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Feb 7, 2019 07:15:16   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Great advice!!!
CHG_CANON wrote:
Hey Greg, welcome aboard! If you have a big box location nearby, go down to their camera department and handle any of the options you're considering. The 'insides' of all these models are relatively the same with slightly more or less advanced features. The SL2 is unique in its small size. You can't go wrong with any of the choices, where the D5600 is a slightly more advanced configuration above the other three.

Regarding wildlife lenses, what do you consider your budget? What you can spend is typically the determining characteristic. If you go with a new body and a kit with two lenses, the 2nd lens with either Canon and Nikon will typically be the lens you'll want to replace for wildlife and / or sports. The 70-300 will be the most basic model from either company included in their entry-level kits.

You might want to consider used models where you can buy much more camera for the same or lower prices as compared to new. Also, you can purchase the lens(es) that fit your exact needs other than what comes in the kit. Have a look at the prices when handling your options at the bigbox. Look at a used reseller like KEH.com and compare the cameras you can buy at EX ratings for the same price. Use any money saved for a lens, also used, for a longer lens in the 400mm range for your Yellowstone trip.
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Feb 7, 2019 07:17:59   #
kschwegl Loc: Orangeburg, NY
 
If you like Canon, go for a Canon. I'm a Nikon shooter, so I'd suggest the Canon equivalent of a Nikon D3500.

Ken S.

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Feb 7, 2019 07:34:49   #
E4Mafia Loc: Knoxville, TN
 
Canon. By far. Bc they have a cornucopia of lenses to chose from.

Please remember that by using a cropped sensor camera you lose (or gain) some distance though.

For example: a 35mm lense on a cropped sensor is really a 52mm lense. Or a 20 mm lense is really a 30mm.
But, a 300 mm lense is really 450mm so instead of losing, you gain free distance.
To figure it out just do some simple math.
-canon: (any mm)×1.5
-nikon: (any mm)×1.6

I suggest to purchase a used FF camera and save yourself the hassle of spending extra on a small mm lens to get the one you want. I.E. 20mm lense cost roughly $700usd. And thats to get close to a 35mm look.
Also note that sensors do not give you the pixal count that the manufacturer states. No matter the sensor size. Lenses just block too much light. Thats why everyone says that the lense matters most with a camera. The better the lense, the more light it lets in. So stay away from kit lenses. Youll see the difference yourself if you really want to. Just compare a kit with a good quality lense.

Btw, welcome to the club.

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Feb 7, 2019 07:44:04   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
RedPachyderm wrote:
Hello! I am new to the forum and have a question. Trying to decide on a entry level DSLR and have always had great luck with Canon cameras. But I am open to any.
I am trying to decide between the Canon SL2 and T7i, or the Nikon D3500 or D5600. Any opinions on these?
Is the T7i worth another $150~ over the SL2? Is the touchscreen function on some of the cameras mentioned useful, deal-breaker, etc?
Also, planning a trip to Yellowstone this year and wondered about lens choices as well.
Thanks for any advice/opinions!!
Greg
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Your canon T7i will serve you long and well! Don’t let anyone here steer you to spending anymore.

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Feb 7, 2019 08:19:27   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I would go with the d5600. Aside from the fully articulated screen, which is a huge help when composing your images, it gives you some room to grow into the added functionalities it offers. F y I, I was a Nikon shooter for years.

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Feb 7, 2019 08:36:03   #
TSHDGTL
 
This will be controversial but I'm speaking from experience. I went from the Canon Rebel series to the Sony DSLT's. The evf and full time live view made going back impossible. The Sony A68 is $600 body only and has evf, ibis, mfa, 79 point pdaf, both face and eye detect af, and can mount Minolta a-mount lenses natively. The 70-210 f4.0 "Beercan" lens can be had for around $110 and the 50 f1.7 around $50. I would opt for the kit lens bundle to get cheap 18mm wide angle for landscapes too.

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Feb 7, 2019 08:46:36   #
micyclebicycle
 
Nikon D3500. I got one, and it is super light and 25mp. Love it. It’s the perfect grab and go mate for my D850

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Feb 7, 2019 08:51:13   #
dyximan
 
RedPachyderm wrote:
Hello! I am new to the forum and have a question. Trying to decide on a entry level DSLR and have always had great luck with Canon cameras. But I am open to any.
I am trying to decide between the Canon SL2 and T7i, or the Nikon D3500 or D5600. Any opinions on these?
Is the T7i worth another $150~ over the SL2? Is the touchscreen function on some of the cameras mentioned useful, deal-breaker, etc?
Also, planning a trip to Yellowstone this year and wondered about lens choices as well.
Thanks for any advice/opinions!!
Greg
Hello! I am new to the forum and have a question. ... (show quote)


Greg my suggestion to you would be to rent a couple of cameras from a reputable store or someone like borrow lenses. And see how they feel in your hands. And how they Function ergonomically, And as stated previously if you’ve used canon in the past go with that, But don’t be afraid to step outside the box a bit. As I think you’ll find most of the entry levels are quite similar in image quality. It now becomes a matter of choice to feel price Etc. As someone suggested to me when I first started do you like Ford, Chevy, or Dodge, they all do about the same, in about the same manner but what works and feels best for you Your hands and your circumstances. Best of luck enjoy your experience here, Yellowstone and elsewhere. And welcome to the forum

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Feb 7, 2019 09:11:14   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Ans. to 1. If you purchase a more advanced camera and find you just aren't liking photography as much as you thought, you can always sell the camera. Though used, it would still bring a higher percentage of the amount paid initially.

