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Mar 9, 2019 20:47:59   #
D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
rjaywallace wrote:
That is fake news. The tax collecting vendor does not need a “physical” presence in my state. FEDERAL tax regulations have for many years required the collection of tax, but those rules weren’t being enforced. Now they are, and the vendors are starting to comply. It’s a patchwork quilt right now:
...B&H - yes
...Adorama - no
...Amazon - yes on some things, no on others
...Tourneau (high end jewelry) - no
...KEH - has been complying in recent years
Consumers have skated past this issue for years, now they are being required to do their part (and not just because of the damn wall).
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I sell on eBay. I shipped something to a guy in Washington not long ago and for the first time ever eBay charged him sales tax. It’s all gotta be related. Just part of all the extra money Trump promised us.

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Mar 9, 2019 20:49:13   #
D-Train Loc: Bend, Oregon
 
AndyH wrote:
Yes. It's entirely up to the states. What state is NOT going to collect sales tax if it's a choice?

Andy


Oregon. We have no sales tax here.

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Mar 9, 2019 21:14:41   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
D-Train wrote:
Oregon. We have no sales tax here.


Well Duh! I should have said, "What state with a sales tax is going to voluntarily not collect it?"

New Hampshire doesn't have a sales tax either. Nor an income tax. We just have poor infrastructure and schools and one of the highest and most burdensome property taxes in the nation.

Andy

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Mar 9, 2019 21:34:06   #
Glenn Harve
 
D-Train wrote:
I sell on eBay. I shipped something to a guy in Washington not long ago and for the first time ever eBay charged him sales tax. It’s all gotta be related. Just part of all the extra money Trump promised us.


Good grief, how can so many be so uneducated, and vocal about it. Sales tax is a state, not a federal tax.

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Mar 9, 2019 21:34:59   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Since many people don't pay the use tax, and it is difficult to enforce and rare that people get caught, having out of state merchants collect it finally allows the states to get the tax owed them and helps local merchants to compete.


Nothing like stating the obvious. As if we couldn’t figure that out.

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Mar 9, 2019 22:03:54   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
AndyH wrote:
I live in a state with no sales or income tax. We also have crumbling roads and infrastructure, generally poor schools except in the most affluent communities, and poor public services. Not to mention some of the highest property tax rates in the nation - which have a higher impact on the elderly and those on fixed incomes. Although we continually vote down broad based taxes, the support for them has been growing - mostly FROM those newcomers who are used to better schools, roads, and services.

Meanwhile, our neighbor Massachusetts has a higher net in-migration rate, despite its reputation (partly deserved) as "Taxachusetts".

Seems illogical, but them's the facts.

Andy
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You are lucky, we have a mayor and governor who are progressive, which means give the entire store away and worry about paying for it later. NYC and NY state.

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Mar 9, 2019 22:11:12   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Same with Alaska. We are not taxing ourselves right to the bottom. Schools underfunded, university in trouble, infrastructure crumbling.
AndyH wrote:
Well Duh! I should have said, "What state with a sales tax is going to voluntarily not collect it?"

New Hampshire doesn't have a sales tax either. Nor an income tax. We just have poor infrastructure and schools and one of the highest and most burdensome property taxes in the nation.

Andy

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Mar 9, 2019 22:22:58   #
Shutterbug57
 
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Bgcarl wrote:
This has been a controversial subject and often the point is made that states want their “fair share” and freeloaders should not be allowed to dodge their responsibility to pay a tax to their local state. Another point to consider; the out-of-state vendor uses none of the buyer’s state resources for which the tax is supposed to support, e.g., road maintenance, law enforcement protection, fire services, street lights, local parks, traffic control, etc., etc. Not wanting to argue with anyone but just tossing this out for a bit of balance.

BGCARL
Marietta, GA
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They also don’t get to keep the tax. Not sure what your point is.

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Mar 9, 2019 23:00:57   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Glenn Harve wrote:
Good grief, how can so many be so uneducated, and vocal about it. Sales tax is a state, not a federal tax.


But it was a Supreme Court (part of the Federal Government) decision that set this all in motion when they reversed a prior SCOTUS decision.

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Mar 10, 2019 01:43:02   #
PatM Loc: Rocky Mount Mo.
 
In other news, California has passed new legislation levying a Megapixel surtax on all newly manufactured high end photographic equipment. Beginning in January 2020 Cameras with more than 10 megapixel capabilities will be taxed at a higher percentage based on a complex formula. In essence the more megapixel the higher the surtax. After cost of implementation the balance of the remaining funds will be put into a trust that will be distributed to low income residents of California seeking to purchase or upgrade their photography equipment. This will make near or professional quality equipment more available to those underprivileged residents of California. The lower the income the higher the subsidies. This tax will offset some the WB Privilege and help bring the state to a more fair and balanced environment.

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Mar 10, 2019 03:13:57   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
jaycoffman wrote:
If I understand it correctly people in states with sales tax have always been required to pay tax on anything they buy at home and in other states. However, since no one outside of the home state collected other states sales tax for them it was up to the people to declare the purchases and pay the tax. In California there is a formula you can use to estimate your sales tax which is what I use. Many simply ignore the sales tax issue and since no one has collected it the state is out the tax it is owed.

Let's not mix up withholding tax as opposed to the amount of tax you owe and pay--they are two different things although the media did a really poor job of reporting it as to income tax.
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I believe you understand correctly.

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Mar 10, 2019 09:56:35   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Shutterbug57 wrote:
You are missing the point. In most states with a sales tax, the user of the product is legally required to pay a sales or use tax on the product. Retailers make this easier for you by charging it and remitting it to the state, but if you buy from a retailer that does not do so, you are legally required to remit the tax. If your don’t, you are not paying what is required by law, hence a freeloader - in other words, a bum.

This targets honest, hard working slobs, too. Some people don't keep a list of everything they buy out-of-state. As an amateur with a number of hobbies but a pro when it comes to losing receipts, I agree with your point and welcome when out-of-state vendors collect sales tax. I never heard of someone from a non-tax state visiting a state with sales tax and arguing with a sales clerk whether or not he should pay it based on his residence. Does having goods shipped change anything?

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Mar 10, 2019 10:01:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
PatM wrote:
In other news, California has passed new legislation levying a Megapixel surtax on all newly manufactured high end photographic equipment. Beginning in January 2020 Cameras with more than 10 megapixel capabilities will be taxed at a higher percentage based on a complex formula. In essence the more megapixel the higher the surtax. After cost of implementation the balance of the remaining funds will be put into a trust that will be distributed to low income residents of California seeking to purchase or upgrade their photography equipment. This will make near or professional quality equipment more available to those underprivileged residents of California. The lower the income the higher the subsidies. This tax will offset some the WB Privilege and help bring the state to a more fair and balanced environment.
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(Figures.)

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Mar 10, 2019 10:07:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Retina wrote:

..... I never heard of someone from a non-tax state visiting a state with sales tax and arguing with a sales clerk whether or not he should pay it based on his residence.
.....

Some do, albeit a low number.
(I don't as I look at is I've used that state's/country's infrastructure while I was there.)

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Mar 10, 2019 11:00:57   #
MilRic
 
Don't you just love it when people are happy to pay taxes!

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