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"Mars" TV
Feb 19, 2019 07:44:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I just finished watching the brief TV series "Mars." Very good. I guess you'd call it a docudrama. It switches back and forth between real events and interviews in 2016 and the flight to start a colony on Mars in 2033. Netflix

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Feb 19, 2019 08:23:36   #
ELNikkor
 
Sorry, no colony on Mars in 2033. (Easier to build a colony on the moon or under the sea.)

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Feb 19, 2019 08:23:43   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
Oh great, now you tell me. I watched it when it was on TV several years ago and I had to record it so I could fast forward through the commercials.

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Feb 19, 2019 09:44:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
Oh great, now you tell me. I watched it when it was on TV several years ago and I had to record it so I could fast forward through the commercials.


I see there is a second season available on Prime, but I don't know if it's free or not.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4939064/

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Feb 20, 2019 12:22:15   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I see there is a second season available on Prime, but I don't know if it's free or not.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4939064/
I looked it up and it's $2.99/episode or $14.99/season and that's with an Amazon Prime account, which I have. I guess I made out when I DVR'd it.

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Feb 20, 2019 13:21:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
EdJ0307 wrote:
I looked it up and it's $2.99/episode or $14.99/season and that's with an Amazon Prime account, which I have. I guess I made out when I DVR'd it.


That's one thing that annoys me about Prime - many of the movies are not free. They should have Prime section and a subscription section. I'll wait for it to come on Netflix.

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Feb 20, 2019 13:26:11   #
patman1 Loc: Pataskala, Ohio
 
They do have Prime section.

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Feb 20, 2019 20:07:24   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Sorry, no colony on Mars in 2033. (Easier to build a colony on the moon or under the sea.)


You should tell that to Elon Musk. He'll take it as a challenge... (Oh, wait, he's already working on it!)

If some one person with the means doesn't make it their BHAG (big, hairy-assed goal), it'll never get done! Just trying to do it will push the envelope and make it happen sooner.

There are significant challenges of radiation, food, water, power, shelter, heat, rocket fuel, and mental health. But it will happen. We went to the moon in less than a decade, on less computing power than each of us carries around in our phones. This is 2019. Engineering happens one heck of a lot quicker now, and we know a lot more now, and we are more creative now.

The potential to mine asteroids for exotic elements is likely huge.

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Feb 21, 2019 06:15:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
patman1 wrote:
They do have Prime section.


But they're not all free with Amazon Prime.

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Feb 21, 2019 06:19:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ELNikkor wrote:
Sorry, no colony on Mars in 2033. (Easier to build a colony on the moon or under the sea.)


Apparently, 2033 will be the best time to launch a ship to Mars. That's why they set it in that year.

Werner Von Braun's goal was always Mars. When Apollo 13 had a problem, Nixon cut funding, and Mars was out of the question, so Von Braun quite NASA and retired. Instead, the reduced budget was spent on fifty years of space shuttle launches.

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Feb 21, 2019 08:26:30   #
DavidPhares Loc: Chandler, Arizona
 
Why would anyone want to live on Mars? It has been reported there are no trout streams! ❤️🐟

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Feb 21, 2019 11:23:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DavidPhares wrote:
Why would anyone want to live on Mars? It has been reported there are no trout streams! ❤️🐟


Whatever floats your [fishing] boat or fills your wading boots is fine with me... Some people would sooner watch paint dry or flies on a cow pie than fish. Life's all about temperament and interests.

I wouldn't go to Mars unless I could get there in three days and come back whenever I wanted. But I'd love the journey, and I'm sure the barren landscape would be fascinating.

That said, I know some adventurous scientists would give up their lives just to see it, and to prove we could get there.

If we don't blow ourselves to bits, I believe we will colonize the solar system and travel the galaxy some day, perhaps hundreds of years in the future. Time and again, we have discovered principles of physics that we never thought were possible. The people who will figure out practical space travel are the ones who don't know it can't be done. They look at problems in a different way, and that makes all the difference.

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Feb 22, 2019 10:32:08   #
pendennis
 
Lots of hurdles to overcome, even on the voyage. No one has figured out what to do about solar flares and the solar wind effects. What about penetration of the ship's hull by hyper-velocity particles?

After landing, how do humans protect themselves against the solar wind? Mars has no magnetic field, and that's what protects earth from the solar wind.

Not saying that some of these hurdles can't be overcome. However, these aren't computer systems problems overcome by application of Moore's Law. These are physical problems which mankind has no practical experience in solving.

Being only 250K +/- miles from earth, it seems the moon is a much better laboratory to solve these problems.

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Feb 22, 2019 21:49:46   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
burkphoto wrote:
Whatever floats your [fishing] boat or fills your wading boots is fine with me... Some people would sooner watch paint dry or flies on a cow pie than fish. Life's all about temperament and interests.

I wouldn't go to Mars unless I could get there in three days and come back whenever I wanted. But I'd love the journey, and I'm sure the barren landscape would be fascinating.

That said, I know some adventurous scientists would give up their lives just to see it, and to prove we could get there.

If we don't blow ourselves to bits, I believe we will colonize the solar system and travel the galaxy some day, perhaps hundreds of years in the future. Time and again, we have discovered principles of physics that we never thought were possible. The people who will figure out practical space travel are the ones who don't know it can't be done. They look at problems in a different way, and that makes all the difference.
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