Ans. to 2. GAS is some folks unsolvable problem. That's not a camera issue that's a user issue.
--Bob
User ID wrote:
If I were a digital era noob, and were asked that
question, I'd answer that there's 2 reasons there.

1. Maybe I'll not stay involved in "photography".
Maybe it's a passing thing.

2. If I buy a more advanced model right away,
by the time I'm a more advanced user [guessing
about 3 yrs] my "more advanced" camera won't
seem all that advanced anymore compared to
the future's newer models :-(

.

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Feb 7, 2019 09:30:29   #
BebuLamar
 
I would like to chime in a bit of my opinions.
First I assume that the OP doesn't have a DSLR and thus looking for entry level one. Second I am not a fan of the mirrorless but I think for someone who has neither the mirrorless should be in consideration.

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Feb 7, 2019 09:30:55   #
awis01
 
Welcome to the forum. I go to Yellowstone every few years. I am a Nikon shooter so I am biased toward their products. It's tough to recommend a lens without knowing your budget. You definitely need something with good reach for wildlife. The Nikkor 200-500 would give you that especially with a crop sensor camera. Something wider for Landscape. I have been shooting with the Nikkor 18 to 200 with very good results. Enjoy your trip. Yellowstone is a magical place.

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Feb 7, 2019 09:39:18   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Hey Greg, welcome aboard! If you have a big box location nearby, go down to their camera department and handle any of the options you're considering. The 'insides' of all these models are relatively the same with slightly more or less advanced features. The SL2 is unique in its small size. You can't go wrong with any of the choices, where the D5600 is a slightly more advanced configuration above the other three.

Regarding wildlife lenses, what do you consider your budget? What you can spend is typically the determining characteristic. If you go with a new body and a kit with two lenses, the 2nd lens with either Canon and Nikon will typically be the lens you'll want to replace for wildlife and / or sports. The 70-300 will be the most basic model from either company included in their entry-level kits.

You might want to consider used models where you can buy much more camera for the same or lower prices as compared to new. Also, you can purchase the lens(es) that fit your exact needs other than what comes in the kit. Have a look at the prices when handling your options at the bigbox. Look at a used reseller like KEH.com and compare the cameras you can buy at EX ratings for the same price. Use any money saved for a lens, also used, for a longer lens in the 400mm range for your Yellowstone trip.
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I agree with this overall, just wish to add the option of factory refurbished equipment.

As far as what brand, they will all give you excellent results. While at the store try them in your hands, see how they feel. First though (I just thought of this ) check on line for articles on how to properly hold a camera for best stability. No sense seeing how different cameras feel in your hands if you haven't yet learned how to hold one.

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Feb 7, 2019 09:42:10   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Just buy the gear you can afford and be patient and research the models you like....ON Line.....download their manuals if you can and be familiar with its' capabilities. If you can find a Good used Item at one of the great dealers , do it . They all sell well maintained equipment and often ship for free. B&H,Adorama, Cameta, KEH all have very safe and reasonable offerings that will spark your interests and don't rush the process. Do your homework and don't rely on the opinions of others. It's YOUR money and your choice so make the journey worth your time and efforts.

Jimbo

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Feb 7, 2019 09:42:54   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
I love my77d

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Feb 7, 2019 09:53:43   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
RedPachyderm wrote:
Hello! I am new to the forum and have a question. Trying to decide on a entry level DSLR and have always had great luck with Canon cameras. But I am open to any.
I am trying to decide between the Canon SL2 and T7i, or the Nikon D3500 or D5600. Any opinions on these?
Is the T7i worth another $150~ over the SL2? Is the touchscreen function on some of the cameras mentioned useful, deal-breaker, etc?
Also, planning a trip to Yellowstone this year and wondered about lens choices as well.
Thanks for any advice/opinions!!
Greg
Hello! I am new to the forum and have a question. ... (show quote)


Greg, welcome to the forum. If you are familiar with Canon and had good experience with that brand in the past, you may want to look there first. Visit a camera store to see what fits your hands the best, how heavy the body is and then consider what the end use of your camera will be. For years, I have purchased factory refurbished bodies and lenses at great savings, and these all come with a warranty. If you can swing it, the t7i or D5600 will have more advanced features which you can grow into, but only you will be able to determine whether or not your actual needs determine the extra expense. Good luck.

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