexposure indicator (seen as blinking highlights in the preview), and use a little exposure compensation to darken the image (in this case, - 1 1/3) which if applied to the first image would give you the same exposure as the camera used to record the second image.
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Gene51 - Thanks for the time you have taken to answer my questions - all I have to do is remember it all. I guess in time I will get a handle on all the advise that I am getting and eventually be able to apply it!
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May 13, 2015 07:55:37   #
mariraju wrote:
Sometimes, if you just tilt camera either left or right / up or down, you could avoid some of the bright reflection of the sun light from the leaves in the background. If that doesn't change may be positioning yourself in a different angle. It is about how light flows through your lens and that's how the AUTO mode sets the rest of the settings. I guess I have answered your doubt. Please let me know if you need any clarifications. Thank you


OK thanks that makes sense - back to the river the same time tomorrow, that's if the weather hasn't changed which I think it may just do.
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May 13, 2015 06:59:58   #
mariraju wrote:
By looking at the photos, the second one looks better than the other two. And about the over exposed photos, the AUTO settings of your camera metered the scene and increased ISO, the sensitivity, which was not needed. That is one of the reasons that you don't see the colors properly. Even with the AUTO settings, one way you could have improved photos, either by changing the direction of your camera or by using polarizing lens.


Thanks - I am not exactly sure what you mean by "changing the direction of the camera"
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May 13, 2015 06:44:24   #
Ok thanks - not sure whether that makes me Intelligent or an idiot - but just in case... don't answer. (smiles)
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May 13, 2015 06:13:47   #
Ok and thanks! you both - so the consensus on number one is that the herons neck was overexposed - and remembering that I am a beginner, what would have been the best exposure setting in this case the sunlight was at right angle to the subject.
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May 13, 2015 06:05:52   #
Millismote wrote:
It is difficult to answer your question because they are three different pictures but I think number 2 has the best exposure. In number one the neck of the heron is blown out (under exposed) and in number three the foreground Is under exposed.


Thanks. I am a beginner so still trying to get my head around a load of different factors.
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May 13, 2015 05:40:41   #
Shot these three on auto and would like to know what settings would have been best. The camera's settings were as follows.

1 F/stop = 5.6
Exp = 1/400
ISO = 400

2 F/stop = 5.6
Exp = 1/500
ISO = 200

3 F/stop = 5.0
Exp = 1/50
ISO = 400


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May 10, 2015 09:35:55   #
johneccles wrote:
Your photo looks OK to me and appears to be in focus.


Thanks - johneccles.
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May 9, 2015 09:59:02   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
I've copied your camera data below. What mode do you shoot in? For very white subjects against dark backgrounds, you'll want to compensate for your camera trying to even out the exposure.

Check your camera for the "exposure compensation" feature. Try setting to minus 2/3 or minus 1 for a scene such as this.

Also, 1/125 sec shutter speed is too slow if the birds moved.

You have a bridge camera. My Canon SX50 has a burst mode that shoots with highest possible shutter speed for the conditions, while also being able to use exposure compensation. That's what I use for my eagle shots.
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Thanks Linda - I was shooting on Auto !
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May 9, 2015 08:08:00   #
Not a great shot - a little out of focus not sure what went wrong ????


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May 9, 2015 07:22:14   #
tejaswrangler wrote:
prcb1949, nice pictures, great composition. Thanks for sharing. :thumbdown: Tejaswrangler :)


Thanks for having a look jejaswrangler .
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May 8, 2015 11:33:27   #
RS wrote:
Thanks, those are the kind of photos I love to take.
As I usually comment to whomever is with me, "That's a picture just asking to be taken."


Thank you RS - Thats what I tought as well - and I should take more of the kind but my "focus" excuse the pun - is on birds, but have a lot of learning to do - but it will be fun on the way.
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May 8, 2015 11:00:10   #
alf85 wrote:
Taken with the SX-50.


Very nice pics - like the Rook and the doves !
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