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Jun 1, 2018 12:48:01   #
I hope this is the correct forum to address both of my issues.
1. I caught this painted lady yesterday right after I had switched my camera from manual to AV mode and from RAW to jpeg. I like the photo but wonder how it would improve with some expert editing.
2. I started using Lightroom a couple of months ago and would like to clear everything out and start over. How best to go about doing so?
Thanks
Marg


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May 19, 2018 18:12:39   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Marg, here's a merged view of the original surrounded by two example edits. If you look into the fine details, they all are hampered by the limitations of the original. But, they also show the opportunities. I think removing the window is the first major opportunity. The other ideas should be experimented with (shorter focal length and crop, lower ISO, wider aperture, single focus point, capture in RAW, process in LR or PS or both, using a tripod). I'd experiment in better light so I could compare images from f/8 > /f11 at 300mm at a lower ISO with the same exposure at 200mm ish and cropped. Some of the ideas are somewhat contradictory, so try various combinations and directions, where possible. Glad to hear you enjoyed my IG feed.
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The before and after shots are quite remarkable and I can certainly see the possibilities had the original image been better. For now I have done the following:
Closed the blinds so I’m not tempted to shoot through the glass
Set up the computer to download into Lightroom first
Set a mark on my lens so I’ll know to try to stay at or below 220 mm.
Changed the camera to shoot in RAW
Set up the camera on the tripod facing the bird feeder but loosely so it can be moved around
Set one focal point
Lowered the ISO to 100 as a starting point
Now just waiting for that little towhee to come back
Thanks so much, Paul!
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May 19, 2018 16:42:27   #
Einreb92 wrote:
There are so many factors that play a role in a sharp image. Now that folks have given you some positive suggestions, take time and explore each one on your own. That will give you so much valuable information upon which you can rely. BTW: sometimes, the only way to get a shot of an unusual visitor is to do whatever you can to get the shot. Not every shot is destined to be a hanger anyway. Good luck and keep shooting!

Thanks, Einreb92! I am very much in awe of the number of people who have taken the time to help me with this. So much knowledge and generosity here! I will practise, practise, practise!
Marg
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May 19, 2018 16:37:10   #
Jim-Pops wrote:
This is what I could get out of one of your pictures. I used Photoshop using High Pass filter on Rufus.

When shooting I would try not to go over 1200 iso on your camera to reduce your noise. In this shot iso 1200 and f/5.6 might work, if not then go to a little slower speed. You can open shadows and under exposed files easer if you shoot raw. I always shoot in raw to have all the information I can get out of a shot. It then lets me fiddle with the sliders with more control to get what I need.
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That looks cool, Jim. I use a laptop that is shared with my hubby. I have been afraid that raw files will plug up the computer. But I think I might try!
Thanks
Marg
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May 19, 2018 16:34:24   #
photogeneralist wrote:
One of the often overlooked source of softness is caused by image stabilization trying to compensate for non-existent camera motion. If you are taking a photo using a good tripod and a shake proof shutter release method, then by all means turn off your camera's/lens' image stabilization feature. (Even worse is if the camera and body each have their own competing versions of image stabilization turned on. But your Canon body, I don't believe, has internal image stabilization so if any IS induced blurring occurs it would have to come from the lens' IS.)
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You are absolutely correct, photgeneralist. The camera does not have IS and neither does the lens. I will try limiting zoom to 220 or so and see how that works out. I hope one day to also say, I used to have that concern with my earlier photos. 😊
Marg
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May 19, 2018 15:52:38   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If shooting JPEGs, I'd like to suggest you skip DPP and just take your images to LR. You can probably disable the auto-prompt for DPP when you insert your camera card.


I will take that advice for sure! Should certainly make getting my pictures a lot easier!
I followed your link to Instagram out of curiosity. Wow! Just WOW! Your photos are amazing.
I hope instead of saying “thanks, CHG_CANON” it’s okay to simply say thanks, Paul. Appreciate your time and advice.
Marg
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May 19, 2018 15:47:22   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Yes, the phone was the culprit.

