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Mar 10, 2019 11:10:21   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
MilRic wrote:
Don't you just love it when people are happy to pay taxes!


I'm happy to pay my taxes at every level. I'm not always happy with what use is made of them, nor with the levels (at least in terms of my local property tax) they're set at.

But living in a great country like the US has a cost and I'm happy to pay it. I've benefited from the economic system, infrastructure, and public services more than many, and I don't mind paying more for the privileges I've enjoyed. I'm in a high tax bracket but not wealthy enough to take advantage of the strategies of "The One Percent" and I'm perfectly fine with that.

Andy

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Mar 10, 2019 11:12:52   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Longshadow wrote:
Some do, albeit a low number.
(I don't as I look at is I've used that state's/country's infrastructure while I was there.)
But in a way we do because just being at the store uses infrastructure resources, some of which the store pays and some the buyer pays. Tax models among are all over the map and not just related to state boundaries. A camera arrives from Asia and is sold at a U.S. store to hopefully earn its final tax. In the meantime we might pay a tariff, port authority fee, road taxes and tolls the truckers paid to bring it from the port, the business and other taxes the store pays just to be there and on any profit they make, and the taxes we pay to the federal and state governments on the money we made when we earn it even before we spend it. Soon we will be taxed for NOT spending: SS and Medicare will be cut in the form of means testing for those who contributed their whole life if they had the sense to save a little. Just remember, "You didn't buy that, someone else did." It all comes out in the wash, or soak, depending where in the big picture you fit. Where we might pay sales tax is a minor detail. We don't even own land, buildings, cars, or boats. We rent them from our local county government. Even with all that, though, it's not a bad place to live, yet.

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Mar 10, 2019 11:54:04   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Retina wrote:
But in a way we do because just being at the store uses infrastructure resources, some of which the store pays and some the buyer pays. Tax models among are all over the map and not just related to state boundaries. A camera arrives from Asia and is sold at a U.S. store to hopefully earn its final tax. In the meantime we might pay a tariff, port authority fee, road taxes and tolls the truckers paid to bring it from the port, the business and other taxes the store pays just to be there and on any profit they make, and the taxes we pay to the federal and state governments on the money we made when we earn it even before we spend it. Soon we will be taxed for NOT spending: SS and Medicare will be cut in the form of means testing for those who contributed their whole life if they had the sense to save a little. Just remember, "You didn't buy that, someone else did." It all comes out in the wash, or soak, depending where in the big picture you fit. Where we might pay sales tax is a minor detail. We don't even own land, buildings, cars, or boats. We rent them from our local county government. Even with all that, though, it's not a bad place to live, yet.
But in a way we do because just being at the store... (show quote)

Most of us in this thread are referring only to state sales tax.

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Mar 10, 2019 11:59:14   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
For years back I was going to spend a lot of time on a sailboat.
I bought it in Annapolis MD. I told them I was going to shake down the boat and
take it to Florida etc. I had done this years ago I declared I would not be staying their.
The boat was documented so it was not a Maryland boat the dealer got the order in MD.
This time they came back to me and said you have to pay the tax this time. But I was
documented which made me a US boat that could travel anywhere.
The boat was a good deal so I paid a small fortune for the tax. MD had changed the ruling.
Taxed overall the luxury tax basically destroyed the boat business. Very few by traveling boats
like they used to.

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Mar 10, 2019 14:53:32   #
Shutterbug57
 
Retina wrote:
This targets honest, hard working slobs, too. Some people don't keep a list of everything they buy out-of-state. As an amateur with a number of hobbies but a pro when it comes to losing receipts, I agree with your point and welcome when out-of-state vendors collect sales tax. I never heard of someone from a non-tax state visiting a state with sales tax and arguing with a sales clerk whether or not he should pay it based on his residence. Does having goods shipped change anything?


Yes, having items shipped makes them subject to the recipients state tax laws. If no sales tax at the receiving end, then no tax should be charged. FWIW, if you go to B&H and look up your purchases for a year, they total them for you. Amazon will show you all your orders, but you have to look through them to see what was taxed and not.

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Mar 10, 2019 15:07:42   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
Yes, having items shipped makes them subject to the recipients state tax laws. If no sales tax at the receiving end, then no tax should be charged. FWIW, if you go to B&H and look up your purchases for a year, they total them for you. Amazon will show you all your orders, but you have to look through them to see what was taxed and not.

Thank you very much for that.

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Mar 10, 2019 15:28:45   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Longshadow wrote:
Most of us in this thread are referring only to state sales tax.

Sorry, my fault. I should have spelled out my intent. It was about state sales tax but with the perspective that it is only the last of a long line of taxes and government fees that goods sold by B&H and others pick up along along the way to retail. My thought was to minimize the "bad news for Californians and maybe others" with the hope that this last tax not seem so bad overall, especially since it is supposed to be collected one way or the other.

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Mar 10, 2019 17:26:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Retina wrote:
Sorry, my fault. I should have spelled out my intent. It was about state sales tax but with the perspective that it is only the last of a long line of taxes and government fees that goods sold by B&H and others pick up along along the way to retail. My thought was to minimize the "bad news for Californians and maybe others" with the hope that this last tax not seem so bad overall, especially since it is supposed to be collected one way or the other.

Well, as a piece of the tax puzzle, it is small, but most are referring to principle.
Never used to be tax on out of state mail orders,
unless that business had a presence in the state where you lived.

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Mar 10, 2019 18:14:05   #
shoelessjoe
 
I live in Delaware which doesn't have a sales tax so everything shipped here is not taxable. They do have a 2% to 6% income tax but no sales tax. The 0 sales tax will not change here because it is a draw for shoppers from near by states.

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Mar 10, 2019 18:19:03   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Longshadow wrote:
Well, as a piece of the tax puzzle, it is small, but most are referring to principle.
Never used to be tax on out of state mail orders, unless that business had a presence in the state where you lived.
Collecting and forwarding state sales tax receipts for out-of-state customers is yet another cost of doing business. We should at least be aware they try to absorb these costs and others without raising prices.

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Mar 10, 2019 19:12:35   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Hopefully this will encourage local camera shops to pop up.

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Mar 10, 2019 20:17:34   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Retina wrote:
Collecting and forwarding state sales tax receipts for out-of-state customers is yet another cost of doing business. We should at least be aware they try to absorb these costs and others without raising prices.

Yea, more overhead.......

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Mar 10, 2019 20:44:45   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
wnagel wrote:
I live in California. Visited B&H today in NYC. Was told that as of April 15, B&H will be collecting California sales tax. Didn't ask about other states.


Started already in Illinois. Now I'll likely buy local if they have in in stock and a decent return policy.

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Mar 11, 2019 03:06:58   #
ICN3S Loc: Cave Junction, OR
 
I'm also in oregon......won't be happy if I have to start paying tax!

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Mar 12, 2019 13:50:50   #
Besperus Loc: Oregon
 
wnagel wrote:
I live in California. Visited B&H today in NYC. Was told that as of April 15, B&H will be collecting California sales tax. Didn't ask about other states.


Move to Oregon or Montana. No sales tax.

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