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Mar 1, 2019 21:32:54   #
tomcat
 
SteveR wrote:
????? Next to the D5, the D500 and D7500 are Nikon's best low light cameras.


Not as people would think. I’ve done a lot of real hands-on field testing and the D3s is much better in low light, as expected compared to the D500. What was more startling though was that the images with the D3s were a whole lot lower in noise than the D5. This is at high ISO values of 10,000 to 20,000 where the D5 was much more noisier. The higher mpxl in the D5 just cannot gather the light like those huge nuclear mpxl in the D3s. Now I will say that the D5 was a joy to shoot: the AF was faster, it tracked better, and the image was brighter BUT it was much noisier. The additional noise really taxed my AI Clear program. I decided not to keep the D5 because of my low light environment needs. I plan to test the D4s as soon as I can get one. So keep in mind that low light and high ISO conditions must be quantitatively defined.

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Mar 1, 2019 21:33:56   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
PHRubin wrote:
I'm surprised you are not keeping the 18-140, it covers the most common range of focal lengths.

There is little advantage to a FX over a DX. It is mostly low light performance.
The advantage of DX is lighter, smaller, less expensive, larger selection of lenses, greater reach and for wide angle, can use wide angle lenses that are not compatible with FX.

Keep in mind, if you consider using the D750 in "DX mode" unless there is some magic I don't know of, you will be cutting out more than 1/2 of the pixels; 1/(1.5*1.5) = 0.44.

Neither landscape nor portrait photography is usually done in lowlight.

It seems for your use the D500 is the better choice.
I'm surprised you are not keeping the 18-140, it c... (show quote)


I was going to give my D7000 away. But I think I will keep it for a back up for now. Therefore, I will keep the DX Lenses.

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Mar 1, 2019 21:50:13   #
racerrich3 Loc: Los Angeles, Ca.
 
GKarl wrote:
I bought a Nikon D7000 in 2011. I am now ready to make another purchase. I have a limited budget and have saved up $1200. I have both DX and FX lenses. My two plans are as follows. All lenses aside from the 24-70 are Nikon.

#1 Buy a refurbished D500 and have the ability to use all my lenses.

#2 Buy a new or refurbished D750 to go along with (50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, 105mm 2.8, Sigma 24-70 2.8, 70-300 4.5-5.6 VR. Give the D7000 along with (35mm 1.8 DX, 18-140 DX to an aspiring photographer).
Thank You.
I bought a Nikon D7000 in 2011. I am now ready to ... (show quote)


If you chose #2 would you really "GIVE" the d7000+lens away. I am looking to move up slowly. i have a D3200. would not mind jumping to a 7xxx series first before anything else. (like a D500) thank you, rich.
ps. like my 18-300 so 18-140 not nessesary but wouldnt mind also. thank you again.

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Mar 1, 2019 21:52:10   #
racerrich3 Loc: Los Angeles, Ca.
 
GKarl wrote:
I was going to give my D7000 away. But I think I will keep it for a back up for now. Therefore, I will keep the DX Lenses.


I only read p.1 before replying and now see what you said next to mine on p.5 , lol. keep me in mind if any changes. ps. didn't read p.2-4. lol

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Mar 1, 2019 21:54:01   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
racerrich3 wrote:
If you chose #2 would you really "GIVE" the d7000+lens away. I am looking to move up slowly. i have a D3200. would not mind jumping to a 7xxx series first before anything else. (like a D500) thank you, rich.
ps. like my 18-300 so 18-140 not nessesary but wouldnt mind also. thank you again.


Sorry. I had a person here in town in mind. However, I may wait.

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Mar 1, 2019 21:56:26   #
Rob909 Loc: Orland, Ca.
 
GKarl wrote:
Would you buy a refurbished again?


I know your question was to scphoto, but I will say I usually buy used or refurbished. Never had a problem. I'm currently looking for a D500. MPB has 4 used, from excellent to like new condition, $1299-$1359. I'm looking at trading some Canon gear for one. I've dealt with MPB before and they are great.

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Mar 1, 2019 23:02:00   #
IR Jim Loc: St. Louis
 
GKarl wrote:
Did you purchase new?


Yes I did.

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Mar 2, 2019 00:06:51   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
GKarl wrote:
Usually not bigger then 8.5X11.


The D500 should be more than sufficient, and, if you compare Nikon specifications, is second only to the D5 in low light capability. Since you are not shooting sports or fast moving birds, etc., you can save some money by going with the D7500. It has the same Expeed 5 processor and low light capability as the D500, but does not have the same fast focal system as the D500, which would not be needed for landscapes and portraits. My daughter has one and also uses it for sports. The D500 was just out of the budget.

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Mar 2, 2019 02:35:19   #
cascom Loc: Redmond
 
You never said what you were planning to photograph. I use a D500 and D750 for sports. Happy with both.

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Mar 2, 2019 06:56:33   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Well the D500 has slightly higher pixel density but not much.


The D500 also shares the same separate focusing system as the $6500.00 D5.

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Mar 2, 2019 09:36:34   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
SteveR wrote:
The D500 should be more than sufficient, and, if you compare Nikon specifications, is second only to the D5 in low light capability. Since you are not shooting sports or fast moving birds, etc., you can save some money by going with the D7500. It has the same Expeed 5 processor and low light capability as the D500, but does not have the same fast focal system as the D500, which would not be needed for landscapes and portraits. My daughter has one and also uses it for sports. The D500 was just out of the budget.
The D500 should be more than sufficient, and, if y... (show quote)


Earlier i stated. I shoot mostly landscape and portraits. Lots of travel photography.

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Mar 2, 2019 09:46:58   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
SteveR wrote:
The D500 should be more than sufficient, and, if you compare Nikon specifications, is second only to the D5 in low light capability. Since you are not shooting sports or fast moving birds, etc., you can save some money by going with the D7500. It has the same Expeed 5 processor and low light capability as the D500, but does not have the same fast focal system as the D500, which would not be needed for landscapes and portraits. My daughter has one and also uses it for sports. The D500 was just out of the budget.
The D500 should be more than sufficient, and, if y... (show quote)


I shoot mostly landscape and portraits. Lots of travel photography.

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Mar 2, 2019 09:48:08   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
GKarl wrote:
Earlier i stated. I shoot mostly landscape and portraits. Lots of travel photography.


One thing I have learned is that as I get more capable photographic equipment, I tend to at least try new 'flavors' of photography. Some of them stick. So I'd suggest not penning yourself in too much as you make your decision.

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Mar 2, 2019 09:49:13   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
GKarl wrote:
Earlier i stated. I shoot mostly landscape and portraits. Lots of travel photography.


Yes, I do remember. That's the basis of my statement. The D7500 would be excellent for you. It's smaller and lighter than the D500 as well. It's an awesome camera.

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Mar 2, 2019 10:05:59   #
cascom Loc: Redmond
 
The D500 is heavy but I believe its viewfinder is brighter. I use the additional battery pack and that with the 80-200 lens gives me a workout. I also have a 300mm 2.8 that I prefer to use on the DX body.

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