Coming back to your original question, yes some editing can help things. From the data in the image from the camera, one additional change would be to use just one focus point. In this example, the center would be fine for the distance and cropping opportunity. Whatever point is used, try to set it directly on the bird's head or eye. See the screen capture that shows a group of AF points active rather than just a single. Try with a single point and see what you can get.
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Okay. I thought I had selected single point but clearly did not. I’ll pay closer attention next time.
Thanks!
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May 19, 2018 15:08:02   #
artBob wrote:
Your photo can be improved in post-processing. I did this using "Clarity," "Vibrance," and "Black" sliders, then going to "Sharpening." Perhaps you would like to try those yourself, to get the result you like.

However, there is "noise" (pinpoint artifacts) all over, perhaps from shooting through glass.


Great job, artBob! Thanks for taking the time. Noise likely from glass and ISO a bit high.
Marg
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May 19, 2018 15:05:23   #
CPR wrote:
The original is lacking in sharp detail but I took a shot at it. It's not great as I'm not that good but played with this for the heck of it.


That’s pretty amazing, CPR! Thanks for playing with it.
Marg
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May 19, 2018 15:01:40   #
Rick36203 wrote:
Using these settings in Camera Raw or the equivalent sections of the Lightroom develop module will result in an image that is not so flat and hazy. If it is too saturated or sharp for your taste reduce vibrance and sharpening or increase noise reduction to soften.


Wow, Rick! That looks amazing!
I see you are in North Alabama. Me, too. In Muscle Shoals, originally from Canada.
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May 19, 2018 14:58:19   #
David Kay wrote:
Shooting through the window, causes a slight haze in the photo. In Lightroom there is a haze removal tool. I would suggest that you try that to remove the light grey haze overcast in this photo and it will make the colors pop.


Thank you, David!
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May 19, 2018 14:57:28   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
"Creative editing" can be interpreted so many ways, such as shown by the alligator composite someone posted to your other topic

Since you mention wanting to improve the image, I'm thinking you are referring more to elements such as clarity, contrast and color. Shooting through a window into flat light are challenges that are difficult to overcome with simple edits. In the other topic you mentioned you would try increasing your shutter speed to 1/800 second, but that will require an additional adjustment: either raising your ISO, which is already high for that camera and lens - meaning overall image quality is likely to be better with an ISO under 1,000 - or changing your aperture to a smaller number (which affects depth of field).

Because the quality of light is such a huge aspect of photography, here is a discussion topic currently in progress in one of UHH's specialty forums, For Your Consideration:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-529331-1.html

Hope you'll check it out!
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Thank you, Linda! I have been reading it. Very informative.
Marg
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May 19, 2018 14:34:05   #
mwsilvers wrote:
The first issue is they are not terribly sharp. Which version of the lens are you using? If its the original version it's lack of sharpness is not surprising. But don't give up. Taking good wildlife shots is a skill that requires nurturing.


I’m sure it is the original, mwsilvers. Hubby bought it for me at least second hand via eBay. Not ready to give up yet!
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May 19, 2018 14:03:39   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Marg, you should look too at your image workflow. The "originals" you posted are not the originals from the camera. This is not a crisis. You should look at actions you perform or possibly Apple performs for you automatically. As a best practice, you should be able to recover to the original file from the camera.


Okay, I might be completely lost here CHG_CANON. When I connect my camera to my computer I get an offer immediately to download my pictures to Professional Digital Photography. I then move the photos to "Pictures" on my computer. From there if there is something I want to play with or share I move individual pictures to Lightroom. That way I can access in LR with my IPhone, or share to email, text, fb, etc. That's how I put the pictures on here earlier. This time I am bypassing my phone and posting directly from my computer. Does that make any difference?


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May 19, 2018 10:47:23   #
I posted these two photos in the main discussion and it was suggested that I share with you in post processing. I am very new to photography (5 months) but am already suffering from image envy. I understand my images can be improved upon with some creative editing but I have not branched out from minimal cropping and minor adjustments in Lightroom. I wonder if anybody here might have the time and interest to play with these and show me (tell me) what is possible. These were shot with a canon t4i, 75-300 mm kit lens at 300, ss 320, f8, ISO 2000, on a tripod and through the window.
Thanks!


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