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Aug 7, 2012 13:33:35   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Speculation Grows That Obama May Drop Biden
Mac wrote:
PrairieSeasons wrote:
I'm not certain what you mean using the term "conservatives", as many seem to want to use that word as a collective noun that includes everyone with whom they disagree. That's probably OK, as most of the rest use the term "liberals" as a collective noun for the same reason.

You seem to be implying here that conservatives lie and liberals don't. If you really believe that to be the case, I will bow out of this conversation as it will lead nowhere.


What I'm talking about are things like "Death Panels", liberals being called leftists, socialists, communists. People claiming the vice president drops the f-bomb every second or third word, and so on. Take out the lies and replace them with the truth and what do you have left? nothing.
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And the liberals call the conservatives right wing radicals, fascsits, nazis, racist, stupid, illogical, and call our candidates liars. Take out all of the lies and relace it with the truth and what do liberals have? Nothing.

My statement in reference to Biden using the "f-bomb" every other word was not a lie, it was a figure of speech. As far as I am aware, he is the only vice-president, or president for that matter. to be so openly crude with his language. That is what I meant, I am sure others understood that.
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Aug 7, 2012 08:19:11   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Speculation Grows That Obama May Drop Biden
You know, our current President/Vice President team is such a good role model for our children, the President smokes and drinks in public view, and the Vice President drops the "F-Bomb" with every other word! May actually be good for him to drop Biden, then the new Vice President candidate could drop Obama and get a new Presidential candidate to run with.
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Aug 7, 2012 08:02:32   #
(Main Photography Discussion)
New Rule of Thirds
abby wrote:
Ha Ha!

Rules are meant to broken - 2/3's photo equipment - 1/3 alcohol


Get involved in the political squabbling under General Chit Chat and it will become 2/3 on alcohol and 1/3 on equipment! :P :P :lol: :lol:
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Aug 7, 2012 07:58:53   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Harry Reid
I haven't had good BBQ in years. You just can't find it in Arkansas.
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Aug 6, 2012 20:39:30   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Harry Reid
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
You people are foolish.

The argument is not about Reid. It is about Romney!

What is he hiding?

Romney wants to be President not Reid.

All Romney has to do to prove Reid wrong is release his tax returns. That will prove Harry is a liar!y

Without the released returns, Harry is telling the truth that someone told him Romney has not paid taxes in 10 years.
Can you disprove the statement?



Sarg, you are the foolish one. In this country one is innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof lies with the accuser. The accused does not have to prove their innocence. Until harry proves that what he said is true then he is a liar. And one cannot testify to what he has heard second or third hand, a little thing called hearsay. DON'T YOU HATE THEM FACTS?
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In a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty. In the court of public opinion, Romney is screwed.

By your logic Harry Reid is innocent until proven guilty!!!!
Damn facts!
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How is Harry innocent when he is the one who said it? He is guilty of lying, unless he can prove what he is saying is true. The burden of proof lies with him.

It is amazing how you and ole sarg construe things that are said to suit your agenda. Even to the point of denying something that you said when you cannot find a decent retort. Both of you have lost any (what little you did have) crediblity you may have had in my opinion. By the way, you never did show me if you had learned how to read...
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If you're calling Reid a liar, then the burden of proof is with you. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Simple concept.

However, that is a legal standard, none of this is in court. Every day that this goes on is a loss for Romney, because it distracts from his campaing message. Which raises the question, why doesn't Romney put an end to this by releasing his tax records?
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Incorrect. Reid made the allegation, the burden of proof is on him. He accused Romney of an illegal act, therefore he has to prove what he alleged.
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Once again, this is not in a court of law.
My other point doesn't seem to impress you, so let's stick with the first.
I hope Romney never agrees, and this contriversy will follow him right up to the election. It doesn't matter what you or I believe, we already know who we're voting for. I don't believe that the independant voter is worrying if Harry Reid is lying (possibly in NV), I believe they are interested in who the Presidential candidate is.
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You are correct in stating it is not a court of law. It is the so-called "rumor mill" in which someone can allege anything they wish and slander a persons name, whether it be out of malice or for personal gain. And unfortunately, there are too many gullible people that will believe anything that anyone will say, as long as it suits their agenda.
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Aug 6, 2012 20:35:06   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
What is faith?
eskiles wrote:
Since man began walking upright (women too) they have believed in a "God" of one kind or another. More people on earth believe in some form of deity than not. Many trust in their God and find it truly offensive when anyone dismisses their belief! The Athiest and Agnostics are the same way about their beliefs! Have a little compassion and stop bickering because neither side has proof of their belief.
Faith in your belief is a personal, quest of self.
Many have hurt and had their feelings hurt. Let's all say sorry and go back to posting pictures...
Since man began walking upright (women too) they h... (show quote)


You, sir, are a wise man! I agree wholeheartedly.
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Aug 6, 2012 20:32:28   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Harry Reid
Blurryeyed wrote:
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
You people are foolish.

