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Feb 14, 2019 16:46:42   #
wooden_ships
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Why does Trumps trivial lies bother you so much? Does his lies effect your way of living from day to day, does his lies take food off your table, does it effect your income? Really? He has this much control over your daily life? lol I am less concerned about Trumps stupid petty lies, which there are many of, then I am about real life policies that actually have some tangible effect on me. So far, I am pleased on the work he is doing for ALL of us.


Trivial lies? Are you serious???

BTW you called me a liar about illegal crossing decreasing.... you said it was up 200%

Read this - the government says it's down. Per the US Department of Homeland Security, U .S. Customs and Border Protection report of Feb 8, 2019:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration/ofo-sw-border-inadmissibles

I'm done with you....

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Feb 14, 2019 16:52:45   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Why does Trumps trivial lies bother you so much? Does his lies effect your way of living from day to day, does his lies take food off your table, does it effect your income? Really? He has this much control over your daily life? lol I am less concerned about Trumps stupid petty lies, which there are many of, then I am about real life policies that actually have some tangible effect on me. So far, I am pleased on the work he is doing for ALL of us.



"Why does Trumps trivial lies bother you so much?" Eyesore

Mate, You Beggar Belief!! Funnily enough, that's the white trash preacher position as well.

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Feb 14, 2019 16:56:43   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
LWW wrote:
Next time Vince is around I’ll let you know you admire his beauty.

My plan is to get leftists to expose their true self, and yes it’s working fine.

Continue.


I've seen his wife. If I were you I'd be more discrete.

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Feb 14, 2019 17:04:56   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
wooden_ships wrote:
So, you're okay with lying.... so why do you persist in calling others "lying liars" as a pejorative?


Stop lying.

I never said that,

That being said, humans lie.

Severity is the key.

You see lies as relative on a solely partisan basis.

Obama lies and it beat me out of $20K.

Billy Jeff lies and it put the country through Hell.

JFK lies and we almost have a thermonuclear war.

Yet none of those bothered the left, but they hold Trump to the standard of perfection.

Can you honestly not see the insanity there?

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Feb 14, 2019 17:09:56   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Why does Trumps trivial lies bother you so much? Does his lies effect your way of living from day to day, does his lies take food off your table, does it effect your income? Really? He has this much control over your daily life? lol I am less concerned about Trumps stupid petty lies, which there are many of, then I am about real life policies that actually have some tangible effect on me. So far, I am pleased on the work he is doing for ALL of us.


This is the part most Americans and the world can't fathom. Tex


"So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

"This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid." Nate White

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Feb 14, 2019 18:13:40   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Frank T wrote:
Worth the time to read it:

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Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind.

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.

I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

'My God… what… have… I… created?

If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
Worth the time to read it: br br Image may conta... (show quote)


Biased,uppty,bigoted... sounds just like you frankty.

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Feb 14, 2019 20:27:34   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
yhtomit wrote:
Biased,uppty,bigoted... sounds just like you frankty.


Gee Vomit, hope I didn't upset your delicate sensibilities.

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Feb 14, 2019 22:37:00   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
Frank T wrote:
Gee Vomit, hope I didn't upset your delicate sensibilities.


You’ll never move this mountain.

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Feb 14, 2019 23:46:20   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Texcaster wrote:
"For instance, he (Babylon) has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed." Nate White,


Makes you wonder how he really feels.

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Feb 15, 2019 02:49:18   #
EyeSawYou
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trivial lies? Are you serious???

BTW you called me a liar about illegal crossing decreasing.... you said it was up 200%

Read this - the government says it's down. Per the US Department of Homeland Security, U .S. Customs and Border Protection report of Feb 8, 2019:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration/ofo-sw-border-inadmissibles

I'm done with you....


You are lying once again, illegal border crossing is 200% increase from 2017 to 2018.

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Feb 15, 2019 03:20:40   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
thom w wrote:
Makes you wonder how he really feels.


I'm surprised he overlooked the table manners and the personal hygiene.

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Feb 15, 2019 03:34:48   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
yhtomit wrote:
You’ll never move this mountain.


Not even a 5th Ave shooting spree?

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Feb 15, 2019 07:08:43   #
wooden_ships
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You are lying once again, illegal border crossing is 200% increase from 2017 to 2018.


Look at it again and try to comprehend. Illegal crossings are down per the government report 2/8/19.

Get back on point; why is it now a national crisis when numbers are decreasing? Why didn’t he act when owned Congress?

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Feb 15, 2019 07:21:05   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Look at it again and try to comprehend. Illegal crossings are down per the government report 2/8/19.

Get back on point; why is it now a national crisis when numbers are decreasing? Why didn’t he act when owned Congress?


Because he did compromise in the 2018 budget showdown and swore it was the last time.

Can you believe the audacity of a politician doing what they said they would do!!!!

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Feb 15, 2019 07:47:07   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
wooden_ships wrote:
Trivial lies? Are you serious???

BTW you called me a liar about illegal crossing decreasing.... you said it was up 200%

Read this - the government says it's down. Per the US Department of Homeland Security, U .S. Customs and Border Protection report of Feb 8, 2019:

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration/ofo-sw-border-inadmissibles

I'm done with you....


That is just the ones turned away, the border patrol says that between 20 to 50% make an undetected entry.

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