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Mar 14, 2019 13:49:02   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I have a question for Elaine. Elaine wrote, "He has not done anything since taking office that makes me question his integrity." Is this an admission that Trump did things before he assumed the presidency which showed a lack of integrity? Which acts or behaviors are you referring to specifically? Do you think that he suddenly became a person of integrity when he entered the White House?


No George it isn't any kind of admission. I am looking at what Trump is doing for America, I am looking at his job performance as President. In all of the things I have read about Trump prior to taking office, there is one thing that is glaring absent. Actual Proof. People gossip, repeat crap, and it becomes true to them. They use BAZTHINK which the way Baz defined it is if he believes it sincerely, it is true.

I do think a lot of democrats are jealous over the success Trump has created. Before you start talking about a bankruptcy, go read about all of the successful people that have declared bankruptcy. He has never been accused of rape, but the dems were fine with Bill Clinton being a serial rapist that the dems defended and the victims were called sluts and whores by hildabeast. Dems were fine with obummer going around the world apologizing for Americans. Dems were fine with obummer importing muslims by the tens of thousands. You don't have to look to hard to see the issues this has created.

You want to apply standards, apply them across the board to both parties. I am not saying either party is perfect, but when they are guilty they should be held to the same standard as anyone else.

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Mar 14, 2019 14:36:52   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Why bring up Fox?

The other media, such as the NBC lineups, air her every word and Nancy seems insanely preoccupied with her.

You and your fascist progressive brethren are projecting.......again!


All you have to do is read the posts in the attic. Conservatives frequently comment on Ocasio Cortez. This post originated as a diatribe about her which was started by a conservative. I have not seen posts by Democrats here supporting her because most Democrats do not support her. However, the Democrat Party is a big tent with a lot of diverse opinions. Every Democrat does not and should not think exactly alike. The conservative leadership wants to paint us all as socialists who favor open borders so their base will continue to be filled with fear and rant about an obscure freshman congresswoman from New York.

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Mar 14, 2019 14:42:42   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
gorgehiker wrote:
All you have to do is read the posts in the attic. Conservatives frequently comment on Ocasio Cortez. This post originated as a diatribe about her which was started by a conservative. I have not seen posts by Democrats here supporting her because most Democrats do not support her. However, the Democrat Party is a big tent with a lot of diverse opinions. Every Democrat does not and should not think exactly alike. The conservative leadership wants to paint us all as socialists who favor open borders so their base will continue to be filled with fear and rant about an obscure freshman congresswoman from New York.
All you have to do is read the posts in the attic.... (show quote)


George, AOC and the media present her as the dominant force in the democrat party. AOC leaves no room for diversity, she is a socialist to the core with very stupid, ignorant ideas, and as a person she is pretty dumb.

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Mar 14, 2019 14:58:30   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
George, AOC and the media present her as the dominant force in the democrat party. AOC leaves no room for diversity, she is a socialist to the core with very stupid, ignorant ideas, and as a person she is pretty dumb.


What bothers me is that she was elected.

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Mar 14, 2019 15:05:22   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
letmedance wrote:
What bothers me is that she was elected.


I know. Who would elect that kind of crazy?

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Mar 14, 2019 15:07:55   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
I agree with most of what you said. which does not appear to be in line with the democrats thinking. That is interesting. On Trump, I like what the guy does, sometimes I wish I could tell him to shut up, but overall I believe he is what this country needs at this time and he will get my vote. I like how he fights for Americans and I really don't care who he had affairs with 10 or 20 years ago or more. He has not done anything since taking office that makes me question his integrity. People say crap about a long time ago, but unless there is proof and court documents, to me it is crap. He has gotten Kim talking, not that they are trusted, but it is a start to get people to the table. Past leaders acted like the didn't exist. Kim is no longer firing missiles and that is a good thing. Have a good day George.
I agree with most of what you said. which does not... (show quote)


👍👍👍

Dennis

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Mar 14, 2019 15:11:48   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I have a question for Elaine. Elaine wrote, "He has not done anything since taking office that makes me question his integrity." Is this an admission that Trump did things before he assumed the presidency which showed a lack of integrity? Which acts or behaviors are you referring to specifically? Do you think that he suddenly became a person of integrity when he entered the White House?


It's been in the news that Obama's DOJ would not allow the FBI (who was investigating Hillary's email server) see the emails. Would you say that Obama or Lynch were people of integrity?
I won't even both asking about Hillary because that would be ludicrous.

