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Aug 7, 2014 14:52:59   #
Slot Canyon?
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Aug 7, 2014 13:44:04   #
Mark7829 wrote:
I would do that as well and have. As far a digital editing, there is no difference between LR and ACR. But that being said, many in here are making the claim that LR is all that you need. But that is a limited perspective, as it places a limit on one's creativity.


I agree. PHOTOSHOP is a graphic design program that can go way beyond LIGHTROOM's mere photo editing capabilities. Again, really an Apples to Oranges situation.

I'll have to actually try Lr more to see about it's Raw processing capabilities. I already know there is a lot hidden inside ACR and often I have little to do in full CS6 afterwards.
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Aug 7, 2014 13:06:42   #
Mark7829 wrote:
I have been teaching Bridge/ACR/Photoshop for the last 15 years at the College level.

Bridge/ACR/Photoshop is the complete package. LR organizational tools are legitimate, but with a good organizational strategy, you can get similar results with Bridge. And you are correct - No Importing or Exporting and losing file links. Some say LR is faster, however I am not in a race. I am in pursuit of the highest image quality, flexibility and creativity and is what Bridge/ACR/PS provides. Including tools for focus stacking, content aware, panorama stitching and more. That is why you will find most professionals using PS.
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Tending to agree. But having another tool such as Lr can't hurt (or could it?). So I'll give Lr a try since it is on my PC. I've barely gotten into the Topaz Suite of Plug-Ins, they look interesting but nothing has really excited me yet.
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Aug 7, 2014 12:58:58   #
Gene51 wrote:
Yeah, except for balance of trade and trade subsidy supports from China, the old adage really applies to tripods probably more than any other piece of gear. It goes like this:

You pay for what you get.

You never get what you don't pay for

Buy cheap, the thing you really should have will just cost you that much more.

The Stay Away From Ravelli video I posted is pretty funny. He found out the hard way. :)


Oh, I should have stated that my Gitzo is an oldish, mid-Eighties all metal rig. Very steady. But certainly not for hiking.
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Aug 7, 2014 11:51:36   #
mborn wrote:
An excellent answer without mentioning any brands since we all have a favorite one for each scenario and what is good for me may not be good for you. If there is a camera store near you go and look at the tripods and tripod heads and see what fits you


Good idea. True, not many camera stores these days. I know of two I could go to if need be for whatever. There used to be six in the same region.
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Aug 7, 2014 11:48:40   #
Gene51 wrote:
What camera and lenses do you use with this tripod? What head?



Really!
:wink: ;) ;-) :) :-)
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Aug 7, 2014 11:36:08   #
brucewells wrote:
The strength of Lightroom's cataloging capabilities are such that there are many who say to simply put ALL of your images in one folder, for with Lightroom, it doesn't matter.

I'm more anal than that, so I do have a folder structure that makes sense to me, but Lightroom really doesn't care about it.

I can create a collection of photos of my grand-daughter, for example, and those photos are all over the drive, in various folders. But, with the click of the mouse, they are all immediately made visible to me on screen.

It involves a dedication to workflow. One step in my workflow is to assign photos to a collection, or multiple collections. It doesn't take very long at all, yet reaps huge benefits later on.

I've regularly advocated that a workflow is imperative, yet most of us have difficulty devising one. I've modified mine since initiating it. All that said, one must have an understanding of just what Lightroom can do, which means they must learn enough about Lightroom to gain that understanding. I used "Adobe Lightroom Classroom in a Book" to gain that understanding, and to devise my workflow. I wouldn't dare try this stuff without help from Lightroom.

Example . . . you take a photo of your son standing by his new Corvette in front of a famous statue. There may be only one primary subject (your son), but you may want to pull up the photo because of the statue or the Corvette. In a simple folder structure, do you put this photo in the "Children" folder, the "Automobile" folder or the "Statue" folder? God forbid you make three copies of it, and if it's in your "Children" folder, how will you ever locate that statue or Corvette again?

Some time spent in Lightroom during your chosen workflow can prevent this dilemma with ease.
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Thanks. At least I already have the book. LOL :-)
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Aug 7, 2014 11:32:26   #
Dngallagher wrote:
Easy, Mac has a built in camera raw converter


I thinks Windows does to, but for cameras at the publication of the O/S. Do people actually use those downloaders / converters?
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Aug 7, 2014 11:28:35   #
ras422 wrote:
So much is personal choice and you have already received a number of opinions.I eventually settled with a RRS bh55 ball head and tvc 34L tripod and have not looked back.great stuff.Just remember people a lot of times will defend what they have. Read Tom Hogan's tripod review and advice. When I first started I thought spending over a 100 dollars for a tripod was crazy.good luck with your choices. Rich


"Just remember people a lot of times will defend what they have." Probably true. In my post I did say what I use but I also referred to the stuff I don't use for the original question for landscape the other older equipment that I use in the studio. Even though I am using Manfrotto for field work I know my old heavy Gitzo equipment is far superior and costs so much today that it is beyond my means.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:47:55   #
Greenguy33 wrote:
What are are some good tripods for landscape and nature photography? Which are better, ball heads or pan/tilt heads? What are some pro's and con's of each type of tripod head?


