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Sep 15, 2011 06:23:40   #
DITTO TO BOB'S COMMENT. www.topazlabs.com
Worth a few $ to make life easy on yourself.
At least, try it for 30 days for free.
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Sep 15, 2011 04:20:12   #
Robertperry muchly agreed that videos and webinars are great learning tools as are stepwise directions like from the web or magazines. On your own is a lonesome place with blind path. Last webinar I picked up one trick and wow it was worth the 45 minutes. Topazlabs webinars are a sales tool, but very instructional. Written cook book example is
http://www.photoshopessentials.com/photo-editing/keystoning/

Robertperry has both PSE and PSP as do I. The tools are much the same, however one in particular is better served by PSP, that is the skew tool. You click the 4 pts on the building and click ok. WaLa, the sides of the building now look vertical. PSE is more complicated. Other things better served by PSE or PS CS.

I have used both programs for a number of years starting with the PSE first issue (It had no number!). PSP back before Corel bought it. Both have evolved well. I also have Serif photo X4 (bought with full rebate!!).

Of course we all know the basic stuff, but when I encounter something special I want to do, I check out all help programs quickly and check on the net. Please, lead me by the hand, I am not too proud to seek help. PSP has the virtue of having the help at the left margin.

Motivation to upgrade depends on need such as OS change, or some special thing that is introduced by the company that I consider a need that I have. Otherwise, at present I have more power than I need, and still in 2nd gear grinding up that steep learning curve. (eventually, our minds decline and we go down the back side of the learning curve and forget!!! Ouch!)

So: Summary, don't trash that PSP.

Side comment: I still use MGI (defunct company?) Photosuit 4 an ancient predecessor of PSP (I think) and I use this because of its simplicity and effectiveness in doing some basic things quickly. I think it was a windows 95 program and it still works in XP-s3.

Programs are like the 55 Ford T-Bird, a wow car when introduced. It was then improved to the point of being just another family sedan, ugh. Change is not necessarily improvement and that applies heavily to programs. Change to often is just bloat.
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Sep 14, 2011 19:50:36   #
PS: worked with ESE Profoundly Disabled children on Monday, that is depressing and very taxing. We are luck to be old and having problems. These kids are so disabled physically and mentally from day one. What they know or dont know about themselves I do not know. Surly to see others play and do and not be able to from the start,,, i shudder to think. At least we have had a relatively good life. For that we must be happy and thankful.
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Sep 14, 2011 19:33:59   #
Dear 5-Dogs you are an inspiration, truly. You keep on ticken - like those ol timex commercials. Some mornings I feel like I floated to the ceiling and dropped to the floor. Takes time to crankup. I do sub teaching and enjoy it tho taxing. I have to get up early, Get on the road at 6:30, but I get out at 2. But busy during the day and around the young is therapeutic.

I am very lucky healtwise compared to most. I loved working with industrial processes and the environment and being someone worthwile and in command. In the words of Kowalski in the water frount,, I was a contender.

After retirement, suddenly just an ol guy with work-related stories. We must have purpose in life and photography is very satisfying. If needed we can set up 1000s of fotos on a chip and just watch them on a frame screen or giant TV and pass as in Soylent Green with music and OUR MEMORY photos. We can remain linked to beautiful thoughts til we can no longer see.

Working with computer and programs keeps our minds sharp. EMail allows me to chat with my wonderful daughter a couple of times a week. Some how writing differs from phone. I have scanned old photos some from her childhood, this week we have remembered people and events from 30-40 years ago.

I tell people that those photos you take today of family are perhaps right now of little meaning, but 10 years or more hence they are most valuable. Photos invoke memories and are warm feelings. Photos are my time machine, my old ones and the collection of antique ones.

The eye of the photographer, sees that which too many over look. The ear of the poet feels emotions. We must keep involved with life as long as we can. And we must laugh at our mistakes and afflictions.

Enough of the heavy health stuff!! Lets talk about the war! Better still, lets talk again about the great cameras of today and the great ones we owned in the past. Like that Rico bought thru sears and the tele lense that embedded in the sand on Kill Devil hill when helping launch hang glides,,, wind caught the glider and three of us went over the back of the hill. I hit, camera down!! I was there to photograph launches, not to be launched. Any strange camera stories from the past from you guys?? How about a few lets get off joint pain.
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Sep 14, 2011 17:31:47   #
Gesmann, would have done things different,,,, hummm,,,, from what I have been reading from all you ol folks, it proceeds by a time clock. As I was reading, I had to check the names to see that it was not me who wrote the complaint, OUCH.

And 5 dog, let me guess, the photo you show was taken after you fell, right? " hay, since I am down here take my picture." My big balance problem is d---d glasses. My brain and inner ear fight and brain says but I see this distance and suddenly the distance changes because the vision is in a different lens,,, For years I have had Trifocals, now not teaching or working in industry, I dropped back to bifocals... mistake,,, lost all that midrange. So, things are not where is see them..I need zoom glasses,, I need two screens over eyes and two intelligent cameras finding things and a gyro in a back pack... NO, not a Greek sandwich,,, one of those things that balances and maintains inertial orientation....
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Sep 14, 2011 17:18:17   #
Just watched Front Line on PBS. Seems that there was a photo contest .. subject Rail Roads,,, ooops the Homeland Security took down License Numbers, FBI investigated people, the got put on watch lists,,,, humm never did say who won the grand prize,,, a guess all that are on a terrorist watch list!!!
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Sep 14, 2011 12:55:18   #
Carma fround on me this morning, sort of. My SS check came in today. went to parking lot to go to Walmart and my 7 y/o battery pooped!!! Oh well better her than in the boonies. Guess Carma wanted to boost the economy.

