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Mar 14, 2019 13:22:20   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
Are you being silly again? You have zero proof that Olympus is going out of business. Stop acting like a little boy.


Tom … all links to these articles are already in this very thread. All you need do is follow them through.

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Mar 14, 2019 14:06:20   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
Tom … all links to these articles are already in this very thread. All you need do is follow them through.


For at least 8 years you read the same claim that Olympus is done. How many articles did you read prior to Samsung getting out of the camera business? I mean interchangeable cameras.

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Mar 14, 2019 14:37:28   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
For at least 8 years you read the same claim that Olympus is done. How many articles did you read prior to Samsung getting out of the camera business? I mean interchangeable cameras.


Not me, Tom … must've been someone else. Read the article, Tom - it's only a couple of months old.

You know - the last time you mentioned Samsung - IN THIS VERY THREAD - you pointed out Samsung was over and done with - and I was quick to point out the Galaxy NX series - is still very much with us. But, perhaps - because it was convenient not to acknowledge it - to advance your argument, you chose to ignore it … do yourself a favor, Tom … and Google the Samsung Galaxy NX-30 … would you, PLEASE!!!!

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Mar 14, 2019 14:41:31   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
Not me, Tom … must've been someone else. Read the article, Tom - it's only a couple of months old.

You know - the last time you mentioned Samsung - IN THIS VERY THREAD - you pointed out Samsung was over and done with - and I was quick to point out the Galaxy NX series - is still very much with us. But, perhaps - because it was convenient not to acknowledge it - to advance your argument, you chose to ignore it … do yourself a favor, Tom … and Google the Samsung Galaxy NX-30 … would you, PLEASE!!!!
Not me, Tom … must've been someone else. Read the ... (show quote)


Who claimed that you have been saying it for 8 years? Please reread what I wrote.

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Mar 14, 2019 14:43:48   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
Not me, Tom … must've been someone else. Read the article, Tom - it's only a couple of months old.

You know - the last time you mentioned Samsung - IN THIS VERY THREAD - you pointed out Samsung was over and done with - and I was quick to point out the Galaxy NX series - is still very much with us. But, perhaps - because it was convenient not to acknowledge it - to advance your argument, you chose to ignore it … do yourself a favor, Tom … and Google the Samsung Galaxy NX-30 … would you, PLEASE!!!!
Not me, Tom … must've been someone else. Read the ... (show quote)


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Mar 14, 2019 14:47:02   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
Who claimed that you have been saying it for 8 years? Please reread what I wrote.


You did, Tom … and I quote YOU here:

"For at least 8 years you read the same claim that Olympus is done."

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Mar 14, 2019 14:55:57   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Tom - since when did Wikipedia have the final say on everything?

Perhaps, it would pay you to go to Samsung's OWN site for the Galaxy NX series …

Maybe, even - go to some of those camera comparison sites which compare the latest model of XYZ to ALL of Samsung's previous Galaxy NX entries ... that would SURELY give your mind a reawakening!!!!!

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Mar 15, 2019 00:02:37   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
Are you being silly again? You have zero proof that Olympus is going out of business. Stop acting like a little boy.

What on earth are you talking about?

You said "Olympus isn't going anywhere."
Personally, I think Olympus is going along nicely.

Does your mommy know you're on the Internet? Did you
get her permission?

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Mar 17, 2019 00:26:01   #
User ID
 
Bipod wrote:

What does "perfected" mean?

...............

What's the sensor part number and
has it been announced in any camera?
No more vague rumors, please.



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Mar 19, 2019 16:22:07   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
There is an update yesterday on Global Shutter progress at Sony. No word on when this will show up in APS-C and FF cameras, but my guess is that they are going for it.

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/press-text-sony-develops-a-stacked-cmos-global-shutter-image-sensor/

I am also including a cross section of the design comparing conventional vs BSI. Notice the much wider incident light angle. One restraint that new lenses have is that the deeper wells used in conventional designs limit the angle of usable incident light. And notice also the much wider incident light angle in the BSI design.

Why is this important?

