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thinking of upgrading to full frame camera. I am a Nikon user
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Feb 24, 2019 15:34:25   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
EastendSteve wrote:
I just bought the D850 after upgrading to FX lenses. I'm thinking that, given the resolution relative to a DX sensor, I'm wondering why I'd ever want to use my 24mp DX camera.

Taking the DX cropping factor (1.5) into account, I figure the D850 with an FX lens gives me more information with a qualitatively superior sensor.

Bottom line: if you have the bucks, go with the D850. If not, go with the D850 anyway and use Nikon's 0% financing.


If I had to choose one, I would keep the 850. Rarely am I concerned with the faster frame rate of the 500. On the other hand, the 500 did everything I needed, but I just simply had to "upgrade" and get a FF. Dumb for me! It's mostly about hype...hogwash!

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Feb 24, 2019 15:52:07   #
bcrawf
 
Bertk wrote:
I have D50 and D90 which pretty much does the job for me. I am interested in macro and bird photography. What is better full frame or crop sensor? Secondly, if full frame, then should I go for D750 or D850.


Lots of related decisions needed, such as what resolution camera you will get, what lenses (you will have to replace your present lenses if they are not for full-frame, of course) and what your net advance would be compared to what you now do photographically. Good luck.

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Feb 24, 2019 15:55:08   #
BebuLamar
 
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
I don't know your budget but I would go for the D750 or eve a used version of it or as Sue mentioned , wait for the D760 and see how that pans out later in the year.

Good luck


The D750 is $1300. I don't think the D760 is an whole lot of an upgrade but I would think the price would be $2300 at introduction.

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Feb 24, 2019 15:56:57   #
tiphareth51 Loc: Somewhere near North Pole, Alaska
 
Upgrading from a crop sensor to a full frame can be very costly. I know as I recently upgraded from a D7100 to a D810. That meant an upgrade in glass as well. The difference between the crop sensor D7100 and the full frame D810 was phenomenal! One is a pro body and the use of pro level glass with it is a winning combination. My bird photos show spectacular detail and are tack sharp. For me, it was a very needed upgrade.

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Feb 24, 2019 16:50:04   #
KiheiVillages
 
D500 is the most superior crop sensor out there. You can keep all your lenses.
300mm zoom will be 400mm. Great for Birding, Surfing photography, and portraits.
If you are a knowledgeable photographer, no one will be able to tell your photos from full frame.
Especially since final output is usually jpeg and posted online, or printed.
One of the main ways of getting good results and exposure, is to have a digital camera that focuses,
exposes, the moment you press the shutter. Especially outdoors in uncontrolled, non studio, setting.
The D500 has the same processor that the D5 has. There usually is NO hesitation ( like an old film camera)
when pressing the shutter. And a superior percent of your exposures are in focus.
The camera as a body/ performance, is superior to the D810. But the D810 has a superior Sensor.
In a controlled environment, the D810 is a marvel.
Now, the D850 has an even larger size sensor than the D810, and has all the advantages,
and more, than the D500 crop sensor body. And you can set as a crop sensor to give your
birding lenses, that extra reach. If you can afford, D850 seems to be the TOPS.
I just made the decision to stick to crop sensor, because of the advantages of the D500,
at the time it came out. The D500 gave pro photographers a solid choice, not to have to go full frame.

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Feb 24, 2019 17:12:34   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Welcome to UHH!

It seems to me you are going in the wrong direction. For birds and macro work a DX should give you more reach or size of subject than FX. Furthermore, the are many lenses available desighned for DX only that don't perform well on an FX body, even in "DX mode" where you lose so many pixels.

If there is something you think the heavier, more expensive FX can do for you, let us know. I don't see it.

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Feb 24, 2019 17:15:23   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
Just to add my experience. I recently upgraded to full frame so that I could enjoy greater resolution. I found that the added weight of the full frame lenses, and the performance was not what I had anticipated. I stayed in the same family of cameras, but I am sure now that APS-C, and micro 4/3s are where I belong. I am in the process of trading away my full frame kits, and I think it is folly to think that the size of the sensor will make that much difference to you. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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Feb 24, 2019 17:19:11   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Bertk wrote:
I have D50 and D90 which pretty much does the job for me. I am interested in macro and bird photography. What is better full frame or crop sensor? Secondly, if full frame, then should I go for D750 or D850.