The argument is not about Reid. It is about Romney!

What is he hiding?

Romney wants to be President not Reid.

All Romney has to do to prove Reid wrong is release his tax returns. That will prove Harry is a liar!y

Without the released returns, Harry is telling the truth that someone told him Romney has not paid taxes in 10 years.
Can you disprove the statement?



Sarg, you are the foolish one. In this country one is innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof lies with the accuser. The accused does not have to prove their innocence. Until harry proves that what he said is true then he is a liar. And one cannot testify to what he has heard second or third hand, a little thing called hearsay. DON'T YOU HATE THEM FACTS?
quote=ole sarg You people are foolish. br br The... (show quote)


In a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty. In the court of public opinion, Romney is screwed.

By your logic Harry Reid is innocent until proven guilty!!!!
Damn facts!
quote=dtcracer quote=ole sarg You people are foo... (show quote)


How is Harry innocent when he is the one who said it? He is guilty of lying, unless he can prove what he is saying is true. The burden of proof lies with him.

It is amazing how you and ole sarg construe things that are said to suit your agenda. Even to the point of denying something that you said when you cannot find a decent retort. Both of you have lost any (what little you did have) crediblity you may have had in my opinion. By the way, you never did show me if you had learned how to read...
quote=micro quote=dtcracer quote=ole sarg You p... (show quote)


If you're calling Reid a liar, then the burden of proof is with you. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Simple concept.

However, that is a legal standard, none of this is in court. Every day that this goes on is a loss for Romney, because it distracts from his campaing message. Which raises the question, why doesn't Romney put an end to this by releasing his tax records?
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LOL I got a bigger kick out of Pelosi's retort.... "Harry Reid is not lying, someone did tell him that.."

This is the democratic leadership in congress hard at work....
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And I'll bet SHE couldn't identify the alleged person who allegedly said this to Reid, either!
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Aug 6, 2012 20:28:38   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
What is faith?
RixPix wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
jazzplayer wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
He went mad because he turned his back on God. Therefore when Satan saw an opening in a willing recipient, he took advantage of it, which caused him to lose his mind.
Why, of course! - Nietzsche was, oh, so evil. Sheesh. As usual for Xtians, it's all about that nasty Devil. Watch out! He lives here! Ooga Booga!! Flee while you still can!!!


Don't know what you are talking about. For the record I am a CHRISTian, I believe in, and follow the teachings of Christ. I am not a xtian, as I do not believe in anyone named x. I do believe that you are very childish, though.
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You know like Xmas. :(
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I don't celebrate any xmas, I celebrate CHRISTmas, which is the celebration of the birth of my Lord and Saviour, Jesus CHRIST. I don't believe anyone named x was born on that day, that is worthy of celebrating.
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Aug 6, 2012 20:26:53   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Harry Reid
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
You people are foolish.

The argument is not about Reid. It is about Romney!

What is he hiding?

Romney wants to be President not Reid.

All Romney has to do to prove Reid wrong is release his tax returns. That will prove Harry is a liar!y

Without the released returns, Harry is telling the truth that someone told him Romney has not paid taxes in 10 years.
Can you disprove the statement?



Sarg, you are the foolish one. In this country one is innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof lies with the accuser. The accused does not have to prove their innocence. Until harry proves that what he said is true then he is a liar. And one cannot testify to what he has heard second or third hand, a little thing called hearsay. DON'T YOU HATE THEM FACTS?
quote=ole sarg You people are foolish. br br The... (show quote)


In a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty. In the court of public opinion, Romney is screwed.

By your logic Harry Reid is innocent until proven guilty!!!!
Damn facts!
quote=dtcracer quote=ole sarg You people are foo... (show quote)


How is Harry innocent when he is the one who said it? He is guilty of lying, unless he can prove what he is saying is true. The burden of proof lies with him.