In reading David Busch's book on the Sony A7iii, he explains how digital lenses for conventional sensors are constrained to project the light in a straight path onto the sensor whereas the BSI design is perfectly content with light coming at lower angles which is how the older film cameras were designed. As an example of that, I have been playing with my Sony A7iii (which has a BSI sensor) and older Asahai Pentax Takumar lenses, and I am really liking the results more so than in using my older A99 which has now been sold.

Additionally, the article goes on to say how this sensor has really high precision and high processing speeds. Placing the circuitry and wiring onto the other side allows room for the pixels to use the sizes they need to use for a given design. Sounds like earlier tradeoffs for global shutters is no longer a concern.

The way Sony is working on global shutter, it certainly sounds like it is coming. And just guessing, I suspect that this is why the A7000 and A7siii are taking longer to be released. Also makes me wonder if Global Shutter is perfected, will they completely remove the mechanical shutter? What sense does having a mechanical shutter have if the Global Shutter can do everything the Mechanical Shutter can do?

A Global Shutter opens other possibilities too. Since the entire array can be accessed at once, perhaps they can come up with new ways to combine images and to reduce noise where a series of shots can be processed real time and to then produce a RAW file from the processed results. Sony today can do multi-frame noise reduction, and it works really well. But it requires shooting in JPEG and requires all the overhead time needed to shoot the multiple shots before it generates the final result. With Global Shutter, I expect that this process will be faster, perhaps much faster and increase the types of shots it can be used for.

I'm sure that there are many other things that can be thought of too.


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Mar 19, 2019 18:48:17   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
What on earth are you talking about?

You said "Olympus isn't going anywhere."
Personally, I think Olympus is going along nicely.

Does your mommy know you're on the Internet? Did you
get her permission?


Seems you can’t follow this thread. Chris t is posting claims that Olympus May go out of business. It is simply not true.

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Mar 19, 2019 22:36:21   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
Seems you can’t follow this thread. Chris t is posting claims that Olympus May go out of business. It is simply not true.


That article can be read - straight from the horse's mouth, Tom - by following through the links provided earlier in this very thread.

I am NOT claiming anything, Tom ….

Just sharing the content of the post provided at that link …

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Mar 19, 2019 22:40:27   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
That article can be read - straight from the horse's mouth, Tom - by following through the links provided earlier in this very thread.

I am NOT claiming anything, Tom ….

Just sharing the content of the post provided at that link …


Fake news Chris. Olympus is not going out of business. Similar type of claims have been made numerous times in the last 10 years. The truth is that Olympus is introducing new cameras and lenses this year.

Lots and lots of people don’t want to carry heavy gear as they age. M4/3 is perfect for them.

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Mar 19, 2019 22:57:26   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
tdekany wrote:
Fake news Chris. Olympus is not going out of business. Similar type of claims have been made numerous times in the last 10 years. The truth is that Olympus is introducing new cameras and lenses this year.

Lots and lots of people don’t want to carry heavy gear as they age. M4/3 is perfect for them.


It wasn't "fake news" Tom … you read the report … the board is worried, as Oly is losing money!!!!

Sure … so Oly comes out with the E-M1X - the heaviest MFT ever made!!!!

And, then - Panasonic shows its REAL colors, unveiling the FF S1 and S1 R - the largest, heaviest MILCs, yet!

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Mar 19, 2019 23:04:00   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Chris T wrote:
It wasn't "fake news" Tom … you read the report … the board is worried, as Oly is loosing money!!!!

Sure … so Oly comes out with the E-M1X - the heaviest MFT ever made!!!!

And, then - Panasonic shows its REAL colors - unveiling the FF S and S R - the largest, heaviest MILCs, yet!


Chris, just go out and take photos friend. Olympus is going to be fine, years ago, one of the executives said that the camera division is there to push the envelope.

As far as Panasonic, it wants to have a piece of the FF pie. What true colors? Nikon and canon introduced 2 each FF mirrorless cameras. So what? There are plenty of cameras available to purchase. We will be able to take photos for a long long time. No need to be concerned.

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