The D850 has more pixels, meaning it has better resolution capability. Regardless of whether you are photographing a large or tiny subject, resolution is wonderful to have. So if that is important to you, the D850 is the right camera!

Equally important are the lenses you use with the camera. High quality lenses are required to get the best results because a lesser lens will limit how well the camera can produce an image! For macro, you will use a macro lens, usually the 105mm, although you could go longer. For birds, you will need a long lens, either a long zoom such as the 200-500mm or a long prime. But anything beyond the 300mm f/4 has a huge price tag!

When making the decision, just keep in mind that camera and lens are interdependent. Lesser quality of either one can limit the other.

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Feb 24, 2019 17:34:17   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
azted wrote:
Just to add my experience. I recently upgraded to full frame so that I could enjoy greater resolution. I found that the added weight of the full frame lenses, and the performance was not what I had anticipated. I stayed in the same family of cameras, but I am sure now that APS-C, and micro 4/3s are where I belong. I am in the process of trading away my full frame kits, and I think it is folly to think that the size of the sensor will make that much difference to you. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Just to add my experience. I recently upgraded to ... (show quote)


Until you get to the resolving power of the lens, more detail is accomlished with more pixels, not sensor size. For the same # of pixels and technology, a FF has larger pixels for better light collection and is more sensitive.

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Feb 24, 2019 18:36:41   #
k2edm Loc: FN32AD
 
I HAVE GOne thru many upgrades thru the years (1949 to present) from a brownie reflex to cANON 5 MRK WITH "L" lenses and looking back if I had to do it over I would not upgrade more often then every ten years, if then...

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Feb 24, 2019 20:39:12   #
boba_from_pa
 
Wow. I don’t know what I am most impressed with. The fact that you have both those cameras, or that you have been a Nikon user for over 70 years, or those titles behind your name Awesome that you are still going strong

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Feb 24, 2019 20:44:14   #
Steve411
 
Bertk wrote:
I have D50 and D90 which pretty much does the job for me. I am interested in macro and bird photography. What is better full frame or crop sensor? Secondly, if full frame, then should I go for D750 or D850.


Birds, go with the Nikon P900 ( up to 2000mm ) or P1000 both much cheaper than a long lens and just fine for daylight. Macro.. iPhone 8 with a little editing. Eagle pic below is 1/20th of P900 frame.. Moon medium P900 zoom and full 2000mm zoom (hand held).. full unedited frames are shown..

I have a D750 for high school BB games.. amazing for using fractions of the image. Now has 16,000+ exposures.. When will it die? Good shopping

Steve411











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Feb 24, 2019 20:45:19   #
boba_from_pa
 
Lloyd LeZotte wrote:
I have a NIKON 850 and more recently acquired a Z7 ... both are excellent ... the mirrorless is indeed much lighter ... I have been a NIKON user for over 70 years, myself ... their lenses are unique. I have acquired the adapter so I can take advanatge of all my "F-mount" lenses.

Best luck.

Lloyd A. LeZotte, M.D., Ph.D.
Photographer & Scholar

lalezo@gmail.com


Wow. I don’t know what I am most impressed with. The fact that you have both those cameras, or that you have been a Nikon user for over 70 years, or those titles behind your name

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Feb 24, 2019 22:15:26   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
DaveO wrote:
On the other hand, the 500 did everything I needed. It's mostly about hype...hogwash!


Then why did you encourage me to get the D850 when I already had a D500?





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Feb 24, 2019 22:30:51   #
ecurb1105
 
Bertk wrote:
I have D50 and D90 which pretty much does the job for me. I am interested in macro and bird photography. What is better full frame or crop sensor? Secondly, if full frame, then should I go for D750 or D850.


D7200 or D7500.

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