I have a Manfrotto 190XPROB Tripod and two heads; a 322RC2 Ball Head and a 802RC2 Pan Head. I use them for different types of shots. For Panoramas I use the Pan Head, for Flower Macros I'd more likely use the Pistol Grip Ball Head. I have a plate for each camera. For Landscapes I might actually use either head. This is my new set up so I'm not quite fixed on any of the Manfrotto equipment yet. I'll have to say though at even this point I kind of wished I'd bought an even heavier or larger head in each case. I'm using prime lenses in the 19mm - 125mm range, not huge. I have a few longer much heavier Zooms, 28-135mm and 70-210mm. Those being older "film" lenses push my Manfrotto heads to their limit.

For at home studio work and 4x5" view camera work I have an old Gitzo Tripod with two very different Pan Heads. One huge one for my View Cameras and a small one for my 35mm and Digital Cameras. The Gitzo is very heavy and very well made!

Next I need an L-Bracket.
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Aug 7, 2014 05:22:51   #
Mark7829 wrote:
I did not say Bridge/ACR. I said Bridge/ACR/Photoshop. There is no need to use anything else. It is what professionals use. No professional stays in LR. If you want to say, you are faster using LR/PS - who cares? Is this a race or do you want good image quality? if you saved 40% of your time, then you must have been working inefficiently. That is just bullshit to put it bluntly. If you want to list each action and the seconds you saved, please go ahead and list them but again who cares? I can open all of add ons on Bridge/ACR/Photoshop. Bridge/ACR/PS feels clunky? What the hell is that clunky? That is not a word any bona fide professional would ever use to describe one product from others. I know you wrote alot of words but honestly, it was nonsense. I am not impressed.
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Exactly. And how can anyone work with out using ACR to at least import your files? I guess you could use Windows or Mac for in camera shot jpgs. But I shoot Raw and have to use ACR to get my DNG files from my Pentax to my PC HDD. I might try looking for them with Windows and moving them manually but why?
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Aug 7, 2014 05:09:50   #
Bobby Deal wrote:
Can't say I did not shoot or process it Cliff Lawson AKA Captain C shot it at the UHH Gang of 8 Meet up. I hosted in Las Vegas in June. While I don't know what he did to process it but. I can create a similar look using just Photoshop and a few layers


OK. :roll:
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Aug 7, 2014 05:02:44   #
londonfire wrote:
Well, for me, I'll take anything that looks like the old days. I have a newer Acer netbook that's the perfect size for travel but has Win 8.1. I've tried to install Win 7 on it but there seems to be something built in that prevents that. I'm not a computer expert but I've built a few systems and have done plenty of OS installs. Showed it to a couple shops and they have thrown their hands up.


Did you try reformatting the HDD first and then Install Windows 7, then everything else back again? R&R HDD? Perhaps they slipped a "funny" ROM chip on to the MOBO. Might have to change a jumper. Does seem odd. And worrisome.
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Aug 6, 2014 20:51:57   #
Gene51 wrote:
If you work in LR, there is no need to use Bridg/ACR and vice versa. My experience has been that I am MUCH faster with LR/PS that I ever was with Bridge/ACR/PS. Different workflow, and much more efficient. I saved at least 40% of my computer time after switching. I have one working file, one raw/dng file and anywhere from zero to as many virtual iterations of my working and original files as I need - without keeping multiple files in multiple locations. And as I mentioned, I have absolutely no use for jpg other than for output, so they are deleted. The ease with which I can open a raw file, edit it, generate a psd working file, edit it, go back to LR, make additional adjustments to that psd file, open it in OnOne, Portait Pro or Topaz, or assemble images for stacking and opening in Photoshop, or HDR in Photomatix, LrEnfuse/etc etc etc. and always have the latest iteration of my working file on my filmstrip, ready for output - that alone is worth the weekend I invested in getting comfortable with LR4 a couple of years ago. Bridge/ACR just feels "clunky" now.
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Gene51, you may have said something useful to me. I assume you meant one Working [Folder] and one Raw/DNG [Folder] and not "file". With LR how do you set that up in the Lr Library Database? That is what I sort of tried to do or wanted as a way too keep my Raw DNG or TIFF or other Raw files in one Subfolder and my Edited PSD and JPG files in another Subfolder but together in the same group or physical folder in Lr. I got a very messy database that I gave up on and went back to just using Ps.
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Aug 6, 2014 20:40:12   #
londonfire wrote:
Searcher, you mentioned, I think, that someone showed you how to make Win 8 look like Win 7. If that's correct can you point me in that direction? Thanks...Ed


I think that the operating word here is "LOOK LIKE". Not act like or be Windows 7. For me I'll skip 8 /8.1 and stay with 7 / (buggy) Vista / XP. Win 8/8.1 looks like a SmartPhone and not a good Android one either. If Microsoft keeping going towards non-computer-like cell phone interfaces I might be driven to Apple MACs! A START button that does nothing is not useful. No Windows Explorer or Mac Finder no way I can use it.
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