It is amazing how you and ole sarg construe things that are said to suit your agenda. Even to the point of denying something that you said when you cannot find a decent retort. Both of you have lost any (what little you did have) crediblity you may have had in my opinion. By the way, you never did show me if you had learned how to read...
quote=micro quote=dtcracer quote=ole sarg You p... (show quote)


If you're calling Reid a liar, then the burden of proof is with you. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Simple concept.

However, that is a legal standard, none of this is in court. Every day that this goes on is a loss for Romney, because it distracts from his campaing message. Which raises the question, why doesn't Romney put an end to this by releasing his tax records?
quote=dtcracer quote=micro quote=dtcracer quot... (show quote)


Incorrect. Reid made the allegation, the burden of proof is on him. He accused Romney of an illegal act, therefore he has to prove what he alleged.
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Aug 6, 2012 19:59:14   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
What is faith?
jazzplayer wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
I do believe that you are very childish, though.
Really, you really believe that I AM childish, and not just ACTING childish? Wow, thanks! Oh, wait, I guess I'm shooting for "child-like", not "-ish"... well, close enough!

"I don't wan-na grow up..." :lol:


Ok, you got me on my grammar. The question I now must ask, are you a Toys R Us kid? 8-)
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Aug 6, 2012 19:43:22   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
What is faith?
jazzplayer wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
He went mad because he turned his back on God. Therefore when Satan saw an opening in a willing recipient, he took advantage of it, which caused him to lose his mind.
Why, of course! - Nietzsche was, oh, so evil. Sheesh. As usual for Xtians, it's all about that nasty Devil. Watch out! He lives here! Ooga Booga!! Flee while you still can!!!


Don't know what you are talking about. For the record I am a CHRISTian, I believe in, and follow the teachings of Christ. I am not a xtian, as I do not believe in anyone named x. I do believe that you are very childish, though.
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Aug 6, 2012 19:40:00   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Can't let Sarge hog all the glory.
Good old Mom! Can't ever slip one by!
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Aug 6, 2012 19:36:15   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
What is faith?
Bangee5 wrote:
RixPix wrote - "FAITH MEANS NOT WANTING TO KNOW WHAT IS TRUE - Friedrich Nietzsche"

Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) was a German atheist philosopher whose work set a foundation for the existentialist movement of the 1900s. Nietzsche went mad and suffered a mental breakdown, from which he never recovered.

Friedrich Nietzsche was the son of Carl Ludwig Nietzsche, a Lutheran pastor.

Faith is not wanting to know what is true, coming from a mad man, dose that even make sense to you? Friedrich not having a faith of his own in God did want to know what is true. Maybe he had a bad relationship with his Lutheran father.
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He went mad because he turned his back on God. Therefore when Satan saw an opening in a willing recipient, he took advantage of it, which caused him to lose his mind.
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Aug 6, 2012 19:30:53   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Harry Reid
micro wrote:
dtcracer wrote:
ole sarg wrote:
You people are foolish.

The argument is not about Reid. It is about Romney!

What is he hiding?

Romney wants to be President not Reid.

All Romney has to do to prove Reid wrong is release his tax returns. That will prove Harry is a liar!y

Without the released returns, Harry is telling the truth that someone told him Romney has not paid taxes in 10 years.
Can you disprove the statement?



Sarg, you are the foolish one. In this country one is innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof lies with the accuser. The accused does not have to prove their innocence. Until harry proves that what he said is true then he is a liar. And one cannot testify to what he has heard second or third hand, a little thing called hearsay. DON'T YOU HATE THEM FACTS?
quote=ole sarg You people are foolish. br br The... (show quote)


In a court of law, you are innocent until proven guilty. In the court of public opinion, Romney is screwed.

By your logic Harry Reid is innocent until proven guilty!!!!
Damn facts!
quote=dtcracer quote=ole sarg You people are foo... (show quote)


How is Harry innocent when he is the one who said it? He is guilty of lying, unless he can prove what he is saying is true. The burden of proof lies with him.

It is amazing how you and ole sarg construe things that are said to suit your agenda. Even to the point of denying something that you said when you cannot find a decent retort. Both of you have lost any (what little you did have) crediblity you may have had in my opinion. By the way, you never did show me if you had learned how to read...
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Aug 6, 2012 19:27:06   #
(General Chit-Chat (non-photography talk))
Harry Reid
ole sarg wrote:
Are you saying that someone told Ried that Mittens did not pay his taxes?

If so, I think you will lose that one.

If Mittens did pay taxes show us the proof!

What is he hiding?


No, sarg, you are the one who said that someone told Reid that Mitt Romney had not paid taxes. Have you already forgot what you had stated in your previous post???
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