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Feb 1, 2019 20:14:31   #
SteveS Loc: The US is my home.
 
thom w wrote:
Soba, are you really in favor of more women, black or white, but I believe you are more concerned with black, being saddled with children they aren't prepared to raise, that will probably keep them in the ghetto for the rest of their life? Do you believe there are salespeople from planned parenthood out there convincing black women, and little girls to have abortions? Why do you care about the ratio of blacks to whites? Don't more poor black uneducated people pose the same problem for your people that undocumented Mexicans do. They will keep labor rates down. If you want to convince more black families that can afford more children and will be able to educate them to have more babies. Go for it. I'm not convinced we need more babies, black or white, but at least promote births that have a chance to grow up and really compete. Abortion clinics provide a needed safety valve. They don't go out looking for customers. If you find someone promoting white births and promoting abortions for black women, scream like hell, but that just isn't the situation.
Soba, are you really in favor of more women, black... (show quote)


Sounds like you would prefer to sterilize those that are not up to your standards for childbirth. You know "Those that don't have a chance to grow up and compete." My question is how do you know they don't have a chance unless they are allowed the opportunity to at least try? There are millions of people that grew up extremely poor, raised in single parent household, etc., that are some of the most successful people in the world. The doctor or scientist that may have found a cancer cure could have already been aborted because of people with your thought process.

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Feb 1, 2019 20:30:04   #
jcboy3
 
SteveS wrote:
Sounds like you would prefer to sterilize those that are not up to your standards for childbirth. You know "Those that don't have a chance to grow up and compete." My question is how do you know they don't have a chance unless they are allowed the opportunity to at least try? There are millions of people that grew up extremely poor, raised in single parent household, etc., that are some of the most successful people in the world. The doctor or scientist that may have found a cancer cure could have already been aborted because of people with your thought process.
Sounds like you would prefer to sterilize those th... (show quote)


The same could be said for those that use contraception or masturbate. Which is why some religions oppose those as well.

"Missed opportunity" is not a valid argument for limiting a persons' (and I do mean person, not fetus) rights.

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Feb 1, 2019 20:39:17   #
SteveS Loc: The US is my home.
 
jcboy3 wrote:
The same could be said for those that use contraception or masturbate. Which is why some religions oppose those as well.

"Missed opportunity" is not a valid argument for limiting a persons' (and I do mean person, not fetus) rights.



No matter how long that sperm is trapped in a condom, or not introduced to an egg, will it ever have a heart beat.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:01:37   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
jcboy3 wrote:
The same could be said for those that use contraception or masturbate. Which is why some religions oppose those as well.

"Missed opportunity" is not a valid argument for limiting a persons' (and I do mean person, not fetus) rights.


That’s a serious stretch.
I’m sure you can do better than that.
There isn’t a heart in semen

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Feb 1, 2019 21:14:58   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
JC and Thom did this thread strike a chord

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Feb 1, 2019 21:16:43   #
jcboy3
 
soba1 wrote:
That’s a serious stretch.
I’m sure you can do better than that.
There isn’t a heart in semen


There is a potential heart, and the whole argument is to deny someone their rights over a potential.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:20:29   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveS wrote:
Sounds like you would prefer to sterilize those that are not up to your standards for childbirth. You know "Those that don't have a chance to grow up and compete." My question is how do you know they don't have a chance unless they are allowed the opportunity to at least try? There are millions of people that grew up extremely poor, raised in single parent household, etc., that are some of the most successful people in the world. The doctor or scientist that may have found a cancer cure could have already been aborted because of people with your thought process.
Sounds like you would prefer to sterilize those th... (show quote)


I don't want to force anything on anybody. I wouldn't expect you to respect women enough to allow them to control their own bodies. It would be way out of character.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:22:39   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
jcboy3 wrote:
There is a potential heart, and the whole argument is to deny someone their rights over a potential.


Ummmm .... no, it isn’t.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:24:42   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
thom w wrote:
I don't want to force anything on anybody. I wouldn't expect you to respect women enough to allow them to control their own bodies. It would be way out of character.


So if a woman wants to control their body by jamming a pair of scissors through your brain you'd see it as OK.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:25:30   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveS wrote:
No matter how long that sperm is trapped in a condom, or not introduced to an egg, will it ever have a heart beat.


The sperm and egg are both alive, and by trapping them or distributing them somewhere where they will never meet you ensure that they will die. Life doesn't begin at conception. Life already exists before conception. A person doesn't immediately exist at conception. Whether a person exists at any time before birth can be argued but it sure doesn't at conception.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:27:01   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
thom w wrote:
The sperm and egg are both alive, and by trapping them or distributing them somewhere where they will never meet you ensure that they will die. Life doesn't begin at conception. Life already exists before conception. A person doesn't immediately exist at conception. Whether a person exists at any time before birth can be argued but it sure doesn't at conception.


Pure jibba jabba.

A sperm nor an egg will ever become a person.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:28:13   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
LWW wrote:
So if a woman wants to control their body by jamming a pair of scissors through your brain you'd see it as OK.


You're pretty sick. I'm going to evaluate whether I will respond to any future posts of yours. By the way, at conception there is no brain to jam a pair of scissors into. I think you have problems to the point you may be dangerous.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:33:28   #
jcboy3
 
LWW wrote:
So if a woman wants to control their body by jamming a pair of scissors through your brain you'd see it as OK.


Unless your head is up her ass, I would say no to the scissors to the brain.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:47:25   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
thom w wrote:
You're pretty sick. I'm going to evaluate whether I will respond to any future posts of yours. By the way, at conception there is no brain to jam a pair of scissors into. I think you have problems to the point you may be dangerous.


But you support jamming a pair of scissors through an unborn’s brain.

I think I’ve finally held the mirror in a bright enough light for you to see your inner self, that you don’t like what you see is your problem. If you choose to hide from that reflection that is your choice.

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Feb 1, 2019 21:59:20   #
Vietnam Vet
 
Soba, I can't believe how these guys are supporting Sanger and her agenda.

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