Indeed, I tell people other photographer about Our Guy and get a uha. Took my picture up level of condo, nurse, told her I burned my hand. She loved the photo, the guys at the end condo chatting were awed,,, howdja do that?

I tweaked my photo with Topaz Adjust. Camera was my Kodak z1215. By the way, hot glued a shoe for aux flash, a ring for filters. Just a few things Kodak forgot.
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Sep 14, 2011 11:42:46   #
One of the electronic photo-magazines I take showed the prize winner!!! What, in our camera club it would have been a 12/27 point photo, no central focus, burned out areas, etc. How was it a prize winner.... perhaps because we photographers, who get concerned about what we display to others, commit one major contest sins --

we do not enter the contest for fear of failing or embarrassment. In contrast, those oblivious to what makes a good photo enter!! No, I know not all contests, but certainly this particular one!! (not specified here purposely) Look for the main point of my discussion.... you will never win if you do not enter.
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Sep 14, 2011 09:27:09   #
Perry: agree regards to PSP. Take a look at Topazlabs.com. The adjust is my workhorse while I have the whole suit, only Adjust would do me and it is only $50. It is magic, you will wonder where the details and color hidden in photo come from. Well, algorithms not really magic. Give it a 30 day free full trial, let me know what you think. Vee in Ca loves it too.

With PSP you have to put Plugin in program file. Directions are on the net.
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Sep 14, 2011 09:21:06   #
No, arphot, Bob would get good images til he dropped.

Note: X rays from airport scanners don't affect digital camera images.

www.kodak.com/global/en/service/tib/tib5201.shtml
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Sep 14, 2011 09:02:17   #
Education in Sensors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APS-C

So I understand from something I read (hopefully, i did not read my own writing!) Sony makes Nikon sensors.

How great P&S are even with small sensors, once as large as a APS-C,,,, then wow!! A little bigger does not appreciably increase the area of the sensor.

Photo companies are run by the young for the young and age is a disease and if you do not recognize the Beast (aging) the Beast will not get you.... so young people, young market, cameras for the young. Canon does not want to make a camera with a bracket that attaches to walkers with images designed to be seen thru cataracts!! Humph, I ain't dead yet Canon. Nor are 50% of the populous. Error, 100% of populous is alive, 50% is senior. humm like saying someone is oldest living voter; suggesting some dead vote!!!

Arthritis cure see photo ( thanks for technique to the a wild and crazy guy ) www.photoextreamist.com

Bionicman Makes Ice Coffee

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Sep 14, 2011 07:25:09   #
Hay, I tried again mixing the words around in google and here is the source of 7 pg PDF

http://psa-photo.org/files/8913/0573/8051/Part_B-_May-16-2011.pdf

How to build a box
"How to Construct a Print Judging Light Box" are available from PSA Headquarters. e-mail hq@psa-photo.org
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Sep 14, 2011 06:48:57   #
Humph, I do not read well, and I thought you were saying Artistic, not Arthritic, most of the same letters!

A simple grip aid in photo: The photo is my first make, actually, next make, I would simplify and make more ridged by just use a 2.5" brass 1/4" 20 tpi screw with a brass nut and a padded part from one of the Dollar tree $1 tripods. Not my Idea, saw it some place. The tennis ball is filled with plaster of paris. For lightness, I suppose the can of foam stuff - Great Stuff - would do.

Tennis Ball Grip Aid

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Sep 14, 2011 06:32:03   #
Thanks Blueeyes.
Our club is close to these, and does critiques on each photo of the submissions nite. Has been a great help to all, perhaps including judges.

My one bother, even after searching PPA archives, is the print viewing stand. Lighting, distance, angle, judging distance, shielding of eyes from direct bulbs, etc. are to my scientific judging soul critical. We surly all suffered from time to time from the "Ooops it looked great at home" syndrome.

Is there a criteria on this critical issue that you know of. I have searched the net before and found nothing!!
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Sep 14, 2011 05:21:55   #
Software Gluttons of the world unite.

5-Dogs wrote: "I just ordered it. I'm a glutton for good software! I got both Photoshop and Framemaker as part of the severance package after I left my last job."

Yes PS Costs an arm and a leg Severed! Every one says CS-5.5 is more powerful than PSP, I have never seen a side by side list showing why? Blind Faith, as in "You Believe in God & PS 5.5 don's you?? You had best say yes or the American Taliban will kill your reputation.

AND do not forget the Brits Serif X-4 $25 sealed box on E-Bay. The website has lots of resources and free downloads
http://www.serif.com/photoplus/
It ranked 4th in top ten review. Since they have X-5
1 Corel Paint Shop Photo Pro 2Adobe Photoshop Elements
3 Xara Photo & Graphic Designer 4 Serif Photoplus X4 or X5
http://photo-editing-software-review.toptenreviews.com/photoplus-review.html


I will checkout the Olympus freeware. Canon has a powerful freeware that requires a Canon S# to download. My IR converted Canon G-2 does the trick. Then you upgrade. I have an older Olympus-N-Underwater Case if I need S##.

Signup for http://www.giveawayoftheday.com These are $$ programs that are free (24 hr period) to GAofDay and that is a free group. Perhaps 1 in 20 are of interest to me. Sometimes photo related. The users give thumbs up or down and some really give long analysis of the programs. Nothing ventured sometimes a gain. d/p

PS: Do look at the UHHog forum about photo tricks.
"The Photo extreamist A Wild and Crazy Guy "
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-1445-1.html#14210
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