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Aug 30, 2018 19:13:37   #
DOOK wrote:
A beautiful shot, Jim--absolutely stunning on double download--superb detail.


Thanks Earl....
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Aug 30, 2018 17:04:02   #
rwilson1942 wrote:


😎
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Aug 30, 2018 11:49:22   #
kpmac wrote:
Beautifully photographed.


Thank You!
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Aug 30, 2018 10:41:39   #
Black & Yellow Argiope. One of the most common, if not the most common, spiders to find in your yard. This is a small one at about 1 1/2". Always fascinating up close!

Orb Weaver

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Aug 28, 2018 09:03:16   #
NJFrank wrote:
The first thing that came to mind is this would make a good background for a composite. In situations where you can not produce an acceptable bokeh effect. In my opinion thisb would work really well.


Agree completely!
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Aug 28, 2018 09:02:48   #
ebrunner wrote:
Wow, so all that bokeh is purely from the lens. Pretty cool.
Erich


Hmmm, where else would it come from?
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Aug 28, 2018 06:33:28   #
ebrunner wrote:
In download it looks like you are shooting lights, not forest. That is interesting. I'm wondering if there was any motion, either the subject or the camera, while you were exposing. I sometimes move my camera to get intentional blur in my photos (people other than me tend not to like them very much though). I was wondering if you were doing the same thing. Just a question.
erich


No movement, at least that was intentional...😉
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Aug 27, 2018 20:06:00   #
artBob wrote:
I hope you get what you need, although it's not clear to me what that is. I would point out that the approach you encountered with me is not "anal," but the type of critique you get when you pay a professional to do a group crit or attend a credit class. Probably best you do not waste your or the others' time by attending those.

Best of luck.


Don't be offended, I've been juried and judged by numerous groups so do understand what you were trying to say. The problem is, you aren't understanding what I was trying to present. It was simply an experiment to see if I could get an image that would adequately demonstrate what all the hype is about regarding this particular Leica lens bokeh. Nothing more, nothing less. I then proceeded to say I thought it was an interesting abstract in it's own right, but that is NOT what I took the image for. This thing developed a life of it's own which was never intended, at least on my part. I was not presenting the image for critique or comment regarding it's merits, just whether the bokeh was properly demonstrated. In that regard, I believe it was.
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Aug 27, 2018 18:06:47   #
artBob wrote:
Abstracts actually do have a focus, not necessarily being in focus, or focusing on a thing, though. The focus could be movement or anger, or serenity, or......several thousand other things that we humans experience and convey in our creations.

This work strikes me as more of a visual experiment in a technical aspect than as an abstract except in the layman's, general sense. Taking it at what it tells us objectively, which is the best way to start with an abstract, here is what I see.

The shapes are pretty much all the same, circles and oblongs. As an abstract they are pretty good, i.e., follow the prime guideline of composition/design, "Unity with Variety." Introducing a few more shapes as contrast would make it a step upwards. The colors also follow that principle, being mostly intense and warm (even the greens being a warm green), with a few duller colorings and other hues mixed in.

The composition, not being yours, but just a random shot, has a pleasant compositional surprise, and some major letdowns. Composition is where it all has to come together as an overall visual experience. The good news is that a circular movement is created by the brighter hues and the directions of the individual shapes. The bad news is the imbalance of the stronger color, yellow, on the left side, and on the lower left side, a boring "clump." The lower right side is a much better example of direction while still creating interest. Then, there's the dark brown, vertical, geometric shape to the right of center that's photo bombed your photo. Aaarggghh! It just doesn't belong.(Snuck in there, eh?) ;-)

So, what you've done is a great start, even if it was mainly an experiment. By working on the other aspects mentioned, experimenting because there are many ways to achieve the ideal "Unity with Variety," whether in camera or via post processing, you should have a challenging but joyful engagement, and end up with a truly great piece. Thanks for brightening up my day!
Abstracts actually do have a focus, not necessaril... (show quote)


Although I'm also guilty of it from time to time, your explanation is precisely the anal approach to examining an image that I think is, by and large, not necessary. Every input has value of course, but I'm trying to go in the other direction by not being so concerned about excessive analyzing......
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Aug 27, 2018 16:08:28   #
R.G. wrote:
As is, the download definitely looks more promising than the thumbnail, and the bokeh is indeed beautiful, but as shown, I'm with Linda - it smacks of unused potential.


Not intended to read too much into the effort. It was originally just to demonstrate bokeh from this lens. I agree that the background could be the beginning of some interesting layer work. Having said that, I still get a good feeling looking at it....and yes, larger has more impact.
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Aug 27, 2018 13:26:52   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Oh definitely. And I think an abstract may be one of the hardest to express why we like or dislike. I tried my best here!


We can sometimes become totally anal trying to describe why we like an image or not. Many times I just stop trying to analyze and ask myself if I have a positive emotional reaction to it. Nothing more, nothing less. With abstracts, this is often where I end up.....
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Aug 27, 2018 13:10:09   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
Oh, the hazards of going first, lol. I interpreted your topic as your simply showing us how cool the bokeh is with that lens. For feedback regarding this as an abstract photograph:

I love the colors and energy! The circles are drawing me in...but I don't find anything when I get there, so I am ultimately disappointed. Since I often don't "get" abstracts, I appreciate a title (is that cheating?), but even with something about its being a forest, this one doesn't really move me.

Hope that explains my subjective opinion a little better.
Oh, the hazards of going first, lol. I interpreted... (show quote)


That's cool, not everyone appreciates abstracts (me included often). Yes, it definitely was/is an experiment to be able to easily visual what all the hype is about regarding the Leica lens bokeh, but I find the result interesting in, and of, itself. No subject to focus on for sure, but that can be typical of many abstracts, no?
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Aug 27, 2018 12:28:56   #
Linda From Maine wrote:
As an experiment to see the bokeh, it sounds like you're pleased. As a casual viewer, I'd like to see a composition with a subject in front Looks like some great possibilities, though!


Sounds like you aren't pleased....and that's fine. You aren't a casual viewer though and whatever happened to the enjoyment of a simple abstract image, especially one with an interesting story? 😳
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Aug 27, 2018 08:58:19   #
A bit of experimenting with a manual Leica Elmarit 90mm f/2.8, a lens known for it's bokeh, adapted to my a7rIII, . Focused as close as possible at f/2.8 into a shaded forest. Interesting results.


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Aug 26, 2018 07:38:27   #
asicit wrote:
Breathtaking!! I'd get up every day at 4 to see that.


Many Thanks
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