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Mar 14, 2019 15:13:26   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
No George it isn't any kind of admission. I am looking at what Trump is doing for America, I am looking at his job performance as President. In all of the things I have read about Trump prior to taking office, there is one thing that is glaring absent. Actual Proof. People gossip, repeat crap, and it becomes true to them. They use BAZTHINK which the way Baz defined it is if he believes it sincerely, it is true.

I do think a lot of democrats are jealous over the success Trump has created. Before you start talking about a bankruptcy, go read about all of the successful people that have declared bankruptcy. He has never been accused of rape, but the dems were fine with Bill Clinton being a serial rapist that the dems defended and the victims were called sluts and whores by hildabeast. Dems were fine with obummer going around the world apologizing for Americans. Dems were fine with obummer importing muslims by the tens of thousands. You don't have to look to hard to see the issues this has created.

You want to apply standards, apply them across the board to both parties. I am not saying either party is perfect, but when they are guilty they should be held to the same standard as anyone else.
No George it isn't any kind of admission. I am loo... (show quote)


👍👍👍

Elaine you are having a winning day. I agree with all you posted.

Democrats were ready to impeach Trump the first day he took office. Now there is more evidence against Obama, Hillary, Comey and many others but they still blame Trump who is doing well for America.

Dennis

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Mar 14, 2019 15:25:42   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
What bothers me is that she was elected.


I’d take her to Doornan or Rohrbacher that you guys elected for years, or Bachman or Gohmert.

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Mar 14, 2019 15:31:43   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
thom w wrote:
I’d take her to Doornan or Rohrbacher that you guys elected for years, or Bachman or Gohmert.


Little tommie, you got her, she represents the lib fascist socialist dems. Good luck with that. Wait till people listen to her tell them to take a train to Hawaii, stop flying or any of her other idiotic misinformed ideas. It will be a true joy to watch.

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Mar 14, 2019 18:40:42   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
I’d take her to Doornan or Rohrbacher that you guys elected for years, or Bachman or Gohmert.


You would as you are a Socialist wannabe. You are brighter than she but I would not vote for you or any Socialist, our Country and its political system has lasted longer than most because we have not accepted Communism or Socialism.

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Mar 14, 2019 21:56:34   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I am a realist. In an ideal world, every person engaging in sex would either be ready to be a responsible parent or be using birth control. This is the real world. Let's provide sex education and make birth control readily available to all. I do not consider people who came here as children with their parents years ago to be any sort of "aliens". Let's provide a pathway to citizenship for non-citizens living here who have not committed crimes and are contributing to our society. Have you heard from border agents who say that a wall is necessary across the entire border? The experts I have seen say that a wall is necessary in some areas and not in others. If we had a strong e-verify system, illegal immigrants would not come here because they would not find jobs. However, be prepared to pay higher prices for food and labor if we shut down illegal immigration. That is simply reality!
I am a realist. In an ideal world, every person e... (show quote)


This is the real world where actions have consequences. Why not hold people to a standard?
Birth control is readily available everywhere in America. The problem is abortions are dime a dozen available to any couple that asks for one regardless of causation. A human is not an accident.

Illegal aliens who bring children here need to be punished for their illegal actions.
DACA kids should get an automagic path to citizenship....
You site some needed reforms, but reforming of the majority of immigration laws is what’s imperative.
No anchor babies.
No relatives..everyone is an individual.
Break all the chains...
Build the wall now!

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Mar 14, 2019 21:57:06   #
Tex-s
 
gorgehiker wrote:
There are 235 Democrats serving in the House of Representatives. Fox News and conservative media want their minions to believe that Ocasio Cortez represents every Democrat in the nation. I am just your average moderate Democrat. I am not a socialist and I do not support open borders and neither do most of my Democratic friends.


The new women DO control the course of the Democrats. The establishment Democrats are too damned afraid of alienating the socialist left to stop the stupidity. Pelosi et al simply let everything slide, appolgizing for anti-Semitism, endorsing a Green New Deal that purports to BOTH rebuild the who;e nation and abolish energy...... I'm rooting for AOC, as no faster path to irrelevance exists for the leftists.

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Mar 14, 2019 22:14:11   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Frank T wrote:
Still afraid of a girl?


You should be..she is representing your increasingly WEAK party!!!! Sending money to. Jussie,s defense fund, scared franki?...

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Mar 14, 2019 22:15:22   #
Angmo
 
wilpharm wrote:
You should be..she is representing your increasingly WEAK party!!!! Sending money to. Jussie,s defense fund, scared franki?...


Fwankie’s wurld is gonna end in 11 years and 11 months.

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